This confirms what I thought earlier about the locations in the trailer not being ones you can use to accurately gauge the extent of how true to the original's art style the remake is. Aside from Wander, who looks way more naturalistic than an Ueda character should look IMO, it seems to be impressively true to the aesthetic of the original so far. We won't know for sure though until we see footage of the more surreal, dreamy locations.
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Shadow of the Colossus Trailer PS4 (E3 2017)
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This confirms what I thought earlier about the locations in the trailer not being ones you can use to accurately gauge the extent of how true to the original's art style the remake is. Aside from Wander, who looks way more naturalistic than an Ueda character should look IMO, it seems to be impressively true to the aesthetic of the original so far. We won't know for sure though until we see footage of the more surreal, dreamy locations.
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
I didn't know Wander descended from neanderthals.
I have to assume that model is going to get trashed entirely but it's concerning it exists. It keeps nothing of the original art style.
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Yeah... no, absolutely awful.
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Oof. Do not want. This remake/remaster seems to have lost a lot of the Team Ico aesthetic.
Nuno Pinto
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Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Who the fuck is that?
I didn't know Wander descended from neanderthals.
I have to assume that model is going to get trashed entirely but it's concerning it exists. It keeps nothing of the original art style.
Yeah, don't mess with this face and Mono's. They can improve them without changing it too much.
Baroquemantic
Member
Niiiice. Actually think I'm gonna play through the game again tomorrow on PS3. I'm so hyped.
Baroquemantic
Member
The PS3 remaster already fixed the framerate. It's a locked 30 as far as I know.
I've sent them two emails over the years asking about the changed grip physics in the SotC remaster.
They never answered.
It still drops a bit occasionally, especially in 1080p mode. If you want the classic PS2 experience you can get it by playing in 3D.
qualitydisc
Member
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Guess I'm in the minority here but I think he looks OK in this shot. Different from the original, yes, more like an actual person.
I loves me some actual purple-haired persons.
Really misguided notion to make him look realistic. Maybe that's what I don't like about this remake and couldn't place it beforehand. They made everything look photorealistic.
Whompa02
Member
Yeah tbh I expected a lot worse. This doesn't seem bad. I do think that model as well as lightning/rendering will go through some refinements before the final ship regardless.
nitekrawlwer
Member
That's probably for the best. This often bleak game just has a way of making me hopeful.
My googling points to no involvement from Ueda but I would love to be proven wrong.
Baroquemantic
Member
Ah ok, thanks. Didn't know there were drops. Didn't even know it had a 1080p mode. Thought it was 720p all this time.I've sent them two emails over the years asking about the changed grip physics in the SotC remaster.
They never answered.
It still drops a bit occasionally, especially in 1080p mode. If you want the classic PS2 experience you can get it by playing in 3D.
The grip physics were changed in the remaster? I thought the colossi were just more aggressive and shook their heads/bodies more.
unknownstranger
Member
This is my main concern about it. His hasn't commented on Twitter about it so I'm a little worried.
No one is a human in SOTC/ICO universe.
The Praiseworthy
Member
He looks fine, people are overreacting.
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
That's not my cute boy.
simple_sleep
Neo Member
Most were cut due to technical and development time reasons. In a sense, this would be the right opportunity to fully realise the original vision of the game.
doctorcdcs
Member
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
looks a bit like a clean-shaven egoraptor haha
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I mean, he looks like a human being, but he doesn't look like the kind of determined, legendary lone hunter who could take down 16 colossi and survive being stomped on, smashed, and dropped from massive heights. Who doesn't care which sacred rules he flagrantly disobeys because reviving his love is his single drive that propels him to insane action. Ueda was able to express that through Wander's face!
In that photo he kind of looks like a doof. So that's GOT to be a placeholder.
It personally looks about as good as I could possibily imagine it.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
Reminds me of this.
I didn't know Wander descended from neanderthals.
I have to assume that model is going to get trashed entirely but it's concerning it exists. It keeps nothing of the original art style.
Jesus what the fuck guys? They just took a white dude and turned him brown. Calm the fuck down, ya racists.
Sephiroth_VII
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Samanosuke Akechi
Member
IMO the best thing they can do with his face is to import it from the original game and give him more polygons and slightly accentuate that style for emotional effect. And also make his character model as a whole a bit more stylized, like the kid in TLG.
The Colossi and environments look fantastic so far though, like how I'd imagine a game made by Team Ico directly collaborating 50/50 with another AAA studio might appear.
The Colossi and environments look fantastic so far though, like how I'd imagine a game made by Team Ico directly collaborating 50/50 with another AAA studio might appear.
Yabberwocky
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Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
...I'm seeing a little Zac Efron?
mickagau33
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Just found out you can get a decent glance of Wander's face when streaming the trailer in 4K:
I'm betting the model is currently being tweaked. We could never clearly saw him in the trailer for a reason. Right now he reminds me of Ueda ;-)
That's a very ugly Wander. :/
He's not brown, that's just the lighting.
And Wander being very pale is kind of important to the game's plot.
He's not brown, that's just the lighting.
And Wander being very pale is kind of important to the game's plot.
Other than maybe being an aesthetic choice to make the gradual transformation he goes through read better, visually, it is not important to the plot.
How is it important to the plot?
Chuck Norris
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He gets more pale and sickly looking with each Colossi he killed until he loses his soul and is consumed by Dormin
rayman1900
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So is this game more considered like a Remaster or a Remake? I can't fundamentally make the difference...
Zomba13
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To me a Remaster is where they just put the game on something new with better resolution and AA and maybe touch up the textures (or the textures can now look like they should thanks to the better resolution). A Remake is when you do a big overhaul, new models and geometry, new lighting, new textures, when the devs actually remake major elements of the game.
Going from the trailer this is definitely a remake to me as opposed to a remaster because of how much is remade. There is that comparison video posted in the topic that compares it to the original and you can see how much has been added changed.
Yeah, people are reacting way too harshly to a zoomed in shot of a face from the side, with a dark background/shadows, as well as being taken when Wander is running. It's not really representative of what you'll get.
entremet
Member
Remake. Without a doubt.
Oh I see overreactions are not stopping anytime soon. 😌
Welp that sure looks like a "remaster".
Cave Johnson
Member
As much as I appreciate the "enhancements", the compromising of aesthetics destroys the atmosphere of the original. But then again, that was a Team ICO design. Translating that to next-gen might be more of a challenger than ever without the guidance of Ueda.
rayman1900
Member
Alright, thanks for the infos! Considering the amount of work they had to do to get that graphical fidelity I can agree too on the definition of a Remake.
rayman1900
Member
Hoping they realize the potential of the PS4 and maybe have time to add some extra Colossi!