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NotLiquid · Dec 30, 2015

If you told me a year ago when Splatoon was unveiled that it would have some of the most insane legs and break a million in this short time period I would have probably called you insane. I'm so happy the game has done so well. Wii U on track for that 3 million next week. Well done Nintendo.

#FE flopping a bit is a let down but I don't imagine it was released on the best console for the kind of game it is. Nonetheless I imagine Nintendo overall are enjoying this Winter period.

FluxWaveZ · Dec 30, 2015

kuroneko0509 said:
what original idea? you mean the stuff that fans think of the original idea which isn't true? lol

shadow2810 said:
I think I missed something. What was the original idea?

udivision said:
Do we know that wasn't the original idea?

Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

GhostTrick · Dec 30, 2015

udivision said:
Do we know that wasn't the original idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

Kinda this.

Tadaima · Dec 30, 2015

It's interesting seeing mobile games such as Monster Strike doing so well as full-price retail titles on dedicated platforms. What does this say about the perception of dedicated platforms and their full-price titles among the casual audience?

JonnyDBrit · Dec 30, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

...So yeah, they had the obvious gimmick, but for some reason didn't want to use it. I guess at some point they decided their ideas would work better with a bunch of OG characters?

TraBuch · Dec 30, 2015

I had zero idea SMT x FE was even close to release. How's it reviewing?

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2015

1*: [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.800) - 2.146.467 / 4.502.846
2*: [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 1.875.115 / 3.556.119 <94,10%>
3*: [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 1.617.949 / 2.569.489 <80-100%>
4*: [3DS] Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥6.264) - 1.542.104 / 2.441.977 <80-100%>

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |    1*    |    1*    |    2*    |    2*    |    3*    |    3*    |    4*    |    4*    |
|Wk|2010.12.01|2010.12.01|2013.09.14|2013.09.14|2014.10.11|2014.10.11|2015.11.28|2015.11.28|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2011.04.17|2011.04.17|2014.01.26|2014.01.26|2015.02.22|2015.02.22|2016.04.10|2016.04.10|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1| 2.146.467| 2.146.467| 1.875.115| 1.875.115| 1.617.949| 1.617.949| 1.542.104| 1.542.104|
| 2|   514.198| 2.660.665|   432.286| 2.307.401|   260.485| 1.878.434|   374.682| 1.916.786|
| 3|   434.837| 3.095.502|   234.713| 2.542.114|   148.020| 2.026.454|   191.324| 2.108.110|
| 4|   385.487| 3.480.989|   164.593| 2.706.707|    89.364| 2.115.818|   159.806| 2.267.916|
| 5|   317.471| 3.798.460|   111.230| 2.817.937|    50.841| 2.166.659|   174.061| 2.441.977|
| 6|   155.839| 3.954.299|    97.336| 2.915.273|    33.770| 2.200.429|          |          |
| 7|    80.703| 4.035.002|    60.206| 2.975.479|    27.347| 2.227.776|          |          |
| 8|    56.450| 4.091.452|    47.393| 3.022.872|    27.001| 2.254.777|          |          |
| 9|    39.453| 4.130.905|    39.167| 3.062.039|    20.564| 2.275.341|          |          |
|10|    32.655| 4.163.560|    32.813| 3.094.852|    25.181| 2.300.522|          |          |
|11|   104.900| 4.268.460|    24.684| 3.119.536|    34.184| 2.334.706|          |          |
|12|    26.865| 4.295.325|    25.756| 3.145.292|    46.471| 2.381.177|          |          |
|13|    20.594| 4.315.919|    25.743| 3.171.035|    44.349| 2.425.526|          |          |
|14|    16.912| 4.332.831|    35.660| 3.206.695|    21.498| 2.447.024|          |          |
|15|    13.891| 4.346.722|    46.279| 3.252.974|    14.603| 2.461.627|          |          |
|16|    11.924| 4.358.646|    40.338| 3.293.312|    11.345| 2.472.972|          |          |
|17|    13.536| 4.372.182|    48.622| 3.341.934|     9.044| 2.482.016|          |          |
|18|    12.946| 4.385.128|    19.133| 3.361.067|     8.081| 2.490.097|          |          |
|19|     9.589| 4.394.717|    12.713| 3.373.780|     7.204| 2.497.301|          |          |
|20|     6.246| 4.400.963|     9.224| 3.383.004|     5.902| 2.503.203|          |          |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

NotLiquid · Dec 30, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

At the same time didn't he also say in an interview around the reveal time that the idea of the crossover in general spawned from envisioning the combination of FE with a contemporary setting, likening it to a Pegasus swooping down the Shibuya districts or some such (which explicitly happens in the trailers)? Whatever the original concepts were I don't think anything stuck for very long since we already had some idea from back then how the game was going to eventually end up.

