Yea I feel the same, it's easier getting more out of this hardware than what you could with the PS3, it's definitely not akin to U1, I believe you are right and this is already pushing the limits and games won't look much better than this (in such scale at least, maybe "The Order 2" or next QD's game will surpass it but not with such scale), still it's looking incredible and I'm more than fine to "settle" on this level for the rest of the gen.
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Digital Foundry: Uncharted 4 pushes PS4 tech to the next level (E3 demo analysis)
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Yea I feel the same, it's easier getting more out of this hardware than what you could with the PS3, it's definitely not akin to U1, I believe you are right and this is already pushing the limits and games won't look much better than this (in such scale at least, maybe "The Order 2" or next QD's game will surpass it but not with such scale), still it's looking incredible and I'm more than fine to "settle" on this level for the rest of the gen.
SnowFlakeCake
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Really impressive looking game, if this is the peak from the PS4 I'm more than happy. As some have said the prettiest games on PS3 came from Santa Monica, for me they were ahead of everyone else by quite a distance. At least graphically, I can't see anything other than Barlogs PS4 God of War game being the prettiest thing on consoles.
SSM are giants when it comes to tech, ND are good but a step below for sure.
SSM are giants when it comes to tech, ND are good but a step below for sure.
What does this even mean? You really think that they won't find ways to code more efficiently?
The PS4 uses specialized API & a custom-built GPU (It's weak in terms of raw power, but has features from high end GPUs), & most exclusives use an engine tailored for that hardware, which is one of the main reasons exclusives look & run better than multiplats.
hydrophilic attack
Member
I mean. DF is usually very thorough with their analyses. I'm sure that if the game had implemented AF, they would have noticed it.
If even ND is having problems with AF on PS4, that's surely cause for concern.
Like what?
Given everything they have said, it just looks like a GCN1.1 GPU with a CU count in between the 7870 and 7850.
StrongBlackVine
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Hopefully Sony first/second party studios are competing and sharing tech. I think Quantic Dream's new game will blow minds.
piccio_ssl
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family_guy
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Doesn't really matter. All things equal, it's the game engine that counts. You got games like Alien Isolation that use a custom built engine that run at 70+ fps on those kinds of PC specs.
This is not logical.
GI is baked in U4 too.
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Probably, because its irrelevant.
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The most impressive tech in U4 from their presentation hands down. Their animation system is superb.
"Given everything they have said"
Yep, it looks like that if you see it via PC only goggles.
You don't really know anything.
I sure do not too.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
So much "concern" for a console that has the prettiest games out there.
I am more than satisfied with the graphics produced by the PS4 thus far. Some of the games like Horizon, The Order 1886 and this game look as good or better than anything out there in my eyes
TheExecutive
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Exciting thing is that build is probably 9 months before release... Or more.
MaximusPayne
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Can't wait to see what they do with TLoU2...
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Zombie James
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Uncharted 4 is hands-down the best looking game out there right now, IMHO. No game's doing what U4 is doing.
Well...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_technical_specifications#Graphics_processing_unit
Well...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_technical_specifications#Graphics_processing_unit
But there's AF, it's pretty evident in the gamersyde video. And by your logic they would mention it also if it wasn't there. I don't understand your baseless concern.
Mister Megative
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Amazing how far they've come from Crash Bandicoot. I remember watching the UC4 E3 demo and thinking "My God. How does it look THIS good? Sorcery? A virgin sacrifice to P'thuh? How???"
InsaneTiger
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No need to stir up a conspiracy. I am sure the game will be fine. It still has over 6 months of development.
PLASTICA-MAN
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That is what I think too. I am sure GOW4 will look betetr than anything shown in video games when first shown (that is why Sony is keeping it so much in secrecy while they showed almost everything else). Then another Unhcraterd or TLOU will come and it will top that and then anotehr GOW and the cycle continues.
PLASTICA-MAN
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No one can confirm that yet for the whole game, but at leats the cave part has dynmaic GI.
I think one of those things is GPGPU. there are 8 ACE's. They will start later heavy use of gpgpu. As cerny said.
