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Shadow of the Colossus Trailer PS4 (E3 2017)
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I'm under the assumption that they've built this atop the ported-over engine that they created for the PS3 Remaster of SotC. I remember them talking about the process back when the HD Collection came out, and they had to convert the bespoke Team ICO SotC engine over to a more standardized code base for modern systems for the first remaster.
This looks to be a Remaster+, so to speak. Replacing actual graphical and audio assets on top of the engine that they already had from the previous remastering, and then doing further tweaks as needed from there. I say that because certain animations like the horses running across the puddle and those of the colossi look 100% identical to the originals.
This looks to be a "remaster" in the vain of Halo: The Master Chief Collection or the Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy.
- Remaster = porting a game over to new hardware, rendering original assets at higher resolution with maybe some touched-up textures
- Remaster+ = starting with the original engine (porting it to modern code base) and then making all new art assets for everything in the game
- Remake = completely making a game from scratch that seeks to provide a similar experience to the original game but otherwise uses none of the code or assets from the source material
Mr.Deadshot
Member
Looks great. I hope they improve the controls. Original and HD Version were kinda unplayable for me.
Why are people concerned is bluepoint not like the best with remasters etc?
Also the crash bandicoot remake seems fine to alot of peeps. They just have to stay true to the original code especially gameplay and emotional/setting wise.
It's hard yes but i am sure if devs can faithfully remake crash i am sure others can do the same with this game.
And maybe they will even add in the 8 cut collosi?
For those hating this they can still play the hd version on ps3 (they might even port that to ps4) or on a emulator with 4k if ya like (in the legal way ofcourse). And i really don't see the problem if they keep true to the original code and maybe even add in cut content to make it even better.
Also the crash bandicoot remake seems fine to alot of peeps. They just have to stay true to the original code especially gameplay and emotional/setting wise.
It's hard yes but i am sure if devs can faithfully remake crash i am sure others can do the same with this game.
And maybe they will even add in the 8 cut collosi?
For those hating this they can still play the hd version on ps3 (they might even port that to ps4) or on a emulator with 4k if ya like (in the legal way ofcourse). And i really don't see the problem if they keep true to the original code and maybe even add in cut content to make it even better.
John Kowalski
Banned
I have a poor opinion of those, too (other than books, because books are just printed again, games have to be remade and the comparison doesn't hold, especially in this case where there is new content), but with games the feeling is more relevant because of how creatively conservative new games are. I have the impression that the market for this commerce of nostalgia is making it so new games can move in a singular direction, while those which strike for a different experience can only utterly fail, or perhaps gain critical acclaim and go on to be sold as hidden relics of another time.
There's another, better way to give these games their due importance, and that's to learn from them and continue their legacy with new games by new people. How can an industry claim to hold these games dearly when they are doing so little to allow more games like them to be made? It's disheartening and defeating. I've bought this game twice, i won't be buying it again, so that's really not the problem. But i'm very conscious of how many games like this could be made if publishers game more developers more chances. I don't know, maybe it's just e3 depression settling in.
If they were holding a gun to my head i wouldn't be airing my humble grievances on neogaf.
Are they forcing you to buy it?
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Did people also get this angry when the Resident Evil remake was announced ? I wasn't on GAF at that time .. but this is kinda ridiculous. It's a remake of a classic game, if you don'l like it .. the original's still there.
There's absolutely no harm in re-creating a classic game with new technology for a new generation.
There's absolutely no harm in re-creating a classic game with new technology for a new generation.
DarkConfidant
Member
LegendOfGood
Member
PS2 Version not so much, however Bluepoint already made the definite port of that for PS3, so I fail to see what this adds beyond changing the aesthetic (for the worse)
John Kowalski
Banned
Yes they are. I will have to buy this. I will have to spend all the money i've earned to buy this. It will cost me 100 american dollars. That's how expensive it is. I won't eat for weeks, maybe months. I'll live without electricity and gas, maybe even sleep outside because i'll have to sell my bed just to pay for the clothes i'll have to wear waiting for this game.
