Jonneh3003
Banned
Well put. For me the lack of iconic Team ICO lighting is a let down but all of your points resonate with me.
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Shadow of the Colossus Trailer PS4 (E3 2017)
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It's really annoying that Sony has Shadow of the Colossus locked up as an enticement to try PSNow. Granted, I would say that the experience of playing a slightly laggy SotC on a Vita is akin to watching Citizen Kane on DVD -- neither is ideal ;-) But I can see not wanting to put up with a shaky network connection, or simply the price, which is high for something that just streams PS3 games ...
The thing about SotC is that it's not just a really impressive boss rush game. It's one of the few games that aspires to, and arguably succeeds at, being art. And while there are always hard choices to be made between making art and making art accessible to people, I'm not sure that this is the best approach to bringing Shadow of the Colossus to a wider audience. Ymmv, of course, and I hope that you get a game that is as emotionally moving to you as it was to me. I'm glad that I got to experience Team Ico's version, though, and I hope that their version will be available to people who want to play it in the future.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It's specifically to allow me to play the game again since my PS2 no longer works.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
And also because I stopped playing PS3 around the time the remaster was released. It's a brilliant game that deserves some 60fps/4K love. Here's hoping it is 60fps.
I'm glad this is happening but I'm not exactly head over heels for it. I'm more excited for what Ueda does next more so than playing SotC in a nicer upgraded quality. Still it's cool to have the game on tent PS4 for new people to experience.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I'll wait for the 3rd remaster on PS5.
HueyFreeman
Banned
I dunno man - I was at the store day 1 for Ico, and had been reading about it since it's original reveal. I've owned every game day 1 since - My team Ico cred is as deep as they come ;b This version of the game won't instantly vaporize your prior copy of the game and if you really feel offended by it, you don't need to play it. I think it really does preserve the art and it looks like they have used the same animations which is my biggest concern.
I totally get the concern, but ultimately I think this is a gift for series fans and BP has never shown anything other than utter reverence and complete understanding of SOTC and Ico with their remaster work.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Why so much negativity? This looks truly incredible, and for someone who has never played the game like myself, really exciting. I don't see any reason why this project is a bad thing.
jim2point0
Banned
I still can't believe this is actually happening, my favorite game of all time getting the remake treatment and looking this good! But man the negativity here is disheartening.
This is pretty much my experience on this forum with everything I've ever been excited about
I played it. Loved it. Would likely never play it again but this is giving me a reason to. And I have friends who have never played it before but are now considering it. So it's a win-win.
yeah, for me sure it looks that they are doing the same kind of work Modern Warfare and Crash N.Sane Trilogy got, same geometry with brand new assets and new models
If they still have some of the prototype and geometry for the cut colossi, I could see them finishing them and adding that to the game, maybe thats where Japan Studio comes in too.
If they still have some of the prototype and geometry for the cut colossi, I could see them finishing them and adding that to the game, maybe thats where Japan Studio comes in too.
I can definitely understand wanting the Ico version to exist, mostly untouched, on future machines. Sony's lack of backwards compatibility to bolster PSNow is disappointing. I would have bought SotC instantly if they had released it as PSClassic, and it'd be nice if they did that. Nintendo still released Majora's Mask and Xenoblade Chronicles for the Wii U Virtual Console, even after making versions for the 3DS. Hopefully at some point Sony will do this, but I have my doubts.
And I would love to watch a real reel of Citizen Kane someday. I saw Paths of Glory and a black and white Cary Grant film whose name I can't recall, both through an actual projector, and they were glorious
Omnistalgic
Member
completely disagree...Visuals look very faithful to the original and better yet, should fix the awful frame rate issues.
Looks great, game is great, more people will play it. Not all change is bad, BP have a great track record and I think you guys are just being overly concerned, as usual lol '-)
Nocturnowl
Member
Not giving the trailer too close a look the only thing that felt noticeably off to me was Wander not having quite as strong as a weighty sway to his movements which is like the Ueda tradition.
Otherwise, it's an odd thing to be revamped/remastered/remade once more but it's still my favourite Sony title so I'm in. If the original had the framerate woes and the PS3 remaster had issues rising from the increase in framerate (stop shaking!) then hopefully this time we'll get the best edition across the board.
Otherwise, it's an odd thing to be revamped/remastered/remade once more but it's still my favourite Sony title so I'm in. If the original had the framerate woes and the PS3 remaster had issues rising from the increase in framerate (stop shaking!) then hopefully this time we'll get the best edition across the board.
