Diablohead
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Prime Hunters actually looks rather good scaled up, outside of the blocky crosshair.
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Nintendo DS Games in HD
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HolyBaikal
Banned
Wow, that looks amazing. I'm so glad that someone's finally done this.
The last I had read about this, this wasn't something planning to be done since the Nintendo DS using both 2D and 3D textures separately, and that can cause problems since they would both need to be upscaled at the same time and independently in a way that doesn't create glitches.
I remember several months back reading the blog of someone who had found a way to upscale the 3D of Nintendo DS games. But since the 2D textures weren't perfectly upscaled with it, it was glitchy and caused many games to be completely unplayable.
And many emulator developers seemed completely uninterested in improving textures at all. I think I remember reading one time that many developers for Nintendo DS emulators were completely against graphical enhancements being developed. Though I have no idea why. Perhaps they just didn't want to do it themselves and I heard wrong.
But I'm so glad that this has happened, because I've always wanted this. And I'm so glad it's being done. This looks much better to me. All of these screenshots look so great.
This kind of makes me want to go back and replay the English patched version of the Nintendo DS version of Tales of Innocence. I've played both the DS version and the Vita version a few times. And the Vita version is much better. But I feel like it would be fun to re-experience the English version of the game again this way.
This is so exciting!
The last I had read about this, this wasn't something planning to be done since the Nintendo DS using both 2D and 3D textures separately, and that can cause problems since they would both need to be upscaled at the same time and independently in a way that doesn't create glitches.
I remember several months back reading the blog of someone who had found a way to upscale the 3D of Nintendo DS games. But since the 2D textures weren't perfectly upscaled with it, it was glitchy and caused many games to be completely unplayable.
And many emulator developers seemed completely uninterested in improving textures at all. I think I remember reading one time that many developers for Nintendo DS emulators were completely against graphical enhancements being developed. Though I have no idea why. Perhaps they just didn't want to do it themselves and I heard wrong.
But I'm so glad that this has happened, because I've always wanted this. And I'm so glad it's being done. This looks much better to me. All of these screenshots look so great.
This kind of makes me want to go back and replay the English patched version of the Nintendo DS version of Tales of Innocence. I've played both the DS version and the Vita version a few times. And the Vita version is much better. But I feel like it would be fun to re-experience the English version of the game again this way.
This is so exciting!
thedarknight87
Banned
Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light
Damn that looks pretty.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
You could use the Print Screen button on your keyboard or the Snipping Tool if you use Win7/8.
Okay. I'm using a toaster right now, so my screen resolution is actually lower than the max setting for this, but here're some print-screen comparisons of 3x rendering at least. From The Idolmaster Dearly Stars:
Looks pretty similar to the PSP game, actually!
Your images work fine on my end. How did you take them?
butman
Member
This upscale effect only applies to 3D models not sprites.
Diablohead
Member
Moon doesn't look as nice as hunters does scaled up due to the textures.
iOS had a port of the DS sonic racing (so to speak) with better textures so that upscale looks rough to me.
iOS had a port of the DS sonic racing (so to speak) with better textures so that upscale looks rough to me.
Why would you do that?
Member
I have been wondering for a while why nobody did that before, especially considering you can change the resolution in pretty much every other 3D emulator...
I love the look of some of the screens. The style of pixel art mixed with low poly 3D is really great. For example, the image from the OP:
I wish more games would have a style like that.
It also looks to work well on non-3D elements in games. Just look at Pokemon. Before, when sprites were scaled (zoomed in / out) and rotated, they would lose a lot of detail due to the DS screen's resolution. With the higher resolution, they remain sharp. See:
So yes, this is something I will totally play around with.
If you have a DS flash cartridge that allows you to hot swap (most do, IIRC), you can actually dump your DS games over wi-fi.
A good place to see how to do it, as well as other ways of dumping DS games, is here:
http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-dump-your-own-3ds-ds-games-saves.274290/
The link also mentions other methods which involve slot 2 devices (flash cards and storage that plug into your DS's GBA slot).
I love the look of some of the screens. The style of pixel art mixed with low poly 3D is really great. For example, the image from the OP:
I wish more games would have a style like that.
It also looks to work well on non-3D elements in games. Just look at Pokemon. Before, when sprites were scaled (zoomed in / out) and rotated, they would lose a lot of detail due to the DS screen's resolution. With the higher resolution, they remain sharp. See:
also this:
So yes, this is something I will totally play around with.
If you have a DS flash cartridge that allows you to hot swap (most do, IIRC), you can actually dump your DS games over wi-fi.