KooopaKid · Dec 30, 2015

Splatoon is the GOTG so far in Japan.

TheMoon · Dec 30, 2015

ZoddGutts said:
Dem #FE sales. That's what what happens when you make a Vita game not for the Vita. Seriously Atlus could've made this game easily without Fire Emblem franchise involve instead had Persona characters in it and it would've sold more than 3 times as much on the Vita. Not sure what Atlus was thinking. Persona 4 Dancing all Night sold 94K in it's first week in comparison.

DNAbro said:
I'm pretty sure Nintendo helped out with it.

The pitch for this "crossover" game came from Nintendo.

kuroneko0509 · Dec 30, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

oh thanks... geez i wonder why i always missed some important piece of info lately >.>
wait.. wasn't the original stuff is that photo-app thing? unless i'm confusing it with some other thing

noobie · Dec 30, 2015

Chris1964 said:
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2015 (Dec 21 - Dec 27)

01./01. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi) {2015.12.17} (¥4.860) - 211.441 / 636.709 <60-80%> (-50%)
02./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥6.264) - 174.061 / 2.441.977 <80-100%> (+9%)
03./04. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.968) - 104.670 / 1.965.202 <80-100%> (+6%)
04./06. [WIU] Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 98.096 / 1.064.897 <80-100%> (+27%)
05./05. [WIU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥6.156) - 97.281 / 674.194 <80-100%> (+20%)
06./00. [PSV] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs-Force <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.12.23} (¥7.344) - 69.985 / NEW <40-60%>
07./08. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.07.30} (¥4.320) - 60.393 / 1.282.880 <80-100%> (+48%)
08./09. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.03} (¥5.076) - 55.583 / 174.674 <60-80%> (+43%)
09./12. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.592) - 47.249 / 478.478 <80-100%> (+74%)
10./10. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.06.11} (¥5.076) - 46.645 / 607.343 <80-100%> (+36%)
11./07. [3DS] Disney Magic World 2 # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.05} (¥6.145) - 44.355 / 247.617 <80-100%> (+2%)
12./03. [PS4] Fallout 4 # <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2015.12.17} (¥8.618) - 28.268 / 149.367 <80-100%> (-77%)
13./00. [WIU] Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.26} (¥7.236) - 23.806 / NEW <40-60%>
14./00. [3DS] Medarot 9: Kabuto Ver. / Kuwagata Ver. <RPG> (Rocket Company) {2015.12.24} (¥6.264) - 21.735 / NEW <40-60%>
15./14. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Omise Hajimerundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2015.11.19} (¥5.184) - 19.944 / 80.617 <80-100%> (-7%)
16./22. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 12.226 / 2.492.693 <80-100%> (+40%)
17./20. [3DS] Super Run For Money Tousouchuu Atsumare! Saikyou no Tousou Monotachi # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.07.09} (¥5.119) - 11.655 / 97.576 <80-100%> (+28%)
18./24. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: TriForce Heroes <ADV> (Nintendo) {2015.10.22} (¥5.076) - 11.591 / 141.525 <80-100%> (+37%)
19./00. [PS3] TV Anime Idolm@ster: Cinderella Girls G4U! Pack Vol.7 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.12.23} (¥10.778) - 10.659 / NEW <80-100%>
20./00. [WIU] Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival <TBL> (Nintendo) {2015.11.21} (¥6.480) - 10.540 / 43.490 <40-60%>
21./00. [PS4] Star Wars: Battlefront # <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2015.11.19} (¥8.424) - 10.385 / 162.325 <80-100%>
22./00. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 10.331 / 4.445.087 <80-100%>
23./00. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble World <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2015.11.19} (¥3.996) - 10.025 / 40.485 <40-60%>
24./00. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 9.654 / 1.171.025 <80-100%>
25./25. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 9.599 / 2.415.262 <80-100%> (+16%)
26./00. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS <FTG> (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616) - 9.460 / 2.413.477 <80-100%>
27./00. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Returns <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.10.08} (¥6.145) - 9.408 / 75.340 <80-100%>
28./23. [3DS] Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2015.09.17} (¥5.076) - 9.299 / 290.190 <80-100%> (+9%)
29./00. [WIU] Yo-Kai Watch Dance: Just Dance Special Version # <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.12.05} (¥4.622) - 9.005 / 26.677 <40-60%>
30./29. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Atsumete Tomodachi Daisakusen! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.26} (¥5.724) - 8.598 / 36.737 <40-60%> (+20%)

