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Shadow of the Colossus Trailer PS4 (E3 2017)
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TimeEffect
Member
I don't doubt that they will add it.
The colossi themselves look more full of life/animated. I don't think it's a bad thing at all, and what's necessary for a modern remake. But even that can be criticized as being unlike the original/losing its uniqueness.
I think some of that is going to be necessary, and we can't really have it any other way. After playing the originals for so long, it's going to look a little off to see the Colossi seem more animated. I remember the originals, while feeling limited by the tech of the PS2, felt like lumbering titans of stone.... it made them look like ancient entities, but they look more detailed and lack that ruggedness. The remake footage seems a bit cleaner and livelier.
a bit hard to explain...
There's a difference that is better seen in motion, but it just feels as if the originals were masking the limits of the tech, and in doing so, managed to make the world and colossi seem more unique?
Like, the modern day games look cleaner and detailed, and some people will have a problem with that, yet in some ways, it seems like what to expect out of a modern remake
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Totally agree
It's like the Halo Remasters, they just looked weird. Yeah there were rocks, but they weren't bungie rocks, yeah there were textures, but they weren't halo textures.
Primethius
Banned
Have we heard anything about changes to the music?
I wouldn't mind if it was the same exact thing tbh.
I wouldn't mind if it was the same exact thing tbh.
Bloodporne
Member
I never really got into this game despite really liking the art and atmosphere, the controls were too irritating for me.
Curious to see where this 'version' will go actually. I'm usually a massive purist as well but since I was never really that into it before, I'm looking forward to this actually. And yeah, definitely add that "haze" whatever it is, looks more surreal that way.
EDIT: Maybe a bit off topic, but I'm assuming that kind of confirms they're not working on a Demon's Souls remaster?
Curious to see where this 'version' will go actually. I'm usually a massive purist as well but since I was never really that into it before, I'm looking forward to this actually. And yeah, definitely add that "haze" whatever it is, looks more surreal that way.
EDIT: Maybe a bit off topic, but I'm assuming that kind of confirms they're not working on a Demon's Souls remaster?
The PS3 remaster was pretty decent for its time, but it's already starting to be a bit outdated. The remaster was an upscale - so not even a full 1080p. I think it's pretty easy to see why they'd want to remake such an ambitious and remarkable game with today's technical capabilities. I understand the concerns some people have with artistic changes that may come with the new assets, but I'm hopeful that overall it will turn out to be a faithful remake.
As much as I love the original SotC, the remaster did not excite me anywhere near as much as this remake does. This looks like a much bigger graphical leap, and I can't wait to experience this game again with this kind of face lift.
DangerMouse
Member
JudgmentJay
Member
Has anyone posted about the framerate yet? It's too smooth in the trailer. Need that cinematic 15-25 FPS to maintain the feel of the original.
Seriously though, you guys are ridiculous with your nitpicking.
Seriously though, you guys are ridiculous with your nitpicking.
Whompa02
Member
Looks good so far. SOTC is my favorite game of all time.
Needs a little more "bounce" and more hair physics and other stuff moving around on Wander. His animations right now seem solid but just need a little more things bopping around. Tunic needs to be slightly longer. He looks a little basic compared to his original look.
Also more dust particles! I imagine they're fine tuning all this stuff though.
Otherwise looking good. Colossi and Environments look spot on.
Needs a little more "bounce" and more hair physics and other stuff moving around on Wander. His animations right now seem solid but just need a little more things bopping around. Tunic needs to be slightly longer. He looks a little basic compared to his original look.
Also more dust particles! I imagine they're fine tuning all this stuff though.
Otherwise looking good. Colossi and Environments look spot on.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Some of the posts in here are just... sad. Ok, the game's art style isn't perfectly 1:1, but how does that detract from the game? People use unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence as a reason why the game is uninteresting or shouldn't have been made. Everyone who owned a PS2, PS3 or PS4 possibly haven't experienced the game. I myself own all the aforementioned consoles but never played SotC until the remaster but I couldn't tolerate it because of the controls. My hope is that the controls are streamlined in this remake. Well, I'm looking forward to the game even if some "fans" aren't.
Filthy Casual
Member
Looks stunning.
It's the main thing that stuck out to me, the cloak physics is super stiff. Wander also needs some hair physics going on on his head because his hair looks like it's from a Lego character.
UnemployedVillain
Member
I'm gonna go ahead and assume everything about Wander is very early cuz his tunic is behaving really strangely.