I was just about to strongly refute this, but then I realise that I can't actually think of a better horse. Even Uncharted 3's horses were bad, funnily enough the most realistic horses (in terms of animation) are in Horizon Zero Dawn and they are machines. So yeah, your right there lol.
Worst-case scenario depending on how this remaster turns out, I'll have some new high-quality SotC footage to use in my cheesy YouTube videos. 
I made several ICO and SotC videos back in college as well, but watching them now is rough since they were made using captured footage from the original PS2 releases and then further degraded during the encoding process.
I made several ICO and SotC videos back in college as well, but watching them now is rough since they were made using captured footage from the original PS2 releases and then further degraded during the encoding process.
Primethius
Banned
Still can't believe we're getting a SotC remake.
LegendOfGood
Member
What they showed in the trailer indeed lacks the great and recognizable lightning and atmosphere of Ueda games
TLG even with it's poor AA still more appealing looking in my eyes than what I saw in this trailer.
That looks like the natural evolution of Team Ico's art design. SotCR just looks really different. I actually wonder how many of the leads that worked on SotC actually remain at JapanStudio (and how much input that studio has on this remake anyway).
Yes.
And aside from Wanda's model looking weird, i think it looks fantastic for the most part.
To be honest the purple sky in the original it's something i always hated, as an artistic choice, so i'm glad they toned it down.
I see this as someone else's interpretation of the work, a labor of love if you will, more than just a transposition of Ueda's vision (you have the HD remaster for that).
gutter_trash
Banned
people are not complaining about upgrading to a Pro and a 4K TV, but they complain about a remastered version of SotC? Please
Triple Dip for me, love the game too much
Triple Dip for me, love the game too much
If RE2 remake plays like modern RE I'll be super pissed. Because I'm really looking forward to playing that remake.
Shifty1897
Member
I'm a little worried that I didn't hear any of the original music in the trailer. There's no way there would be licensing issues, right?
I'm sure it will be great. Bluepoint is doing God's work.
I'm sure it will be great. Bluepoint is doing God's work.
LegendOfGood
Member
There was definitely OST music playing last night.
KojiKnight
Member
My wife is probably the biggest team Ico fan know, i convinced her to get is a ps4 solely on the fact that the last guardian would be there to play (ironically, that's how we got a ps3 as well).
Even she is really confused by this and isn't really interested. Hoping there is a ton of new content... Otherwise it's a sub 10 sale item for us.
Even she is really confused by this and isn't really interested. Hoping there is a ton of new content... Otherwise it's a sub 10 sale item for us.
There wasn't any in the trailer.
nycgamer4ever
Member
Bro why so serious. It's just games man. Enjoy them and if this bothers you so much then don't play it. Play the original.
Maybe including the original version as well would satisfy fans. I would personally be fine with a 4K PS4 version of the original game. It all depends on how they're developing this remaster.
Halo Anniversary was just new assets built on top of the original engine, and even had a setting where you could press select and instantly switch to the original version. Maybe Colossus could have something similar if this remaster is being done in a similar way.
Halo Anniversary was just new assets built on top of the original engine, and even had a setting where you could press select and instantly switch to the original version. Maybe Colossus could have something similar if this remaster is being done in a similar way.
Lionel Richie
Member
Very well said. I felt weird for not being hyped after the game announcement, but something looked really off in the trailer. I hope it turns out great, I really do, but until I see more I'll stay cautiously skeptic.
demosthenes
Member
Are we getting any extras in this? Missing bosses?
More_Badass
Member
Why shouldn't games be held to the same standards and concerns as movies, tv, books, music, art, etc, etc.?
PooBone
Member
I hope there's some extras but regardless, this is the number one game from last gen that I wanted available for the current consoles. This is a dream come true. I still remember 12 years ago playing the demo disk from a magazine that I drove to the store specifically for. I'll happily pay for this a third time.
My man looks like he just saw Jason murder his blue shirt friend for the millionth time.I'll tell you what definitely needs some work before the final product hits shelves...
