Big Takeover
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Yep
I do understand people's skepticism. From the beloved GTRs to Need for Speed. There are some fences needing mending. That said, reasonable people welcome that and should be impressed with their commitment to get it right.
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Project CARS (crowdsourcing) racing sim by Slightly Mad Studios (fully funded 3.75M)
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Yep
I do understand people's skepticism. From the beloved GTRs to Need for Speed. There are some fences needing mending. That said, reasonable people welcome that and should be impressed with their commitment to get it right.
What wheel are you using? I've always had issues with my Fanatec PWTS. It was definitly much better when they made some big changes a couple of builds ago but there was still some room for improvement.
The Caterham Classic looks like a cute car. People seem to have quite a positive opinion of how fun it is to drive.
I haven't downloaded the build myself yet, but I'm really looking forward to cloud pictures.
From the forum, shot from Presha:
Shots from Aleksss:
Yeah clouds need to fade with distance, and yeah I think it's known that they need to adjust how clouds look down to the horizon, but I'm pretty happy with this for the first pass. Apparently they broke their record for most people online at the same time this week.
I haven't downloaded the build myself yet, but I'm really looking forward to cloud pictures.
From the forum, shot from Presha:
Shots from Aleksss:
Yeah clouds need to fade with distance, and yeah I think it's known that they need to adjust how clouds look down to the horizon, but I'm pretty happy with this for the first pass. Apparently they broke their record for most people online at the same time this week.
If they get the physics right, this game has the potential to be absolutely epic. The "right" cars, the tracks, the features, the graphics, etc are all hear. Even the FFB is not bad independent of the physics. The physics have gotten better since release but oversteer still does not feel proper and grip levels are all over the place. Right now the Caterham seems to be the best with the Asano Touring a close second. I really do not understand how this game could have worse physics than NFS Shift 1 modded with the overhaul mod. If they just took that and copied it (it is a mod, based on code they can't use. Useless?), it would be a better start than what we have now.
That's really disappointing to hear. Like you say, everything bar the physics seems to be in place. If SMS can nail that then this game could be peerless.
I guess this time next year well find out just how much Shift's handling model was actually influenced by the suits at EA, and how much of it is really how SMS think it should be done.
I tried to go for a beach post card travel vibe.
Running everything else max except blur on low with 8xmsaa 16af and post smaa set to ultra @ 1080p averaging 60fps.
Care to post your PC spec?
Thanx in advance!
i5 750 @ 3.2 (usually 3.8-4.0GHz but running passive cooler as one fan died on heatsink)
Gigabyte 670 which automatically runs slightly higher than factory default OC
4gb Ram
Win 7 64 Ult
You can see it guzzling up the VRAM
Glad to see they're utilizing the hardware. Sometimes it will be chewing through 2018mb of vram. I really wanna see how far they can push it and take it with the visuals. Surprised it doesn't require 2x 670s for those settings and fps, oh and that's with 15 cars on track!
The only downside I see is that visually it's ruined any upcoming racing games as they've set the bar too high and no one else seems to be delivering on that level also factor in it's in prealpha it's just craaaazy!
I know hardcore sim enthusiasts might not be currently happy with the physics settings but immersion is equally important IMO and it's not like were not driving daily, we experience visual clarity on the road albeit not on a track with a million$+ cars it's still a big tick to nail the visuals down.
I keep getting very tempted to buy a gaming PC with the specs to run this game silky smooth on three screens with everything maxed. The only thing stopping me is the thought that this time next year - when the game probably launches - a lot of my hardware would either be out of date, or much cheaper to buy.
That and the thought of x720 or PS4.
Very tempted though, and it'll no doubt increase during the transition from summer to winter.
That and the thought of x720 or PS4.
Very tempted though, and it'll no doubt increase during the transition from summer to winter.
It's very unlickely your hardware will be outdated by this time next year. Hardware cicles have widened in PC world since they follow consoles. You can max pCARS with two year old hardware.
That said, hardware will be cheaper a year from now, that's for sure. However, I wouldn't hesitate: PC Gaming is worth it.
Big Takeover
Member
Skip the triple screens, and just put together a reasonable system. Don't bother breaking the bank. Enjoy ALL of the great racing sims, and the other terrific things about PC gaming.
You have a nice Fanatec setup already, right?
If pCARS was out right now in finished form, with glowing testimonials about the FFB, physics, handling etc, then I'd probably dive straight in without hesitation.
Yeah, I've got a dedicated game room with Fanatec GT2, CSPs, h-gate, Playseat, screen mount, Yamaha 5.1 etc so a lot of the kit is already in place. If I went the PC route I'd want to spec it reasonably highly to hopefully make it relatively future-proof.
I'm running a nearly 3 year old cpu, only updated the gpu.
Sandy bridge came along... Wasn't worth the upgrade given I run the pc overclocked @ 4.0ghz..
Ivy bridge came along... Wasn't worth the upgrade for me again, like 30% performance gain maybe?
5870 released 3 years back...6970 came along with maybe 20% performance increase. Wasn't worth it.
Had a 5970 and 5870... 580 wasn't worth it neither was the 590.. Jumped in on the 670 as noise and roar power is just fantastic plus was sick of Ati shenanigans.
