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Yooka-Laylee Patch: Fixing camera & performance issues
- Thread starter themagicalkitsune
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They added creativity in a Day 1 patch?
Using that logic, we should wait until next year for Andromeda reviews, and five years from now for Nintendo Switch reviews
Since the game has a physical release, it's likely that the game went gold quite a while ago, so they will have been working on this patch since then. Pretty much the same as any other day one patch.
Secret Fawful
Member
This is literally their first game with Unity and their first 3D platformer in YEARS so they may be using this as a means to test what people want now, and what they need to change.
Seems so. Now I wonder if some reviewers will change their scores.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Yes, that would be my point. The modern gaming scene is super impulsive and has zero long-term perspective. I mean FFS, the Yooka-Laylee reviews are going to be off before the goddamn game even comes out.
SlasherJPC
Banned
This game has design decisions that are not going to be fixed with a patch. Most of the things they are fixing they already mentioned in the review emails. This isn't some patch due to review reception.
Labrynian Rebel
Member
Better get things fixed before the Switch version.
Secret Fawful
Member
Eh, you didn't list anything I wouldn't like.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Good. I will buy once the camera is fixed.
SlasherJPC
Banned
That's fine. I'm sure most people will really enjoy this game. I'm just stomping the idea of this being a reaction to reviews type of patch, it's not.
ScientificPizza
Banned
I hope it's good by the time the Switch version eventually gets released
That's kind of how all reviews work. It's not the reviewers fault if the game has issues on launch. I mean as a game funded by backers, if Playtonic needed more time they almost certainly could have gotten it? I don't think their publishers would breath down their necks to rush it out now rather than in say May.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Do you guys think Switch version will launch this month?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Not at all. They aren't going to announce the release date and then just release it right after. They have to have some time to market it.
Likely not. I don't know anything, but my guess would be mid-to-late summer since it was only announced recently.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Smh
Im buying the xbox one version then. I cant wait that long I was wanting this game for awhile...March of the Crabs
Member
Well it's ready now and it hasn't launched so it's on time. Early embargo was a weird choice.
thatJohann
Member
Has anyone even seen footage of the Switch version?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Thanks for beta testing the game journalists.
Father_Brain
Banned
I would be extremely surprised if that were Switch footage, given that much less technically demanding Unity games like Bomberman, Setsuna, and Mr. Shifty can't even reach 60fps.
That footage is not 60fps.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Yeah even going by this thread title and reviews the game is not a constant 60 fps unfortunately
Father_Brain
Banned
I can tell. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but what I meant was that it's running at a smooth 30fps while appearing to look virtually identical to the PC/PS4/XB1 versions in visual quality, which is vastly more than any other Unity game on the system is doing.
I mean if it's not Switch footage they're basically lying.
It's the only port being handled in house and it's obviously taking a lot of extra time. Late is one thing, but late and still jank is another, so I'm assuming they want to get this one right.
I'm thinking the patch helped a lot. Just installed on my regular Xbox One (haven't tried it yet) but I've been playing a lot on Xbox One S and it's very fluid for the most part (well, fluid for 30fps).
The only areas where I'm able to drop the frame is when placing the camera within alpha effects such as flames - that kills performance. Other than that, it has been very stable. That GameXplain video, which showcases many of the same areas I've been playing, highlights performance far worse than anything I've encountered. None of those massive pauses or hitches have occurred at all even after hours of playing.
We'll see how it holds up on my OG Xbox One, though. Maybe it's terrible on there but smooth on Xbox One S?
Covering this game is tricky because I'm hearing all these complaints but...it runs quite well on consoles. I never expected 60fps here as it's a large scale Unity game (not that it would be impossible but...that's a tall order). This is one of the best optimized Unity console games I've played as of late. You don't get that buttery smooth performance of Inside or Assault Android Cactus, mind you, but the game is so different and of a larger scale so I think it's acceptable.
The only areas where I'm able to drop the frame is when placing the camera within alpha effects such as flames - that kills performance. Other than that, it has been very stable. That GameXplain video, which showcases many of the same areas I've been playing, highlights performance far worse than anything I've encountered. None of those massive pauses or hitches have occurred at all even after hours of playing.
We'll see how it holds up on my OG Xbox One, though. Maybe it's terrible on there but smooth on Xbox One S?
