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ZhugeEX · May 12, 2015

Ubisoft say they expect to Rainbow Six Siege to sell better than Far Cry 4 which sold 7 million units.

Ubisoft's AAA titles for FY2014/15 sold in more than 30 million units across Unity, Rouge, Far Cry 4, Watch Dogs and The Crew. Ubisoft expect AAA sales this year to be lower than 30m as they will not be releasing as many AAA titles + no new big IP like Watch Dogs.

BaronMonstro · May 12, 2015

Is this what the youth call, "Square Enix-ing" it?

Compsiox · May 12, 2015

Ummm no.

Lord of Castamere · May 12, 2015

Ha.

Haven't heard the best of impressions from the Alpha. Plus it's releasing next to Battlefront/BLOPS3 still right?...

RIP R6 Franchise.

t0rment · May 12, 2015

good luck with that.

kmax · May 12, 2015

In the near future

Ubisoft: Rainbow Six failed to meet its sales target.

Please understand.

strafer · May 12, 2015

good luck

iNvid02 · May 12, 2015

against battlefront and blops 3? i dont see it, even if the shooter audience is thirsty you're going against blops 3 and star wars

BluenoseGames · May 12, 2015

BaronMonstro said:
Is this what the youth call, "Square Enix-ing" it?

It's a disappointment

samuraidino · May 12, 2015

Rainbow six million sales below expectations.

ZhugeEX · May 12, 2015

BaronMonstro said:
Is this what the youth call, "Square Enix-ing" it?

Yes.

They say as it's a multiplayer game they expect repeat sales and extended lifetime sales.

They make it clear that this is lifetime sales target and not FY sales target.

Prologue · May 12, 2015

Maybe it would have been better to have The Division in Q4 of this year and Rainbow 6 in Q1 of 2016. We already have Black Ops 2, Battlefront and Halo 5 this Q4. Rainbow is obviously a different kind of shooter than those titles, but it needs room to breathe and attract new players. A Q1 release would have given a nice boost to the player population during a typical gaming drought season.

Steveo · May 12, 2015

What number of copies did the highest selling Rainbow Six title do?

I know RS3 sold very well, but not 7 million well. If the game is very good, I can see it reaching that goal, just might take a bit of time...

Cidd · May 12, 2015

Better lower that by around 60% or you're in for a shock Ubisoft...

Briarios · May 12, 2015

I don't see this happening, unless they put it on PS+ and count that as sales.

Nirolak · May 12, 2015

While 7 million is slightly more reasonable than 10 million a la Far Cry 3, this is very optimistic.

RoboPlato · May 12, 2015

They're releasing it against Halo 5, Blops 3, and Battlefront. Good luck.

Welfare · May 12, 2015

Probably expecting a big launch due to a pent up want for a new R6 game from fans and hoping the game will have good legs.

7 million is still a lot with Halo 5, BO3, and Battlefront releasing as well.

Koh · May 12, 2015

At $5 maybe.

I can't imagine this game doing multimillion out of the gate, but that's just based on anecdotal frame of reference.

Reebot · May 12, 2015

In what context did they say this? Was it more of an optimistic hope or a real expectation?

Really hope for the former.

Chobel · May 12, 2015

They still plan to release it this Fall? If so, then I don't see this 7 millions figure happening.

bombshell · May 12, 2015

Did they hire Pachter to make this expectation?

algert · May 12, 2015

Ubisoft multiplayer is P2P and Siege alpha was a copy paste of the same netcode. Good luck hitting 7 with the PC audience disenfranchised right out the gate, Montreal.

Welfare · May 12, 2015

Chobel said:
They still plan to release it this Fall? If so, then I don't see this 7 millions figure happening.

Yes it's still planned for this holiday.

IvanJ · May 12, 2015

Well, they seem very optimistic. To me, this title screams: Bomb!, especially when confronted with CoD, Halo, Star Wars...

BeforeU · May 12, 2015

Nah, dont see it happening. It will sell good but 7m sounds way too high.

Its a tactical shooter, meant to play it with group of friends. Not casual, where you pick and play.

ScatheZombie · May 12, 2015

ZhugeEX said:
Yes.

They say as it's a multiplayer game they expect repeat sales and extended lifetime sales.

