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Wkd BO 0714-1617 - Audiences go Ape, Sick of Spider-man and Wonder Woman (finally)?
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-2011 on neogaf
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Aw man.
Seeing Dawn of the Dead at a drive in (when I was waaaay too young for it) was a formative moment for me.
You've had a great record so far this year, but I cannot imagine Valerian doing that lol.
lol Valerian will be closer to $77m dom total than ow.
so bullish on valerian, wow. I don't think it's even going to hit $500M
RastaMentality
Banned
obvious joke is obvious
starchild excalibur
Member
OW Domestic:
Valerian - $22 mil
Dunkirk - $61 mil
Girls Trip - $24 mil
Source: my butt
¯\_(ツ
_/¯That the total WW amount for Valerian, right?
Obliterator
Member
Dunkirk - 45m OW
139m Domestic
440m Total
139m Domestic
440m Total
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
It's weird that Homecoming has a 50-50 divide whereas every 'real' MCU movie is 34-66. I wonder if the domestic is somewhat arbitrarily propped up by fans, or whether the 'MCU bump' is not actually a factor as much as good reviews are.
BattleMonkey
Member
The power of making movies without over paid actors
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Throw all the money at the FX crew. The work that Weta has done in these films has been incredible.
OrangeAtlas
Member
Damn shame, quality of his recent films aside he was a legend.
He was supposed to be making a secret appearance at a film festival here in Montreal soon.
Spider-man is currently 44-56 and China hasnt released.
Dream bigger.
OrangeAtlas
Member
I don't remember what it ended up with but I'm expecting Valerian to get similar numbers to King Arthur: Legend of the Sword.
Getting massively similar vibes from those two.
Getting massively similar vibes from those two.
I think Marvel fatigue will set in after Avengers 4. The scale can't get any bigger than that and they'll have played all their cards to draw additional interest: Spidey in MCU, first black hero, first female hero, etc.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
Dunkirk:
OW 75m
Dom 165m
WW 484m
Valerian:
OW 16m
Dom 45m
WW 280m
OW 75m
Dom 165m
WW 484m
Valerian:
OW 16m
Dom 45m
WW 280m
hodayathink
Member
They still have interesting cards to play post Avengers 4 (a Thunderbolts movie being the one off the top of my head), but just finishing off the already started sets of character movies as trilogies gets them through "another phase" (Black Panther 2, GOTG 3, Homecoming 2, Ant Man 3, Cap Marvel 2). And there's still new heroes they could add, or even a one-off of one of the current Avengers (Black Widow, Hawkeye, IM4). And there's still storylines like Secret Wars (original) or Dark Reign (especially if they continue their deal with Sony to give them access to Osborn) to use for Avengers/large scale team-up movies. We may not see another GOTG or Avengers 1 level breakout success for a while, but the truth is that Marvel's floor is probably around $500-650 million for a decent but not great non-team up movie, and as long as they can keep making their movies for $125-$175 million production budget, they can make these movies for as long as they want and still profit off them.
BronsonLee
Member
Dawn was like 225 mil right
Maybe War was cheaper somehow?
Maybe War was cheaper somehow?
hodayathink
Member
We already know Spider-Man has another co-starring partner in Homecoming 2. We just don't know who it'll be yet. And this is something else I see coming more often post Avengers 4.
Edit: And this the only place where I feel it hurts keeping the Netflix characters so separate from the movie ones. A Spider-Man/Daredevil team up isn't something we're going to see happen, more than likely, no matter how much sense it would make for them to come together to battle Kingpin.
Ant-Man and The Wasp?
hodayathink
Member
Hope was already basically second or third billing in the first Ant-Man movie. I'm thinking more along the lines of Scott and Stephen discovering the Microverse.
ShaggsMagoo
Member
yeah
Wait....when did Wonder Woman become a Metal Gear Solid villain?
BronsonLee
Member
That's cause you a BUSTAH
Why would a king concern himself with the rebellion of an ant
Dawn was 170, War was 150.
Which makes sense. War had less action and less actors it seemed.
I am trying to figure out what they do next.
I mean War veeeeeeery obviously set up the original 1968 Planet of the Apes. So much of that film set up the original. I mean you could go straight into that and everything would make sense. So either these 3 are a prequel trilogy to the original or they are going to remake the original next.
I think they're just letting it lead to the original.
Which is good since they probably wouldn't make another one anyway seeing how War is doing.
Has to lead to the future Colonel Kurtz was fearing.
Black Republican
Member
heh, people doubted you?
Pattycakes
Banned
Did anyone expect Baby Driver to continue to be plugging along? It's had some nice staying power.
igordennis
Member
I noticed you said 30 years instead of the 15 i think you were talking before (referring to Spider Man 1's run?), has the run become even more extraordinary? What made the 15 turn into 30?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Dunkirk
DOM: 170m
WW: 600m
Valerian
DOM: 40m
WW: 300m
DOM: 170m
WW: 600m
Valerian
DOM: 40m
WW: 300m
"Ok, there's no evidence or apparent effect but this thing is totally real, any moment now".
Discotheque
Banned
fantastic bluray idea.
so far my ranking is:
Dawn
original Planet of the Apes
Rise
will see War in a couple days, pretty excited for that. I don't recall any of the old planet of the apes sequels but there were probably a few good ones in there. The first with charlton heston was a great sci fi.
the tim burton movie sucked but the evil ape in there was pretty terrifying. Tim Roth and the makeup department killed it.
No but it is going to clean both ASM movies domestically lol
LordOfLore
Banned
Did we know Lasseter stepped down from Toy Story 4?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I was surprised at reading a couple of posts that said 'War was bad', hm.
Spiderman was ok, not bad but not putting the world on fire too, I think people are tired of origin story ( sure we haven't seen Ben's death but it's still an origin story ), Iron Man hurt the movie as well for me, the fact that he is behind Spidey costume or
isn't a great idea, as good as Spidey and Vulture are in this movie, the rest of the cast is terrible, miscast, out of characters, acted badly etc...
I hope it'll do great at the end cause I want to see more of it and I'm sure it will but they need to step up their games for the sequel.
Karen or Spidey growth
I hope it'll do great at the end cause I want to see more of it and I'm sure it will but they need to step up their games for the sequel.
War is definitely bad. History tells us as much. It plain sucks.
LordOfLore
Banned
What is it good for?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
With the budget it has, there's no way Valerian will end up making a profit but I hope it will do all right in Europe and Asia. But if Tintin couldn't clear 400, Valerian doesn't have much of a chance.
Messofanego
Banned
I didn't, but glad to see it. Best action film of the year. Might go see it a third time.
