RustyNails
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You know what hurts us? Playing nice. Things have changed. Fuck all of them.
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Reports on Russian connections to Trump [Summaries in OP] #GoldenShowers
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Fuck them, let them get burned, you tried to act decent with indecent people and this is what happens. I hope this dossier is true, but if its not or nothing happens, Trump presidency will still have that monkey on his back.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I don't even think it is low blows. There are active investigations taking place looking into this. From blackmail, to active relationship with Putin, to members of his team meeting with the kremlin, etc etc, this isn't just about a Golden shower in a Moscow hotel. This is the Comey letter times 10. There's like 20 layers of scandal to this, whereas the Comey letter was found out pretty quick it was from a device Hilary didn't even own so likely were duplicates.
This. All the fucking way.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
If now isn't the time to fight like it's our last stand, then it never will be.
Fuck the IC is telling Israel to not share state secrets with Trump's team because it may end up in Russian, then Iranian hands. There is more than enough smoke and circumstantial evidence to treat this seriously.
The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia stated his nation bankrolled 20% of Hillary's campaign.
This is all fine and dandy if it works out, but if it turns out you've overplayed your hand and none of these accusations get verified you are just hurting your own cause out of spite.
At least they seem friendly.
I looked them up on Wikipedia. GAF's favorite host Tomi Lahren had a show there before she left for The Blaze. Sarah Palin was her replacement host.
BronsonLee
Member
nah not really, I'll just skate away scot-free and then find something else to put Trump in a garbage can for
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
At least they seem friendly.
Haha That's terrifying. Whatever combination of things over the years of my life that provided me critical thinking skills, I thank them every day for making my skin crawl the second I see shit like this.
Pretty much.
Democrats need to get their shit together instead of trying to be nice guys with the republicans.
We should be more constructive like appoint a Republican head of the FBI. What a fucking great idea that was.
They should have gone scorched Earth from the start and to top it off had Ginsburg and Breyer both resign so they could be replaced early and have the bench refreshed. But no. Let's play nice. Let's be constructive. A total fucking disaster when the other party does not even give a semblance of giving a single fuck.
Republicans have overplayed their hand constantly and consistently. They won. It doesn't matter.
If you don't think that would have long term consequences in terms of helping trump and deletigitimizing his mainstream critics you are naive.
BronsonLee
Member
nah bitch I am woke, we can put you in the bin too if you want
in case it wasn't obvious, I'm not really being serious
What were the consequences for BENGHAZI EMAILS PLUTONIUM AIDS RAPE HILLARY DYING MUSLIM BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Oh, right. They got in power. On every fucking level.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Well, looks like I found the slogan on my protest sign in DC next Friday!
Never saw this, didn't realize Brad's character in this was so 12 Monkeys like.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
I saw memes on facebook and news about that stuff all real. You see what Bill did on the plane.
Got in power cause it is the truth.
Killer Queen
Banned
I'm starting to feel similarly tbh
Mortimer Brewster
Member
Hell there were allegations that she was running pay to play schemes with the Russians when she was Secretary of State. I say use this Trump investigation as an opportunity to look into those allegations and all the Saudi allegations involving the Clinton's and Bush's. If there is proof that illegal foreign influence has occurred it must be rooted out and any administration involved should be made an example out of whether it be Trump, Obama, Shrub, Clinton or those two old coots Bush Sr and Carter.
How can you say shit like this with a straight face? We can see the money trail and he is chatting shit.
krümelmonster
Neo Member
By rioting in the streets, kidnapping and severely hurting mentally disabled whites?
BrutishMrFish
Member
Over half of Republican voters still think Obama is a secret Muslim. Half of them think Trump won the popular vote. Slightly less than half of them believe in fucking Pizzagate.
The Republicans' narratives feed themselves regardless of how true they are. Their credibility wasn't hurt at all despite being proven wrong every time.
Killer Queen
Banned
Is this really where you want to take this? Starting to show your true colors huhkrümelmonster;228345453 said:
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
krümelmonster;228345453 said:
Da fuck is this!?
Yeah, in the end noble defeats don't help anyone or advance progressive causes. You can pat yourself on the back for "going high" and feel good about yourself, but the other guys are going to be the ones enacting policies that affect our lives.
GutsOfThor
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The new political reality in which we find ourselves in DEMANDS this!
Look at what going high accomplished. It got us absolutely nowhere! We lost everything
DragonSworne
Banned
Yes, let's keep giving Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Holy shit at anyone fucking comparing Trump's scandals with emails and all the other bullshit the right spew out and pull out of their ass on Hillary and Democrats.
Isn't that, like, the worst possible thing they could do?
krümelmonster
Neo Member
I'm just fucking with you
If anything, this should be a lesson to Congress to pass stronger transparency laws into money in politics and PACs. And force future presidents to release taxes/income/holdings to prevent appearances and conflicts of interest.
DragonSworne
Banned
The Republican narrative feeds itself.
It's not constructive to aid and abet Republicans and Trump and giving them wins across every single branch of government. What you suggest plays right into Republican hands.
Literally the first thing the House voted on last week was a weakening of ethics laws
Killer Queen
Banned
I don't feel they're anywhere near on the same level and obviously ones incredibly dangerous and one is not but I feel that throwing all your eggs in a basket right now before anything is proven will only hurt is later on.
If nothing comes of this people will use it as an example of "remember when the Dems said Trump was a Russian plant and they were wrong.gif?" When something worse happens later down the line.
I'm not saying it is crying wolf, but it definitely seems that way to many, as unfortunate as that is. Though I'm also not saying that we should give up this angle of attack either. Just tread lightly before it potentially bites us in the ass later.
LegendofJoe
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I'd really like to see this happen, but I won't hold my breath.
I hate being sleazy, but there is no one at all screaming "REMEMBER WHEN HILLARY KILLED PEOPLE AT BENGHAZI? OH WAIT THAT NEVER HAPPENED AND THE COMMITTEES FOUND NOTHING. NOTHING."
No one.
At all.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Democrats need to do this the minute they get control of the government again.
DragonSworne
Banned
There is absolutely zero chance Trump is not working for Putin, so your hypothetical is nonsensical.
The most likely scenario will be "Rember when Republicans backed and defended a Russian puppet?" and their response will be "at least we didn't have Hillary as President, lololol butt hurt dems, emails, she lied, Benghazi died".
BrutishMrFish
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The same with Obama's birth certificate. And Pizzagate. And voter fraud. And the fake video that Republicans used to destroy ACORN. And all of Trump's lies and those of his surrogates throughout his campaign.
Republicans have spread so much bullshit and they're still seen as being credible. If Democrats can't do the same without getting hurt, it's because they falter and let themselves get hurt.
Killer Queen
Banned
It doesn't matter if it's true or not and whether or not it's true isn't what I'm arguing. It's whether it ends up being proven or not and whether anything comes of the investigation. Nothing is assured, you should've learned that from this past election and by putting all your eggs in this basket if in the event that nothing comes of this you're only giving more ammunition for the opposition to discredit you in the future.
Whether we can out it enough is the concern.
BronsonLee
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There's nothing worse than this. So what if's for any future Trump scandals is pointless.
You assign 0% chance to the probability that Trump is not a Russian agent? I would think you'd need some actual non circumstantial evidence before that kind of confidence makes sense.
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