Top 30

3DS - 18
WIU - 7
PS4 - 2
PSV - 2
PS3 - 1

HARDWARE

Code:

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ |System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ | 3DS # | 160.447 | 147.688 | 218.351 | 2.189.900 | 3.153.045 | 20.036.956 | | WIU | 101.122 | 80.301 | 48.927 | 820.304 | 604.856 | 2.943.587 | | PSV # | 66.069 | 46.182 | 40.523 | 959.342 | 1.147.936 | 4.382.417 | | PS4 | [B]60.330[/B] | 49.634 | 30.145 | 1.205.163 | 925.570 | 2.130.733 | | PS3 | 3.459 | 2.381 | 10.142 | 188.207 | 450.034 | 10.206.741 | | XB1 | 479 | 446 | 815 | 18.093 | 45.958 | 64.051 | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+ | ALL | 391.906 | 326.632 | 348.997 | 5.381.009 | 6.425.952 | 39.764.485 | +-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

PS4 with so little software support manages to double its last year numbers.. Not bad at all.

koutoru · Dec 30, 2015

Kuro-Law said:
You know id heard #FE was bombing but i thought maybe the idol bait could help it :/

That would of worked....if it was on the Vita.

Pennywise83 · Dec 30, 2015

Chris1964 said:

1*: [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.800) - 2.146.467 / 4.502.846
2*: [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 1.875.115 / 3.556.119 <94,10%>
3*: [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.10.11} (¥6.264) - 1.617.949 / 2.569.489 <80-100%>
4*: [3DS] Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥6.264) - 1.542.104 / 2.441.977 <80-100%>

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |    1*    |    1*    |    2*    |    2*    |    3*    |    3*    |    4*    |    4*    |
|Wk|2010.12.01|2010.12.01|2013.09.14|2013.09.14|2014.10.11|2014.10.11|2015.11.28|2015.11.28|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2011.04.17|2011.04.17|2014.01.26|2014.01.26|2015.02.22|2015.02.22|2016.04.10|2016.04.10|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1| 2.146.467| 2.146.467| 1.875.115| 1.875.115| 1.617.949| 1.617.949| 1.542.104| 1.542.104|
| 2|   514.198| 2.660.665|   432.286| 2.307.401|   260.485| 1.878.434|   374.682| 1.916.786|
| 3|   434.837| 3.095.502|   234.713| 2.542.114|   148.020| 2.026.454|   191.324| 2.108.110|
| 4|   385.487| 3.480.989|   164.593| 2.706.707|    89.364| 2.115.818|   159.806| 2.267.916|
| 5|   317.471| 3.798.460|   111.230| 2.817.937|    50.841| 2.166.659|   174.061| 2.441.977|
| 6|   155.839| 3.954.299|    97.336| 2.915.273|    33.770| 2.200.429|          |          |
| 7|    80.703| 4.035.002|    60.206| 2.975.479|    27.347| 2.227.776|          |          |
| 8|    56.450| 4.091.452|    47.393| 3.022.872|    27.001| 2.254.777|          |          |
| 9|    39.453| 4.130.905|    39.167| 3.062.039|    20.564| 2.275.341|          |          |
|10|    32.655| 4.163.560|    32.813| 3.094.852|    25.181| 2.300.522|          |          |
|11|   104.900| 4.268.460|    24.684| 3.119.536|    34.184| 2.334.706|          |          |
|12|    26.865| 4.295.325|    25.756| 3.145.292|    46.471| 2.381.177|          |          |
|13|    20.594| 4.315.919|    25.743| 3.171.035|    44.349| 2.425.526|          |          |
|14|    16.912| 4.332.831|    35.660| 3.206.695|    21.498| 2.447.024|          |          |
|15|    13.891| 4.346.722|    46.279| 3.252.974|    14.603| 2.461.627|          |          |
|16|    11.924| 4.358.646|    40.338| 3.293.312|    11.345| 2.472.972|          |          |
|17|    13.536| 4.372.182|    48.622| 3.341.934|     9.044| 2.482.016|          |          |
|18|    12.946| 4.385.128|    19.133| 3.361.067|     8.081| 2.490.097|          |          |
|19|     9.589| 4.394.717|    12.713| 3.373.780|     7.204| 2.497.301|          |          |
|20|     6.246| 4.400.963|     9.224| 3.383.004|     5.902| 2.503.203|          |          |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