They make it clear that this is lifetime sales target and not FY sales target.

Right. But the LTD sales for Vegas and Vegas 2 are only like 2m-3m units (individually). Going from ~2m to +7m is essentially guaranteeing failure and disappointment.

For reference, +7m sales for Siege would be about 1/4 of the total LTD sales (~26m) for all Rainbox Six games combined.

farisr · May 12, 2015

Doubt it.

liquidtmd · May 12, 2015

BaronMonstro said:
Is this what the youth call, "Square Enix-ing" it?

Indeed

* Sells 5 million, Ubi post DisaaaappppoinntedSorbo.gifs all over their earnings briefings

NumberThree · May 12, 2015

samuraidino said:
Rainbow six million sales below expectations.

Well done.

Dysun · May 12, 2015

Game seems like it will have a content problem surrounding a good idea ala Titanfall or Evolve. Doubt it hits that target

Rosur · May 12, 2015

lol Ubisoft... Really :/

I really doubt this is gonna get more than 2 mill it just seems too tactical for the fans of COD/ BF to get into and with Battlefront coming out around the same time most Gamers will be going for that (unless they make Siege F2P).I can see the 7mill being lifetime sales if the game turns out good and has legs.

Mass_Pincup · May 12, 2015

I think that it's a bit to much, 4M would be more reasonable in my opinion.

R3TRODYCE · May 12, 2015

The alpha was great but I don't know about 7 mill.

ZhugeEX · May 12, 2015

ScatheZombie said:
Right. But the LTD sales for Vegas and Vegas 2 are only like 2m-3m units (individually). Going from ~2m to +7m is essentially guaranteeing failure and disappointment.

For reference, +7m sales for Siege would be about 1/4 of the total LTD sales (~26m) for all Rainbox Six games combined.

They said last title sold 3 million or something.

dex3108 · May 12, 2015

Difference from Far Cry is that R6 will be supported longer with multiplayer content according to Conference Call.

Storm Raider · May 12, 2015

samuraidino said:
Rainbow six million sales below expectations.

Ded
Crine

MMaRsu · May 12, 2015

Maybe if you put in a hardcore mode and launch it for 10 bucks

Siege is not Vegas either.

Welfare · May 12, 2015

ZhugeEX said:
They said last title sold 3 million or something.

The last title was a phone game. The one before that was Vegas 2, so maybe that sold 3 million.

Leafhopper · May 12, 2015

Isn't the game going to be in direct competition with CS:GO at this point? The game looks fun and all but 7 million seems like a stretch.

Trogdor1123 · May 12, 2015

7 million? Really? I cant even imagine where they are getting these numbers from.

Euron · May 12, 2015

Not if they're releasing it up against Battlefront, Black Ops 3, and Halo 5, as well as their own Assassin's Creed Syndicate. It will do ok this fall but nothing remarkable.

Nuke Soda · May 12, 2015

I am disappointed Ubi, why not 10 million? Hell they should sell at least 10 million on Day 1.

Zoned · May 12, 2015

Star Wars and BLOPS 3 will put this game in coffin Day 1.

R1CHO · May 12, 2015

The Ubisoft bubble.

Leafhopper · May 12, 2015

Euron Crow's Eye said:
Not if they're releasing it up against Battlefront, Black Ops 3, and Halo 5, as well as their own Assassin's Creed Syndicate. It will do ok this fall but nothing remarkable.

Zoned said:
Star Wars and BLOPS 3 will put this game in coffin Day 1.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the first release date of Siege was Spring 2015 when they showed it E3 last year?

I think if it was already out or something it would do better.

It coming out in the fall might have doomed this thing.

jacksepticeye · May 12, 2015

Be surprised if they sold half that to be honest

Garlador · May 12, 2015

Unless they start packing the game in with every major system, those are hilariously unreasonable expectations.

I should really consider a career in video game analysis.
"You should totally expect The Division to sell 8 million copies. The Devil's Third needs to sell at least 10 million. No, you shouldn't settle for less than 30 million sold for Assassin's Creed: Syndicate."

motorised mallard · May 12, 2015

That is a lot of bundled copies.

zma1013 · May 12, 2015

I think Ubisoft needs to climb a high tower so they can scout the competition from afar to better predict what their actual sales will be.

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