A good place to see how to do it, as well as other ways of dumping DS games, is here:
http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-dump-your-own-3ds-ds-games-saves.274290/
The link also mentions other methods which involve slot 2 devices (flash cards and storage that plug into your DS's GBA slot).
.:Wesker:.
Member
Lots of shaking and flickering but
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Okay. I'm using a toaster right now, so my screen resolution is actually lower than the max setting for this, but here're some print-screen comparisons of 3x rendering at least. From The Idolmaster Dearly Stars:
The artists who worked on that must have cried themselves to sleep after seeing it in the DS resolution
This is why I love emulation, for games with 3D assets and a good art direction it's essentially a way to stay beautiful forever. I have to try this myself once it gets more stable.
In other news, I just noticed this topic is now an article on Kotaku. Thought PGamer might like to know his screens are being shown there.
In other news, I just noticed this topic is now an article on Kotaku. Thought PGamer might like to know his screens are being shown there.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Do you really have to ask?
.:Wesker:.
Member
Is this going to be the new 'Will GC/Wii games look like they do in Dolphin on Wii U?'
Hell no.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
To be fair the Wii U should be capable of doing so for DS games...
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
If they added analog support (properly), it'd be the best version imo.
Should, could, but will it? How many Nintendo games have gotten boosts with their VC releases from Nintendo? Ocarina of Time's visual resolution seems to be the only one ringing in my mind.
I'm not a fan of the specific character = specific moveset option. Some of the updates are nice, but there is a lot of stuff that made it worse than the original.
Aren't all of the N64 VC games 480p? The N64 is the only 3D system they've released VC games for, and the Wii's max output was 480p, so if anything, you can say that they've upgraded 100% of applicable VC games. (I may be misremembering, but I think it was all of them.)
Infernal Monkey
Member
Goodness. The difference here is staggering.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Yeah, that's not that great, but it's not too intrusive, if you're playing as Yoshi (as I of course always did ^^), because there are the hats. I'd pay Nintendo some good money for a downloadable application allowing me to play my cart of MS64DS properly with the circle pad.
Ein Bear
Member
Every single N64 game on the Wii Virtual Console was rendered at 480p, which was an upgrade over their original resolutions on the N64 itself. I'm really curious to see how they handle DS/N64 games when they eventually hit the VC on Wii U, I honestly don't know what to expect.
.:Wesker:.
Member
Fun little football game.
Piercedveil
Member
Anybody have some gameplay shots of Animal Crossing: Wild World? It looked terrible last time I loaded it up lol. Really curious to see how it'd look emulated.
Hot damn, never heard of this game. Is it any good?This is super interesting! Took some screenshots of my own:
Phantasy Star Zero (rest in peace, NWC)
It's so good. If you loved the original Phantasy Star Online, you will love this. Same time-based combat, online and local multiplayer, tons of loot and classes/races. Good stuff. Even single player is pretty dang enjoyable.
BRocknRolla
Member
DS games not being offered in a virtual console type arrangement is just another area in which Nintendo is dropping the ball with the Wii U. There could be a flood of games from bygone systems and generations that I'd love to play on the Wii U right now, but Nintendo isn't putting in the work to make it happen. It's a damn shame.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Edit: Oops, nevermind.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I liked it well enough. I put a couple hundred hours in to Phantasy Star Online, tried to get in to Phantasy Star Universe and couldn't stand it. Phantasy Star Zero is more like PSO than PSU, and I played it to the end of singleplayer.
Unfortunately me and my friends could never get our wifi set up properly to let us go questing online much, and all of the Nintendo Wifi Connection stuff is gonna be shut down soon anyway so it won't matter.
But as a singleplayer loot-based action RPG, it's enjoyable enough. A little bit repetitive, but I think that comes with the territory.
Edit: Actually, I wrote a more detailed review here, if you're interested.
Dimentionalist
Member
Some of these look great, especially the Phantasy Star, Pokemon, and Idolm@ster screens. I wonder how Tales of Innocence looks on this with the outlines turned out? ToI looked great for a DS game.
buy teh haloz
Banned
Wow, some of these look pretty awesome actually.
If you can find a buddy, local multiplayer is always an option as well. I would really love to see the fans find a way to keep the online connection going like they did with PSO.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Can D's emulator support hd textures? I would like to see the D's pokemon gamed touched up to it's render resolution it would look sk gorgeous.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Would the DS4 be able to work for buttons and touch screen at the same time? If so, DS emulation is totally viable (outside of technical weirdness).
Skellig Gra
Member
Looks a lot better than I was expecting.
No kidding. I love low-poly at high res, and these shots are AMAZING.