Based Calla
Member
This feels like an apology for The Last Guardian taking so long.
Omnistalgic
Member
Dude, subscribe to threads and pick your communities. GAF is almost like twitter now, negativity is the spice that seasons this place during popular gaming times.I still can't believe this is actually happening, my favorite game of all time getting the remake treatment and looking this good! But man the negativity here is disheartening.
You just have to have perspective mate. Destiny was/is hot garbage according to so much of GAF and it's sequel looks like an afterthought expansion of more of the same. Yet, it is one of, if not THE most successful and adored new IP released this gen with an insane community of dedicated players. Here's some of the lines of reasoning I've sharply disagreed with GAF on, with stats, communities, and sales that fly in the exact opposite direction of popular opinion here.
-Destiny is a trash, do the same thing over and over, loot game
-SFV is garbage, no modes and few characters
-Sony has no games, how is PS4 selling
-Switch is overpriced and DOA
-Mid-gen upgrades are terrible, I don't want a new console yet bad precedent
-Mid-gen upgrades are amazing, but Sony is half-assin it!
-4K disc playback and B/C are 'MEGATONS'....seriously, who even coined that phrase?
-Horizon's concern threads, going to be generic and lacks 'soul'
-Breath of the Wild is the best thing ever in the industry Just a great game to me, enjoying MK8 more tbh...
-etc...
No one wants to play old games that look like old games. Given the choice, would you rather pop in your PS2 disc of SotC into your PS4 or get this remake that takes advantage of the hardware both in terms of visuals and performance?
John Kowalski
Banned
Argh, this incessant reworking of old games is tiring
mattwhite924
Member
Depends on how the new one plays.
Hopefully it's not a situation like Mario 1 on Mario All-Stars. Where yeah it looked better, but how it played felt off. I don't think it will be, but my point is that there are times when the older, uglier game is the better one.
Books are rereleased all the time. Movies are remade all the time. Why shouldn't a masterpiece be rereleased for a new generation?
Are they like holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it or something?
HueyFreeman
Banned
This is the best horse in gaming.
I really hope they touch absolutely nothing about the controls or animation systems. This should be a graphical upgrade only. Just ensure it's the grip system that the US version originally shipped with and all will be well.
More_Badass
Member
That's about as ridiculous as saying people don't want to watch old movies when you can put in a full color 4K HD movie. Older doesn't equal worse, more advanced visuals doesn't equal better
Rereleasing something and remaking something are two entirely different things. Do I want to watch a rerelease of Oldboy or Robocop? Sure. Do I want to watch the remakes? Fuck no
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
SoTC is one of the best games ever made. Can't wait to play it with vastly improved graphics.
Ps2 game. Probably won't even buy this.
I have the same concerns.
I'm convinced Bluepoint won't touch the actual game at all, but its ability to preserve that depends on how much (if any) of the PS2 code base is there. That's why I'm wondering if it's actually 2017 art assets bolted on top of the old 2005 engine, like Halo. I'd personally prefer that, but that comes with its own drawbacks like animation and such.
Visually what I've seen seems faithful but I'm not 100% convinced yet. Part of the problem is issues inherently come up when you try to add 2017 asset detail to 2005 art direction. This isn't going to look completely like a PS4 game. I would not have minded a simple 4K remaster. It would be like a classic movie being re-released on 4K Blu-Ray. Part of me has always wanted something like this too though. Colossus was a game released in-between eras of gaming. It was always a bit too much for its original platform to handle, and the PS3 version is stuck on PS3.
More_Badass
Member
Because those movies suck, not merely because they're remakes. The actual concept of a remake isn't inherently bad
True Grit, Nosferatu, 3:10 to Yuma, or Evil Dead would be better comparisons
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You always have the choice to not partake in this remake then ..
some of us wouldn't mind the game re-imagined for the new generation with new technology and better performance.
Chuck Norris
Banned
I think they are pretty close to the aesthetic of a team ICO game. I'd probably decrease the contrast a bit , over expose the sky a little more, and try and add in a bit more animation and movement based on wind and physics for Wanda and the Colossi.
Or just look at TLG for a case study on what it should look like
Or just look at TLG for a case study on what it should look like
Evil Dead remake? No thanks. I'll give you The Fly and The Thing.
Anyway I was just pointing out the difference between a remake and a rerelease.