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Definitely. I'm glad Wii U has established at least one new, successful IP for Nintendo in Japan.
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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2015 (Dec 21 - Dec 27)
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Definitely. I'm glad Wii U has established at least one new, successful IP for Nintendo in Japan.
Pennywise83
Banned
It's not - Puzzle & Dragons Z had a bigger drop if I remember correctly.
Also, MHX increasing shows its stregth with respect to MH4G.
Yeah finally a lot more Japanese centric games coming out.
higgsboson1997
Member
3DS hits the 20 million milestone. Well deserved. Also, Splatoon over 1 million in retail alone now, which is quite insane.
Nintendo really ought to look into improving their console RPG situation.
The last time that RPGs did well in Japan on Nintendo consoles was back on the SNES. Nintendo kinda let that entire crowd go over to Playstation and they've had little reason to come back.
The last time that RPGs did well in Japan on Nintendo consoles was back on the SNES. Nintendo kinda let that entire crowd go over to Playstation and they've had little reason to come back.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Incredible Wii U numbers again, selling an eighth of its total sales this year in a single week...
Also really happy to see Mario & Luigi 5 reaching the 60-80% bracket now. Considering another somewhat strong week is approaching, it might get into the precious 80-100% bracket and not be considered a failure by Nintendo. Great game and I would be sad to see the M&L series come to a close.
Also really happy to see Mario & Luigi 5 reaching the 60-80% bracket now. Considering another somewhat strong week is approaching, it might get into the precious 80-100% bracket and not be considered a failure by Nintendo. Great game and I would be sad to see the M&L series come to a close.
If an Atlus game of considerable production values on Wii U sold about the same as the average Idea Factory RPG on a PS platform, what would an Idea Factory RPG sell on Wii U?
Dem #FE sales. That's what what happens when you make a Vita game not for the Vita. Seriously Atlus could've made this game easily without Fire Emblem franchise involve instead had Persona characters in it and it would've sold more than 3 times as much on the Vita. Not sure what Atlus was thinking. Persona 4 Dancing all Night sold 94K in it's first week in comparison.
JonnyDBrit
Member
It is, but I feel like the presentation of the game might have obfuscated things a bit. Its an SMT styled game with FE themed characters, rather than SMT characters meeting FE characters, which would be the more blatant gimmick. It certainly doesn't seem like it was massively stocked either - less than 60k copies if I'm doing the maths right (apologies, kinda new to this).
Still, Wii U hardware numbers are pretty damn good (relatively speaking), and Splatoon and Super Mario Maker are still selling a tonne, so I doubt Nintendo will be too upset. Should be interesting what (if any) sales they'll be able to retain after the holiday is gone.
LordOcidax
Member
Amazing Wii U sales, and Splatoon and Mario Maker WOW... #FE is going to sell better in the West... Good week overall
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Plus a likely pricecut and PS4 slim, coinciding with console bundles for the big Japanese games.
Nintendo funded it, so it's not like Atlus is the one taking the hit here, nor was it a situation where it was going to be anything other than a Nintendo-bound title.
They were thinking that Nintendo was not going to pay for a Vita game
It needs more depth. Add Paper Mario.
Pretty sure PM has more sales potential than FE# or XCX. And it might cost less to make.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo helped out with it.
Yeah odd choice to even make this a "cross over" game. They could have easily made this just another SMT game or hell call it Persona: subtitle if they want the bigger fan base (I assume Persona does better than the mainline games?).
Gotta build up that audience lol.
I'm pretty sure its a combination of Nintendo footing the bill and them wanting to create a new frachise.
Pretty good hold imho
I was being sarcastic.
Pennywise83
Banned
To develop a jRPG with the collaboration of Nintendo? Also, the project likely started before Wii U was even released.
jRPGs sold / are selling really well on GB, GBA, DS and 3DS, though. Also, GC and Wii had some success stories in the genre, such as Tales of Symphonia, Dragon Quest X.
So what you're saying is it should sell millions?
