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Nibel
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(11-16-2012, 08:48 AM)
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Without question, it has a few issues. This version of ME3 seems a lot less visually stable than, say, the Xbox 360 version -- the frame rate is choppier, the animation seems rougher. The audio suffers, too; while the music and sound effects have come over fine, all the dialogue has a hollow, echoing quality to it. The GamePad's analog sticks aren't as comfortable as the 360's, and the placement of the face buttons relative to the right stick made me continually miss the melee and reload buttons. My headshot ratio has dropped precipitously. It's tragic.

Now, the Wii U Controller Pro rectifies some of these control issues -- it's pretty much a 360 controller, and it works great. But the problem there is that you lose the GamePad features if you use the Pro, and the GamePad is actually used pretty well here. By default, it serves as a quick skill-select menu or live map display (yes, just like a DS game), and the developers have added some neat details -- for instance, during the prologue sequence, the map display breaks up and distorts momentarily whenever a Reaver in the distance fires an energy blast. There was some actual thought put into this port, which is always nice to see.

The real advantage to the GamePad, however, is the fact that the game looks much better on its smaller screen. I don't know if it's the flaws being obscured by the pad's screen when they're shown more clearly on the higher-performance LCD of an HDTV, or if it's simply a benefit of the pad's lower resolution requiring the system to render fewer polygons, but the game plays noticeably smoother on the GamePad screen. The stiffness of the characters doesn't come across as readily, and the compactness of the visuals makes the environments seem far more beautiful and detailed.

Another trade-off: The Wii U version comes with all the collector's edition exclusive content on-disc already (though not high-end DLC like Leviathan), but much of the subtlety of the game is lost due to the lack of support for Mass Effect 1 and 2 save files. The game kicks off with a 20-minute digital comic that allows you to make key choices to shape the plot, just like the PlayStation 3 version of Mass Effect 2, but the most interesting moments in ME3 came as outcomes of smaller choices that aren't included in this prologue. So while you'll still shape the outcome of, say, Tali's major plot arc, you'll never know the pleasure of helping Conrad Verner find true happiness.

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Mod Edit:

Might as well collect the games in this thread so consumers can pick the ports without issues if they prefer.

Ninja Gaiden 3 also apparently has issues.

Originally Posted by IGN

Visually, Ninja Gaiden 3 is hardly going to make your PS3 and Xbox-owning friends envious. In fact, Razor’s Edge is arguably uglier than its cousins, with bland textures and a bad case of the “jaggies” combining to create a muddy look that would’ve been called out seven years ago during the Xbox 360’s launch. Still, the framerate stays (mostly) smooth, which is crucial for a game like this. Plus, at this stage it’s nice – if admittedly a novelty – to be playing a Nintendo game in high-definition.

"- Muddy visuals, jaggies, occasional framerate stutters"

Source: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/...rs-edge-review

Originally Posted by 1UP

Early Wii U adopters can rest easy in that this iteration of Ninja Gaiden 3 can visually stand on equal footing with its other console siblings, at least until too many things start happening at once. The framerate noticeable stutters at times when the screen starts to bustle with activity -- an unfortunate circumstance that shows up especially whenever rocket-totting enemies appear. It's weird because sometimes you almost expect everything to chug, but it doesn't. A helicopter boss battle in the second chapter ran fine at times, but would suddenly slow down out of nowhere. It's difficult to pinpoint the cause of these slowdown issues, but they happen. The slower combat speed shows off a visually satisfying combat system, an unexpected outcome, for sure. I wonder if the results will inspire some ambitious YouTube producer to make slowdown videos of other visually stimulating video games.

Source: http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9115465

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Update 2:

From the Giant Bomb Arkham City livestream thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500392

Originally Posted by Jake Tower

Catwoman stole the framerate.

Originally Posted by toasty_T

I guess it is a different game

Damn, that's rough

Originally Posted by maquiladora

holy framerate batman!

Originally Posted by SJRB

God I love Arkham City so much, the intro sequence is so amazing. The proper intro, not the Catwoman segment. And the soundtrack is sooo good.


And wow performance is terrible.

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC

THIS FRAMERATE

Originally Posted by Khezu

wtf...

Originally Posted by LeBrick James

Dat framerate is falling apart.

I figured the port would probably struggle once they got in the open world.

Originally Posted by SmithnCo

Framerate. :\

Originally Posted by Eggman

LOL @ THE FRAMERATE

Originally Posted by Totobeni

the framerate just shat itself. holy crap.

Originally Posted by THACHITS

Mother of god this looks awful

Originally Posted by sflufan

I think the framerate took away frames from OTHER games!

Originally Posted by Conciliator

Wow that's really a shame with the Batman port.

Originally Posted by Brazil

Wow. The frame rate in Batman is absolutely fucked up.