I never noticed how goofy Wander's run was in the original. He flails his arms like those kids who are told to run at recess and start crying as they're doing it because they don't want to
ReubyJuice
Member
One of those "always meant to play it but never got to it" games for me, maybe this will push me to finally have at it. Trailer was gorgeous.
That's part of the ICO charm!
The boy in TLG has a similar running cycle.I think Wander's model here is totally placeholder.
Cuz this just looks wrong.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Visually it looks outstanding but I really don't see the animations holding up anymore. Re-doing those seems like an impossible task
dragonzdogma
Member
Any chances of them including some sorta remix version of the colossus weak points?
Like could they have a mode where they randomize their weak points or include even more weak points.
That would be great because I know this game inside out - I could speed run this in one sitting
Like could they have a mode where they randomize their weak points or include even more weak points.
That would be great because I know this game inside out - I could speed run this in one sitting
Liquidsnakeiv
Banned
It looks amazing
Ordinaryundone
Member
Because the art style was a huge part of the game's appeal. You could even argue that the art style and design are the reason the game was made at all, its a bit like the cinematic platformer games like Out of this World or Limbo like that. Super simple gameplay to facilitate the player being able to properly soak in the spectacle of the world and images being presented to them. Ico and The Last Guardian are the same way. So when the game doesn't look right, its a big deal.
I'm very excited for this. Shadow of the Colossus is one of those games I'll buy every time it's released on a new platform. Ditto for Ico.
I still have my PS2 discs of Ico and SotC, and I have the remaster collection too. I'll be picking up the PS4 one as well. SotC is one of my favorite games of all time, and I'll still pop it in at least once a year to get lost in the world again. I hope Bluepoint retains some of the atmospheric effects that made the PS2 game so unique.
I still have my PS2 discs of Ico and SotC, and I have the remaster collection too. I'll be picking up the PS4 one as well. SotC is one of my favorite games of all time, and I'll still pop it in at least once a year to get lost in the world again. I hope Bluepoint retains some of the atmospheric effects that made the PS2 game so unique.
Spartancarver
Member
Excellent. Never got around to playing the original. Will get this Day 1.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Thread is great. I never imagined that people would be complaining about crap LOD masking fog not being in a game.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Sucks that this won't be able to be dissected to shit by PC dudes. Always loved those vids where they searched the files or went out of bounds and found shit.
Man, I'm so hype for this. Sure, some stuff looks off, but this hype won't die!
Man, I'm so hype for this. Sure, some stuff looks off, but this hype won't die!
Honey Bunny
Member
Hey man look at Silent Hill.
UnemployedVillain
Member
I think Wander's model here is totally placeholder.
Cuz this just looks wrong.
Yeah, I was thinking it almost looks like it's done in a different art style
Laplasakos
Member
I don't think people are downplaying the graphics. Most of the comments are positive with the only exception being Wander's model which looks like a placeholder.
Btw people, imagine if the next Bluepoint project is Demon's Souls remaster/remake in the same vein as SotC now...
illmatic22
Banned
It's for love bruh
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Well, the game doesn't release for some time so the claims that the game shouldn't have been made are a tad, hmmm...extreme in my opinion. If people don't like something, fine don't play it. People can go on pretending the game doesn't exist or simply play the remaster and get on with their lives but the game being exposed to a new generation of players shouldn't have any bearing on vexed fans. People here have made uninformed and premature assumptions, how about we wait until near release or release to dismantle the game. It's a work in progress. It just seems like we're so eager to hate something and I don't understand why. People beg and plead for these remasters and remakes, Sony taps into their sense of nostalgia and then when people see the things they've begged for, they act as if some cardinal sin has been committed.
chrisPjelly
Member
Weird how they decided to remake this instead of ICO. I didn't think SotC aged THAT bad. But hey, I'll take it!
Chris_Rivera
Member
Never played it, never will play the older versions. Will play this.
In my mind it actually aged worse, just because it's more demanding of the player. Ico is more about exploring and solving some problems, whereas SotC actually needs you to execute on some moderately challenging stuff. The frame rate and controls are really unbearable by today's standards.
nelsonroyale
Member
I think the rendering in this probably looks at least as advanced as Last Guardian to be honest. And the fidelity still makes the art really shine. It is a stunning game.
I did it for the trophies.
I think there's a bigger market and more room for improvement in SotC.
Atmosphere is a thing.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume everything about Wander is very early cuz his tunic is behaving really strangely.
Yeah he looks weird.
Though the running animation was always shit, especially if you look at it from the side, it becomes obvious.