A Link to the Past
Banned
I gotta say, I don't get why they opted for SMT over Persona anyway. Judging from first impressions, the game seems to have a more SMT-based tone.
Gundam Force did better than I expected
Great hardware all around, except for Xbone which somehow did not move
Splatoon, Splatoon, Splatoooon! I love it!
Oh dear me, #FE, dear me....
Aaaaand that's it. Nothing left but to wait for the yearly numbers. We've spent some great times together, ladies and germs. Here's to another year!
Great hardware all around, except for Xbone which somehow did not move
Splatoon, Splatoon, Splatoooon! I love it!
Oh dear me, #FE, dear me....
Aaaaand that's it. Nothing left but to wait for the yearly numbers. We've spent some great times together, ladies and germs. Here's to another year!
I think the bigger problem is that Nintendo has long mistaken the need for certain IPs on their console as being filled with new IPs that are sort of like them. It's fine for #FE to exist as an spinoff to something like Persona, but you're going to attract Persona fans if you don't actually have Persona to go along with it.
So what was called an "Otaku" game in this thread will do better outside Japan? Does that mean there's more Otaku outside of Japan? What a time to be alive. But seriously I don't expect #FE to do any good in the West.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Regarding #FE I just hope Nintendo does not blame Fire Emblem. What I see from #FE has nothing to do with FE and I, as a huge FE fan, actually think it looks like utter shit. Certainly no SRPG goodness - and said gameplay is the reason I like FE, not their stereotypical character designs.
TheMoon
Member
Because it's neither an FE nor an SMT game and not really a crossover but its entirely own thing taking some elements from both series.
It would make no sense for them to do that.
Eolz
Member
I don't see them blaming FE anytime soon after the push it got thanks to Awakening (Smash, amiibos, merchandise, Fates, etc).
I'm not sure it'll a million though. It's got to hit a big drop when the holidays are over.
Oh wow, I think you've absolutely hit the nail on the head.
Probably could achieve Monster Hunter like sales on a popular handheld.
Next Splatoon will be nuts if it is on Handheld and Console.
#FE should have stuck to the original idea instead of this high school/idol/Persona mess they went with. Probably won't have sold better but at aleast it would have had a better chance in the west. A bit early to say I know but I doubt it's gonna do any better if or when it does get released here.
The continuing handheld success for RPGs is proving my point, though, since those platforms offered up the big franchises as well as new ones. Nintendo consoles have really offered up just the latter, and that's a big problem for drawing an audience for the genre.
kuroneko0509
Member
what original idea? you mean the stuff that fans think of the original idea which isn't true? lol
shadow2810
Member
I think I missed something. What was the original idea?
Do we know that wasn't the original idea?
If that's supposed to be a new franchise than yikes, it straight up flatlined. I know Nintendo funded it but it feels like Atlus wanted to make this type of game and could've done it without Nintendo and be successful at it using their own (Persona/SMT) characters. This was just an all around failure for both parties here involved.
Bruno MB
Member
I would have never expected some months ago that Wii U would have such a good December sales. Our predictions have been crushed. Highest one I've seen for Wii U had it at 210.000 units. The average was around 135.000.
And Splatoon is already at 1,2 million including eShop sales. I always thought that some past predictions were crazy high (>1,5 million) especially when it seemed the game showed signs of slowing down, but I will have to give this one to Ryng_tolu. But please, enough with flooding the boards about your expectations for Splatoon
And Splatoon is already at 1,2 million including eShop sales. I always thought that some past predictions were crazy high (>1,5 million) especially when it seemed the game showed signs of slowing down, but I will have to give this one to Ryng_tolu. But please, enough with flooding the boards about your expectations for Splatoon
When they started development on this game their parent company was going bust and Fire Emblem had just exploded in popularity.
Also look how many HD RPGs Atlus has published on their own....
Fire Emblem is a top franchise in Japan; it did fantastic on the 3DS.
They only have to blame themselves; who takes two of the most beloved franchises and turns it into a Persona-fied idol RPG that is filled to the brim with fan service? This game's destiny been sealed the day it was formally reintroduced.