MHX is basically chasing for MH4 - both games had pretty good digital sales which are not reported here.

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2015

1*: [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 534.782 / 1.470.222 <77,60%>
2*: [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi) {2015.12.17} (¥4.860) - 425.268 / 636.709 <40-60%>

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |    1*    |    1*    |    2*    |    2*    |
|Wk|2013.12.12|2013.12.12|2015.12.17|2015.12.17|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2014.04.27|2014.04.27|2016.05.01|2016.05.01|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|   534.782|   534.782|   425.268|   425.268|
| 2|   271.947|   806.729|   211.441|   636.709|
| 3|   198.968| 1.005.697|          |          |
| 4|   151.806| 1.157.503|          |          |
| 5|    39.537| 1.197.040|          |          |
| 6|    31.133| 1.228.173|          |          |
| 7|    21.999| 1.250.172|          |          |
| 8|    19.693| 1.269.865|          |          |
| 9|    14.344| 1.284.209|          |          |
|10|    13.371| 1.297.580|          |          |
|11|    11.134| 1.308.714|          |          |
|12|    11.546| 1.320.260|          |          |
|13|    10.090| 1.330.350|          |          |
|14|     8.826| 1.339.176|          |          |
|15|     9.561| 1.348.737|          |          |
|16|     9.811| 1.358.548|          |          |
|17|     7.691| 1.366.239|          |          |
|18|     5.318| 1.371.557|          |          |
|19|     4.925| 1.376.482|          |          |
|20|     5.290| 1.381.772|          |          |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+

Sandfox · Dec 30, 2015

Ridley327 said:
The continuing handheld success for RPGs is proving my point, though, since those platforms offered up the big franchises as well as new ones. Nintendo consoles have really offered up just the latter, and that's a big problem for drawing an audience for the genre.

Is that really true for the Wii?

MaschinenZimmer · Dec 30, 2015

Damn, the reivews on Amazon Japan for #FE are also pretty positive. This bomba is really sad. I dig the style and will pick it up on release here, but... damn. I guess we won't see a second game unless Nintendo is willing to pay.

LifeBrandRobot · Dec 30, 2015

Wow, the audience for anime games really isn't on Nintendo, or on the WiiU at least. It's pretty understandable why so many release on the Vita/PS4 instead even though there are way fewer of them in Japan.

Yoshi · Dec 30, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

If only they had stuck to that. I would certainly have been there day one. Instead we get this... thing...

FluxWaveZ · Dec 30, 2015

NotLiquid said:
At the same time didn't he also say in an interview around the reveal time that the idea of the crossover in general spawned from envisioning the combination of FE with a contemporary setting, likening it to a Pegasus swooping down the Shibuya districts or some such (which explicitly happens in the trailers)? Whatever the original concepts were I don't think anything stuck for very long since we already had some idea from back then how the game was going to eventually end up.