Dat Wander face. :|
This is probably the biggest reason I'm excited for this. I have a friend with a PS4 interested in playing SotC, but they don't have any console to play it on currently. I'm very happy that he'll be able to play this game on the PS4 next year, especially with such an incredible visual improvement.
PooBone
Member
Because it's the best PS2 and/or PS3 game not playable on the PS4. Just my opinion but it's one that's widely shared.
hm
LightOfTruth
Member
I went nuts when this was announced. Legit almost cried. Its pretty crazy but this might actually be my most anticipated game of 2018 at this point. SOTC is among my favorite games of all time and I honestly believe it might be the GOAT.
My expectations are that it runs with a rock solid framerate, with a good camera and looks beautiful. But I actually hope they take some risks and go a bit beyond that. I want them to try a different (better) control scheme, and the world needs just a little *something* to incentivize exploration. I have no idea what that something is though. Of course, the dream is that they add new colossi. Even just 1 new one would make me ecstatic.
My expectations are that it runs with a rock solid framerate, with a good camera and looks beautiful. But I actually hope they take some risks and go a bit beyond that. I want them to try a different (better) control scheme, and the world needs just a little *something* to incentivize exploration. I have no idea what that something is though. Of course, the dream is that they add new colossi. Even just 1 new one would make me ecstatic.
PooBone
Member
Fruit and white-tailed lizards didn't do it for ya? LOL.
I'm with you in every sense of your post.
bigboss370
Member
I can't believe this is real! ;__;
i've been dreaming about this for a long time lol, so happy they actually did it
i've been dreaming about this for a long time lol, so happy they actually did it
I completely agree.
I agree with the sentiments that it looks like Bluepoint are struggling to get the ethereal lighting down, as I mentioned earlier. This game should NOT have a naturalistic, high contrast look like Horizon or something. It needs to look hazy and bathed in sunlight.
But I can't come down too hard on it because TBH I don't think we really saw any footage from an areas on the game's map that is a good showcase for the lighting.
Although based on this moment from the trailer it at least looks like they are trying to go for it:
Will know for sure after seeing clear footage of these areas:
But I can't come down too hard on it because TBH I don't think we really saw any footage from an areas on the game's map that is a good showcase for the lighting.
Although based on this moment from the trailer it at least looks like they are trying to go for it:
Will know for sure after seeing clear footage of these areas:
^SotC has such GREAT world design. It makes you want to explore it for no other reason than exploration itself.
You know what really annoys me, that they announce a full-blown remake to a Team ICO game and then drop zero information about it. What's all this about? How do you do that with one of your crown jewels?
You know what really annoys me, that they announce a full-blown remake to a Team ICO game and then drop zero information about it. What's all this about? How do you do that with one of your crown jewels?
TimeEffect
Member
I totally understand the concern about the art direction.
I think in some areas, we have to accept that the modernizing of this game is going to add things that take away from what we are familiar with, but the artstyle particularly needs to be tuned.
Im ultimately okay with it. I can approach this saying "this is different, this is still very special". I think simply seeing the colossi on PS4 tech is enough for me to say "this is very special", and it's not the same, but that's okay too.
There are going to be tons of new players who experience this and will feel it too
If I'm not mistaken this is the first time bluepoint has given a remaster an entirely upgraded look. Uncharted, mgs etc. had some minor details improved but this looks like a whole new challenge for the team.
Correct. This is the first time Bluepoint has taken on the task of creating all new modern HD assets for a game rather than working exclusively with existing assets. It's a whole new ballgame with this project, and they definitely have a tough task ahead of them given the game's distinctive aesthetic and diehard fanbase.
I would be over the moon if they end up nailing this, but I'd really need to see some more promising gameplay footage to alleviate my current concerns.
Nocturnowl
Member
Hey at least there was a trailer.
I still remember Ocarina of Time 3D getting dropped in some 3DS press pack screenshots just like "hey we also got this remake of that one game people seem to love I guess".