Messofanego
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I'd easily put Conquest of the Planet of the Apes below the original in that ranking. Essential viewing. It's the most political of the lot. Haven't seen War yet.
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Wkd BO 0714-1617 - Audiences go Ape, Sick of Spider-man and Wonder Woman (finally)?
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I'd easily put Conquest of the Planet of the Apes below the original in that ranking. Essential viewing. It's the most political of the lot. Haven't seen War yet.
DarkLordMalik
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Zelenogorsk
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To be fair by 2011 there had been one good MCU movie (Iron Man) and 4 bad ones. Thor and Captain America where so bad that I didn't see another Marvel movie in theaters until Age of Ultron. So if you had asked me in 2011 I would have said the same thing.
The vast majority of people do not consider Captain America to be a bad movie.
I noticed you said 30 years instead of the 15 i think you were talking before (referring to Spider Man 1's run?), has the run become even more extraordinary? What made the 15 turn into 30?
30 years in terms of legs. Well almost 30 years. Batman 89 had better legs. Blade 1 did as well, but Blade was a minor film compared to any of the big releases today.
What gave you that impression?
WaffleTaco
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I wouldn't call it bad, but I would say, you have to have some major suspension of disbelief to make the plot work. It's also rather slow and feels as if not a lot happens. I think people were wanting more out of the last movie in the trilogy.
I just read good things about it and people were really excited for it.
Pop-O-Matic
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FTFY. Only on movier boards and threads like this one will you hear anyone talk shit about Thor 2.
True, but they don't consider it to be a good film either.
I genuinely like Thor 2 and don't understand the hate it gets.
Seriously.
BronsonLee
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wat
Jawmuncher
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That's one hell of a drop for Spider-Man. Wonder why. People tired of the Spidey as a kid regardless if the movie is good?
That's because nobody outside of internet forums would even remember it to talk about it.
It's one of the most forgettable movies I've ever seen.
Yeah I imagine none of them are outright bad, but exist in the it was fun but forgettable realm.
Captain America has a good first twenty or thirty minutes but the second and third acts are the very definition of lazy, go nowhere story telling.
Jawmuncher
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Captain America is my favorite marvel movie. Easily better than civil war.
Yeah, that's MCU in a nutshell to me. The only one I ever feel like watching again is Winter Soldier.
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Lights and Waves
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Got press passes for Valerinan. This should be interesting...lol
The musical number is the peak of the movie for me.
And just to be fair before someone says something, not saying these movies are bad, but most movies we watch just kind of exist as "oh right I saw that"
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
First Avenger > Iron Man & Avengers
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
BronsonLee
Member
I don't give a FUCK about Cap 1 after he gets the serum
The best parts are pre-serum
The best parts are pre-serum
broncobuster
Banned
In 2011, at least among friends, it was: hey, X-Men First Class* was pretty good. Thor and Captain America were mediocre. Green Lantern was a trash fire.
Many years later, that hasn't changed much for me. Online, it seems First Class and Captain America are seen better in retrospect.
Again at the time, it was hard to get excited for Avengers after Iron Man 2, TIH, Cap TFA, and Thor. Wasn't until Iron Man shows up in Germany that it picked up and it ended up being pretty good.
*quick note: this was after X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins Wolverine, so there was skepticism going into First Class. Plus you had those awful posters.
Many years later, that hasn't changed much for me. Online, it seems First Class and Captain America are seen better in retrospect.
Again at the time, it was hard to get excited for Avengers after Iron Man 2, TIH, Cap TFA, and Thor. Wasn't until Iron Man shows up in Germany that it picked up and it ended up being pretty good.
*quick note: this was after X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins Wolverine, so there was skepticism going into First Class. Plus you had those awful posters.
I guess I see how it could be considered an origin story, but it's certainly not a clearcut one. He had been Spider-Man before the movie started and we never see him become Spider-Man or learn to use his powers, etc... It seems more like a "early days" story than an origin story to me.
Wonder Woman, which has done surprisingly well, however, is an origin story and that didn't seem to be an issue.
I think that people don't want to see origin stories for the same characters over and over. We all know why Bruce became Batman, know about Superman's origin, and Spider-Man's. Redoing those ad nauseum is a mistake. For characters that have not had origins on the big screen it doesn't seem like people are really sick of them. Deadpool and Wonder Woman, for example, both did quite well.
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BattleMonkey
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Too many reboots in short amount of time I'm sure really hurt the legs on this Spiderman. It's just anecdotal, but I know alot of people personally who just didn't see it yet cause they are like "another reboot already? ugh". Even if it's great, I think SONY kinda hurt the franchise by not giving Spidey some room to breath before trying again.
What's the highest War of the Apes can get to? They say a fourth is dependant on Box Office
Do we need a 4th?
Like I'm content with this being a trilogy and that being the final movie.
As stated earlier, this third film ties directly into the original Planet of the Apes. It contradicts nothing and sets it up perfectly. There is your 4th film right there.
War is the final movie in the trilogy, as they've said though it's the groundwork for the franchise going into the future where they can get more towards the 1968 original
I feel the same.
Not that a fourth couldn't be good, but I've really enjoyed this particular cast.
Then we're set!
We completed the circle.
We have a great modern trilogy and now we can loop back to the originals
Face of someone who knows they made the right decision!
Considering the name of a certain character, wouldn't it be set way sooner after Caesar than the first movie?
Inferno313
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These three Apes films haven't ever been intended to be literal prequels to the original story, but a reboot that is telling the stories of how a Planet of the Apes could come about. They're not literally building up to the original film. If they ever do get to a point where they'll remake the original following on from these, it'll be a new take on the story.
I know that. I'm just saying the dynamics and conflict would be entirely different because ape civilization won't have progressed as far as in the original movie.
Could be one of those like royalty things where they alternate the names of Kings/princes
I couldn't be more jealous.
ronaldthump
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nah. it's a good thing they rebooted it when they did and Spidey is in the MCU and will be in infinity wars.
PhoncipleBone
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cartographer
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Thor 2 is basically middle-of-the-road MCU at this point. Maybe a bit on the low end now with Homecoming out. There's far worse MCU stuff.
Thor 1 is one of the best non-Cap movies.
I think First Avenger might the most overrated of all the MCU films. It's one good act and the rest is montage ridden nonsense and flat story beats.
Ignatz Mouse
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What's worse than Thor 2? The only one I like less in Incredible Hulk, and at least it had a coherent through line.
Not meant to be combative, I'm curious which ones since I legitimately didn't like Thor 2 and have ranged from liked to loved almost everything else.