I think a lot of the ideas were pretty nebulous for a while but, yeah, I'm pretty sure the fundamental idea was always for a Fire Emblem that takes place in a modern setting. It seems, however, this could have also meant actual Fire Emblem characters and actual SMT characters being crossed over into an actual Tokyo, instead of the hybrid that is #FE. From the sounds of things, the devs got really into the entertainment idea for some reason.

kuroneko0509 said:
wait.. wasn't the original stuff is that photo-app thing? unless i'm confusing it with some other thing

You might be confusing its origin story a bit. Atlus' Shinjiro Takada had said that Atlus was working on a photo booth app for the DSi and 3DS and that's when Nintendo approached them about a Fire Emblem related project, which they dismissed because they had a lot of their own stuff to do. The idea was then brought up later when they had time to do it.

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2015

Full year stats

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |   XB1    |   PS4    |   WIU    |  PSV #   |  3DS #   |   PS3    |
|CY|2014.09.04|2014.02.22|2012.12.08|2011.12.17|2011.02.26|2006.11.11|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2015.12.27|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|    45.958|   925.570|   638.339|   402.794| 4.135.739|   466.716|
| 2|    18.093| 1.205.163|   880.088|   674.365| 5.626.763| 1.206.347|
| 3|          |          |   604.856| 1.197.980| 4.931.509|   991.303|
| 4|          |          |   820.304| 1.147.936| 3.153.045| 1.727.041|
| 5|          |          |          |   959.342| 2.189.900| 1.558.480|
| 6|          |          |          |          |          | 1.467.261|
| 7|          |          |          |          |          | 1.327.185|
| 8|          |          |          |          |          |   824.167|
| 9|          |          |          |          |          |   450.034|
|10|          |          |          |          |          |   188.207|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

shadow2810 · Dec 30, 2015

FluxWaveZ said:
Nintendo producer Hitoshi Yamagami stated in a blog post that the original idea was an SRPG that was closer to the idea of SMT characters and FE characters meeting each other than how it turned out when they leaned for the entertainment concept.

Thanks. It could work if the game was on... 3DS. SRPG is pretty much dead on home console now.

Sandfox · Dec 30, 2015

MaschinenZimmer said:
Damn, the reivews on Amazon Japan for #FE are also pretty positive. This bomba is really sad. I dig the style and will pick it up on release here, but... damn. I guess we won't see a second game unless Nintendo is willing to pay.

The staff behind the game is ace so I would expect it to at least be fun.

Quonny · Dec 30, 2015

Bomba for the ages.

King Gilga · Dec 30, 2015

If you told me that splatoon would be sell 100k units 8 months after release I would have called you crazy. Game blew all expectations out of the water.

Peff said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTM3JMMBtjs

Wow, thank god it bombed.

Kysen · Dec 30, 2015

That FE game is persona with a different name but damn what a bomba. Total audience mismatch.

Sadist · Dec 30, 2015

Oh well, I expected these kind of sales for #FE.

Splatoon is doing great though.

mrmickfran · Dec 30, 2015

Chris1964 said:

Full year stats

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |   XB1    |   PS4    |   WIU    |  PSV #   |  3DS #   |   PS3    |
|CY|2014.09.04|2014.02.22|2012.12.08|2011.12.17|2011.02.26|2006.11.11|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2015.12.27|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|    45.958|   925.570|   638.339|   402.794| 4.135.739|   466.716|
| 2|    18.093| 1.205.163|   880.088|   674.365| 5.626.763| 1.206.347|
| 3|          |          |   604.856| 1.197.980| 4.931.509|   991.303|
| 4|          |          |   820.304| 1.147.936| 3.153.045| 1.727.041|
| 5|          |          |          |   959.342| 2.189.900| 1.558.480|
| 6|          |          |          |          |          | 1.467.261|
| 7|          |          |          |          |          | 1.327.185|
| 8|          |          |          |          |          |   824.167|
| 9|          |          |          |          |          |   450.034|
|10|          |          |          |          |          |   188.207|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

Dat 3DS drop tho.

Ridley327 · Dec 30, 2015

Sandfox said:
Is that really true for the Wii?

Outside of Tales of Graces and DQX (which has since been nullified with the game going multiplatform), what RPGs came out on the Wii that were from the big players and not cheap spin-offs and/or experiments?

Let's face it: nearly all of the RPGs that still get talked about on the Wii were the ones that Nintendo funded, and those didn't exactly burn up the sales charts, either.