PLASTICA-MAN
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and each ACE has 8 CUs which means 64 CUs in sum. ND stated that they are mimicking the CELL SPU's behaviour with those ACEs. A great way to implemeent such complex physics.
It looks good enough and with a much bigger scale and everything really, it's not like we are talking about an average looking game, it looks incredible and it's so much more impressive than TO it's not even a contest.
funkystudent
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After the 60fps switcharoo from ND I am super sceptical of the overall performance of this demo. Who knows what it was running on.
Looks nice though. I hope the final game looks this good and runs that smooth.
lol.
Looks nice though. I hope the final game looks this good and runs that smooth.
lol.
Goodacre0081
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I'm starting to think ND might be getting too good/big for Sony to handle. what is the possibility that they go third party like Bungie did?
It was a live demo. The roots of them targeting 60 fps for some time is evident in the near locked 30 fps ~9 months from release. They are still targeting 60 fps for the MP, so it's not like they've completely given up on such a target, only for the set-piece heavy SP.
Sony isn't locking down ND from creating other IP's. Big difference w/ Bungie where MS wanted to make them a Halo studio.
ND wanted to create TLOU and Sony let them. MS in the same situation would have not.
Adding dynamic GI on top of the baked layer of GI is easy, just handle it as an additional 'lightsource' and it works.
TLoU used reflective shadow maps and lowres buffer for bounced light and composite pass, really hope they will use something more refined in U4.
Mmmm, love me some well implemented motion blur.
I can't wait to see what ND has in store for us with Uncharted 4.
Sony owns the studio so there are only two possible, but unlikely scenarios: 1) Sony allows them to buy their studio back 2) The higher ups and most of their top talent leave ND to form their own studio.
Both are far fetched for the time being.
I can't wait to see what ND has in store for us with Uncharted 4.
Sony owns the studio so there are only two possible, but unlikely scenarios: 1) Sony allows them to buy their studio back 2) The higher ups and most of their top talent leave ND to form their own studio.
Both are far fetched for the time being.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Yeah. I agree.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Anyone can guess the exact release date of Uncharted 4? Normally Uncharted games get released around November while GOW games around March. If they plan for an October or November 2016 release, the game should be the most polished game ever made.
Zombie James
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Q1 2016, so between January 1st and March 31st.
I love it when people think Naughty Dog is keeping a working PC build just to deceive people at E3, unless you imply that it might be running on multiple PS4's (if not for running on PC's)
piccio_ssl
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It was delayed from its normal October-November holiday slot to "Spring 2016", although at E3 it was a generic "2016", whatever that means.
Seems unlikely. Obviously the key people can leave and set up a new studio anytime they want, or they could attempt to "buy out" the ND studio name. But...
They seem to have creative freedom, are essentially the premier Sony 1st party studio, are very successful but with the safety net of Sony behind them and ultimately they're focus is console and they work on the console that 3 out of 4 generations was the market leader.
So nah I don't see them trying to part ways anytime soon.
One technical article on Uncharted and then all of the sudden there's concern of ND leaving Sony?
If Wells/Balestra seriously said "we want to go third party" I'm pretty sure Shuhei and Andrew would tell them to take a hike.
Bungie bailed out because they weren't allowed to make anything other than Halo. So they went to Activision to make a crappy Halo-Borderlands MMO. ND is in a very different position.
Slickest psuedo-port beg ever or I am genuinely interested on just how did you come to this conclusion?
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
The only thing that disappointed me was the water splash effect when the car went through it.
This was my reaction when I saw the water coming up:
I always dislike it when they leave out PC in these statements. UC4 also tops everything on PC.
This was my reaction when I saw the water coming up:
I always dislike it when they leave out PC in these statements. UC4 also tops everything on PC.
Naughty Dog is very happy with their current situation, they get creative freedom & they get big marketing campaigns from Sony. Do you think UC3 would have sold 10+ million or TLOU 8+ million without big marketing campaigns from Sony, even if the games were multiplat?
95% of third party multiplatform games sell worse than ND's games, multiplatform doesn't automatically mean better sales or more creative freedom, if ND worked with Activision they'd be an Uncharted factory.
LOL, this is ridiculous. You can clearly see that there's AF in the demo. You don't have to be told by someone that there is. You can just look at it.