Edit: If anyone thinks a ps4 or 720 will run this game in it's full release state at 1080p 60 fps they're having a laugh IMO.
If Sony and MS aren't aiming for at least mid-2012 high-end gaming PC specs then I'd be amazed.
Is this based on actual driving experience* or in comparison to other games? Or just weird relative to the rest of the physics of the CARS itself?
*Even with this there's the issue of different cars feeling different to begin with.
In comparison to other sims.
Have you tried some of the various setups and/or FFB tweaks from the forums (at least I -think- there should be some there)? I almost wonder if there are some wheels/systems for which certain settings work great, and/or certain people who consider them realistic, but others don't. There are so many options, it seems like a daunting task to produce something that everyone will consider realistic by default without the need for tweaking.
Joseph Merrick
Member
oh. where did you find this? link?
Joseph Merrick
Member
cool.
thanks
thanks
I had some time yesterday evening to test the new build and day/weather addition, besides few obvious issues/bugs, looks very good already and that little Caterham was fun to drive. I can see that one, with few tweaks (tire loose grip and regain) being very popular online.
And as there is no MP yet, video of me against the AI at Connecticut Hill short, 7 laps, little bump in the 1st corner cost me better a better finish
Caterham Seven Classic - Connecticut Hill Short - 7 laps vs AI (build 261) (youtube)
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And as there is no MP yet, video of me against the AI at Connecticut Hill short, 7 laps, little bump in the 1st corner cost me better a better finish
Caterham Seven Classic - Connecticut Hill Short - 7 laps vs AI (build 261) (youtube)
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I have a Fanatec CSW and I have not seen any specific settings posted for the wheel that feel right to me. Like other have said, oversteer is just not right. If you see any PM me or post them here. The game has gotten better since it was released, but there is this "snap" reaction to oversteer that just should not be there. Oversteer is not progressive, it is like an on/off switch. I do not think this has anything to do with wheel settings.
cobragt4001
Banned
Yep, I'm going to have my pc done by Oct and I'm actually going with the gtx670 and plan to get another gtx 670 for sli later in the year so I should be set for a year or two.
The reason no settings can fix it yet is that it's inherent in the tire model; AJ is currently working to minimize the transient-grip issue in the current model for consoles/AI like most sims do(rF, otm iR) and the dynamic tire model(like LFS or rF2) will have no such problem. It's easily the physics main issue, but it'll get fixed.
Metalmurphy
Member
Funny, I'm thinking the opposite happened. The new pagani cars are just... oO
And yeah, that "snap" thing has been there since I first played this.
One can hope.
I agree with this.
It's not impossible to counter oversteer, but I feel that a lot of times it just instagrips and I still land in the barrier in the direction that I'm countersteering in.
And as there is no MP yet, video of me against the AI at Connecticut Hill short, 7 laps, little bump in the 1st corner cost me better a better finish
Caterham Seven Classic - Connecticut Hill Short - 7 laps vs AI (build 261) (youtube)
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That is beautiful. Stunning, even.
Nice little comparison video my friend found. It's crazy that the game actually kinda look better than the real world haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uV9xjzt1VrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uV9xjzt1VrI
RaceManIak
Neo Member
I say the same thing everytime I watch the clouds outside since friday lol
AstroNut325
Member
Yeah they are actively working on licensing as much stuff as possible but that kind of thing take some time and will likely happen near the end of the project.
They can do the tracks under fake names if they want too tho. They just have to change it enough (they said how much stuff they had to change exactly a couple of months ago on the forums but I can't remember) so. Worst case scenario we still get the tracks with fake name...which isn't that big of a deal.
I think most (if not all) are a lock. From what I understand, the licensing for tracks is dirt cheap compared to cars because they don't really have anything to lose and there's nothing like damage modelling or cars flipping or whatever that require hard scrutiny. And it's free publicity for the track owners.
There was something posted earlier in the PC sim thread regarding Bathurst making an appearance in a new Simbin title, and how easy it was to work with Australians. I'd also guess that a dev that isn't necessarily a guaranteed money puller (a la Shift/Forza/GT) being able to license so many tracks (have a look at Race Injection and it's spinoffs/add-ons) means that it can't be too pricey... I think.
Bathurst is already licensed too.
Oh yeah, I know that's the case for pCARS, but it was news for Simbin. But I'm not sure if the name used in-game is the proper "race track" name or they're just using the locale name for the track (ie. is it Bathurst or Mt. Panorama?). I don't think they're using proper names for any other tracks, so maybe "Bathurst" isn't what it'll go by, come release time.
Ah right it is Bathurst iirc.
I can't wait for them to get the licensing in cause it's mad confusing right now when you're trying to find a specific track lol. Hopefully they'll redo the track selection menu too cause it's kinda difficult to browse the list right now.
TJP
Member
Ian Bell from SMS posted the licencing cost for most tracks tops out around $50K with many falling well below that figure and some of the better known tracks asking for more.
Mount Panorama should be an easy track to licence as it's 'owned' by the council. If the Bathurst council is run like most other councils I've encountered, they'll be more interesting being PITA about home improvements than licencing the public road to some Swedes.