Tadaima · Dec 30, 2015

Chris1964 said:
Full year stats

Thanks for this. Could we please get Wii, 360, PSP, and DS in there too?

Bruno MB · Dec 30, 2015

mrmickfran said:
Dat 3DS drop tho.

Yet the only present and future hardware that could match or surpass in a year what Nintendo 3DS sold in 2015 is Nintendo's next handheld system.

Ricky 7 · Dec 30, 2015

kuroneko0509 said:
what original idea? you mean the stuff that fans think of the original idea which isn't true? lol

Oh yeah, that's right.

Edit: oh wait Nvm lol, just read the above posts.

maxcriden · Dec 30, 2015

udivision said:
It needs more depth. Add Paper Mario.

Pretty sure PM has more sales potential than FE# or XCX. And it might cost less to make.

I'm 85% sure you're being a touch glib, but yeah. I'm sure PM is a heck of a lot cheaper to make!

KaneU · Dec 30, 2015

TraBuch said:
I had zero idea SMT x FE was even close to release. How's it reviewing?

I would like to know this too.

FluxWaveZ · Dec 30, 2015

KaneU said:
I would like to know this too.

34/40 in Famitsu, if that means anything to you. Impressions are generally positive, with some commenting that they dislike the dialog and reports that the load times for the physical version are notably long.

Chris1964 · Dec 30, 2015

Tadaima said:
Thanks for this. Could we please get Wii, 360, PSP, and DS in there too?

i have only 8 columns, maybe I must add more.

Code:

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |   XB1    |   PS4    |   WIU    |  PSV #   |  3DS #   |   WII    |   PS3    |   360    |
|CY|2014.09.04|2014.02.22|2012.12.08|2011.12.17|2011.02.26|2006.12.02|2006.11.11|2005.12.10|
|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
|  |2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2020.12.27|2015.12.27|2015.12.27|2014.12.28|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|    45.958|   925.570|   638.339|   402.794| 4.135.739|   989.118|   466.716|    81.770|
| 2|    18.093| 1.205.163|   880.088|   674.365| 5.626.763| 3.629.361| 1.206.347|   208.697|
| 3|          |          |   604.856| 1.197.980| 4.931.509| 2.908.342|   991.303|   257.841|
| 4|          |          |   820.304| 1.147.936| 3.153.045| 1.975.178| 1.727.041|   317.859|
| 5|          |          |          |   959.342| 2.189.900| 1.728.293| 1.558.480|   331.706|
| 6|          |          |          |          |          |   937.451| 1.467.261|   208.790|
| 7|          |          |          |          |          |   492.999| 1.327.185|   114.075|
| 8|          |          |          |          |          |    77.337|   824.167|    67.273|
| 9|          |          |          |          |          |     7.187|   450.034|    19.548|
|10|          |          |          |          |          |          |   188.207|     7.381|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

Code:

+--+----------+----------+
|  | Famitsu  | Famitsu  |
|  |  NDS #   |  PSP #   |
|CY|2004.12.02|2004.12.12|
|  |    to    |    to    |
|  |2014.12.28|2014.12.28|
+--+----------+----------+
| 1| 1.095.930|   339.944|
| 2| 4.002.871| 2.225.799|
| 3| 8.862.969| 1.946.911|
| 4| 7.143.702| 3.022.659|
| 5| 4.029.804| 3.543.171|
| 6| 4.025.313| 2.307.971|
| 7| 2.963.709| 2.890.476|
| 8|   711.204| 1.960.177|
| 9|    28.627|   941.992|
|10|          |   429.393|
|11|          |    83.985|
+--+----------+----------+

Fisico · Dec 30, 2015

Kysen said:
That FE game is persona with a different name but damn what a bomba. Total audience mismatch.

I always see "Persona" being namedropped about #FE, but as someone who liked the original P3 and P4 (the former more than the latter) and is eagerly waiting for P5, #FE has like next to nothing about what I like in the Persona brand...

#FE is its own thing really, and it barely look closer to Persona than to SMT honestly.