Covering this game is tricky because I'm hearing all these complaints but...it runs quite well on consoles. I never expected 60fps here as it's a large scale Unity game (not that it would be impossible but...that's a tall order). This is one of the best optimized Unity console games I've played as of late. You don't get that buttery smooth performance of Inside or Assault Android Cactus, mind you, but the game is so different and of a larger scale so I think it's acceptable.
I'm a little skeptical as well but we'll see. The PS4/XO versions were ported by Team 17 but Playtonic is handling the Switch port on its own.
LOL also Breath of the Wild is 117% after patch.
If that was the case we would have known. I don't see the Switch version being released before June, actually I expect if after July.
TheMagician
Member
John at Digital Foundry has commented on the experience. Interesting.
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/849881110054137857
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/849881110054137857
DieNgamers
Member
He also likes the game itself. I wonder how much difference that patch makes overall. Not that I care so much (full N64-expectation-mode here) but given the fact that I get to play the superior PC version there shouldn't be any problems from the get go.
1440p, 60fps here I come!
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Well he backed down from that "overblown" word pretty fast lol
Glad to hear that the patch seemingly has improved things, some of those videos looked super rough
TheMagician
Member
He 'backed down' just because he doesn't want to dispute that some people ever had issues at all.
His own experience isn't mirroring there's which is the important part.
Sniffynose
Member
I agree especially when a lot of reviewers griped about the camera and performance issues. Sorta sucks having them lose potential sales over something they were clearly working on and will likely have ironed out before the actual release date hits.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
It'd be weird if he disputed it considering it's on video. He just realized he didn't use the best word
They could've easily put notes with the review packs stating that the camera issues were being addressed. Reviews would have then been able to mention this.
Reviewers are not phychic and has to report what they saw. I'm glad the camera issues are being addressed as for a platformer that's a big stumbling block.
If anything, a week gap between review and release is a good thing if it means issues that affect the game are addressed before release!
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!
"Allegedly"
Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM
Also:
DieNgamers
Member
So Team 17 ported the game on consoles, right?
What version of the game are you getting?
What version of the game are you getting?
Exactly.
It's clear as day that they had issues in that review but I have not been able to replicate those problems at all. The game is running great (and I didn't run into those hitches or pauses pre-patch either).
Basically, it seems to me that there is something up with the Xbox One or this is related to an issue I've suspected with Xbox One where performance is inconsistent between different machines.
For instance, I was getting 34 second load times in Snake Pass on both of my Xbox systems yet others are getting less than 20 seconds. Why? It doesn't make any sense since we were using internal drives included with the system.
Which makes me wonder if there is something else going on outside of the games themselves.
I've literally just put four hours into the game on Xbox One and have only found exactly one area where the game slowed down (when you put the camera into the flames). I got one tiny hitch during the arcade racing game too. Other than that, it is a locked 30fps.
...but you can't dispute that GameXplain ran into performance issues since it is on video either.
So, when covering it, I'm going to mention that some folks have had a bad experience but that, in our testing, the game runs very consistently on Xbox One with slowdown focused entirely on alpha overdraw killing the GPU in select circumstances. I'm still playing, though, and continuing to capture - I'm hunting for slowdown right now.
Of course, the patch is installed now and, although it was already pretty good prior to that patch, it seems basically perfect now.
He also commented three posts above yours.
I only have an OG Xbox One but I swear there's times when games misbehave at random depending on when I last rebooted it, if I have used lots of other apps and whether the moon is full.
For a fixed platform I've seen variation in performance that is a bit inexplicable at times! I almost wish I went for the Xbox version just to see this for myself but the patch along with the fact I didn't own an Xbox One when I backed the Kickstarter precluded this.
That's an interesting point.
Before FPS testing, I always make sure to reboot my Xbox One just in case as I have also encountered weird crashes or other issues when I don't. Maybe related to suspend mode? Either way, the system does seem somewhat unstable.
I'd be curious to know if those having issues had freshly rebooted their Xbox?
Haven't played Yooka Laylee but based on Snake Pass it would seem devs making these 2000s-era retro 3D platform games are leaving the camerawork to the same era's standards. I wish I didn't have to be constantly managing it myself in SP, especially given the little bird flits to the areas you should be looking at, so they could have had the camera subtly turn towards those.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Could you comment on the PS4 version at all? Or you might not be testing that one
Do you have any input on the camera pre and post patch? Is it much better?