FreedomFighter · Dec 30, 2015

Yoshi said:
Incredible Wii U numbers again, selling an eighth of its total sales this year in a single week...
Also really happy to see Mario & Luigi 5 reaching the 60-80% bracket now. Considering another somewhat strong week is approaching, it might get into the precious 80-100% bracket and not be considered a failure by Nintendo. Great game and I would be sad to see the M&L series come to a close.

I just want to see it get to 200k and leg it out from there. The West will have to come to the rescue and at least get it on par with Partners in Time sales-wise.

Sammy Samusu · Dec 30, 2015

Peff said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTM3JMMBtjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

???

KratosEnergyDrink · Dec 30, 2015

noobie said:
PS4 with so little software support manages to double its last year numbers.. Not bad at all.

PS4 already had many games this year. Much more than the WiiU. This holiday sales of PS4 are disappointing at least.

LordOcidax · Dec 30, 2015

According to Dengeki, #FE sold about the 50% of their retail stock, looks like they doesn't have high expectation on this game in Japan.

jay · Dec 30, 2015

MechaX said:
One of the problems is that #FE is a game that appeals to neither the SMT nor FE fanbases.

I don't want to be a dick, but boy am I not upset about the numbers. Fire Emblem has been going down an unpleasant road since Awakening.

Oregano · Dec 30, 2015

Ridley327 said:
Outside of Tales of Graces and DQX (which has since been nullified with the game going multiplatform), what RPGs came out on the Wii that were from the big players and not cheap spin-offs and/or experiments?

Let's face it: nearly all of the RPGs that still get talked about on the Wii were the ones that Nintendo funded, and those didn't exactly burn up the sales charts, either.

That's not mentioning the obvious Wii-Spin-off syndrome. Soul Calibur Legends, Resident Evil Chronicles, Castlevania Judgement.

Tadaima said:
It's interesting seeing mobile games such as Monster Strike doing so well as full-price retail titles on dedicated platforms. What does this say about the perception of dedicated platforms and their full-price titles among the casual audience?

It probably says that Nintendo's plan to use Mobile to upsell their premium games probably isn't so crazy.

BrokenFiction · Dec 30, 2015

Give me #FE, Nintendo. I'll buy one (1) copy from you!

Pennywise83 · Dec 30, 2015

LifeBrandRobot said:
Wow, the audience for anime games really isn't on Nintendo, or on the WiiU at least. It's pretty understandable why so many release on the Vita/PS4 instead even though there are way fewer of them in Japan.

Are anime games... a thing?

Anyway, plenty of games with anime aesthetics sold well on Nintendo platforms. Persona Q sold 270k units on 3DS, for example.

Oregano · Dec 30, 2015

Pennywise83 said:
Are anime games... a thing?

Anyway, plenty of games with anime aesthetics sold well on Nintendo platforms. Persona Q sold 270k units on 3DS, for example.

I heard that Pokémans thingamabob was based on an Anime. How successful was that?

FreedomFighter · Dec 30, 2015

shark sandwich said:
Holy shit at SMT X FE.

I thought Fire Emblem was fairly popular in Japan?

It is. But this game has nothing to do with Fire Emblem aside from name only. And I've only played SMTIV and the game looks nothing like that either. It's like they purposely alienated both bases.

Spiegel said:
They were thinking that Nintendo was not going to pay for a Vita game

lol

Using their own IP no doubt.

Mpl90 said:
08./09. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.03} (¥5.076) - 55.583 / 174.674 <60-80%> (+43%)

Holidays are really helping this game.

And yet, IIRC there are still 100,000 copies on shelves.

Most of them will be "bomba" binned even if the game does decently next week...

duckroll · Dec 30, 2015

Uguu sales for Uguu game. Should have been on Vita. At least then they could have added 1000 year old dragon touching and sold a bit more.

KratosEnergyDrink · Dec 30, 2015

LifeBrandRobot said:
Wow, the audience for anime games really isn't on Nintendo, or on the WiiU at least. It's pretty understandable why so many release on the Vita/PS4 instead even though there are way fewer of them in Japan.

3DS has plenty of these. I think FESMT looks simply not very interesting to every audience.

AcademicSaucer · Dec 30, 2015

Hopefully this makes them port this game to their next handheld to recoup some of the losses.

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