CODBLOPS2:

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php...&postcount=158


Originally Posted by dark10x

Just to add to this thread, I've played a couple of missions thus far and it's not good.

The Digital Foundry article featured the first area benchmarked on PS3 and 360. During some of the parts they show the framerate flucuates between 45-50 fps dropping as low as 40-ish on PS3 during the slowest point. On WiiU? Yeah, that same area (right before the chopper) sinks UNDER 30 fps. It's juddery and choppy. On average the framerate seems to spend a lot of time around 50 fps.

Now, it generally doesn't sink THAT low during gameplay but it spends way too much time under 60 fps. The 360 version is much smoother and even the PS3 version seems to have an edge. The image quality seems more in line with 360 at least, which is to say that it's jaggy as hell, but not blurry like 1.02 on PS3.

The shadows are also nasty. Until you stand right up on them, they appear at a very VERY low resolution and only resolve into higher detail when you press your face right up against them.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ops-2-face-off

Regarding those two shots above...

When I returned to that area, the pillows DID appear on WiiU. I don't know why they were missing when I snapped that photo, but they were. Secondly, the shadows DO eventually become the resolution as you see on 360 *BUT* only when you are within VERY close proximity. From any normal distance they are a chunky mess.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php...&postcount=157

Dark10x's comments in the other thread mention the game runs pretty poorly (30 fps in the first level). And it's missing details and has worse lighting.

wiiu

360

pretty disappointing

For people who were looking for more clarification on CoD's Wii U issues:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...wii-u-face-off





It's also the same resolution as the Xbox 360 game.

Epic Mickey 2:

See the Giant Bomb livestream at the 7-ish hour mark. This may be the single worst performing port.

Warriors Orochi 2:



Darksiders 2:

Originally Posted by TheNatural

Also Darksiders 2:

But significantly, the game suffers from some frame rate problems, distracting loading times as you move through the overworld, and longer loading times when opening doors than in the other iterations.

http://www.gamespot.com/darksiders-i...eview-6400372/

Seriously, is there a single game that has been ported unscathed?

Someone update the OP and add more on the heap. Is there anything left?

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dragonflys545
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Ouch... The most expensive version too. I bought the PS3 version for 9.99. I'll just stick to exclusives for the Wii U.
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By default, it serves as a quick skill-select menu or live map display (yes, just like a DS game), and the developers have added some neat details -- for instance, during the prologue sequence, the map display breaks up and distorts momentarily whenever a Reaver in the distance fires an energy blast. There was some actual thought put into this port, which is always nice to see.

Three games and you can't get the damn name right...
Reiko
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(11-16-2012, 08:51 AM)
With 1GB of RAM... Unreal Engine 3 is choppier on Wii U?


What... The... Fuck?
Keyouta
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What a compelling buy
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(11-16-2012, 08:52 AM)
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EA just doesn't give a shit.
Bjoern the Smexy
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I say the pros actually outweigh the cons.

But yeah, according to the graphical and audio hiccups that's just stupid. It should perform just as good as the PS360 version.
Maybe it'll get patched sooner or later, if fans are loud enough at least.


Still EA, that's not how you make people buy games on that console. If you're not even trying getting the performance on par with the other versions besides having more power to work with then why would anyone want to buy your stuff on that console?
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EA launch shit
JDSN
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(11-16-2012, 08:53 AM)
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Big surprise.
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Originally Posted by Reiko

With 1GB of RAM... Unreal Engine 3 is choppier on Wii U?


What... The... Fuck?

Do you know what purpose RAM serves in a system?
Pineconn
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Way to go Straight Right.
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This is a lazy port. The fact that the game looks better on the pad is sad and shows that EA picked the wrong studio to do the port.
Reiko
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Originally Posted by Thoraxes

Do you know what purpose RAM serves in a system?

To eliminate Dat Unreal Engine 3 pop in.

Nevermind the Wii U having a superior GPU...
DICKS AHOY
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unprecedented support
Mattakuevan
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I'm sure this was just a rush job. The wii-u's strengths seems to be in its GPU whereas something like Mass Effect is more CPU bound.

EA probably just didn't give a shit.
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EA released the Mass Effect trilogy for the 360, PC and (soon) PS3 before the Wii U's DLC-less full priced Mass Effect 3 port. Would it really surprise anyone if they added insult to injury by making it a crappy port too?
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Originally Posted by JDSN

Big surprise.

It really is. The Wii U has more powerful hardware so there's no logical reason the 360 version would run better.
SirIgbyCeaser
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New console, new generation of surprisingly bad ports.

But hey, you can touch the screen and play it with your tv off!
Reiko
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Originally Posted by Mattakuevan

I'm sure this was just a rush job. The wii-u's strengths seems to be in its GPU whereas something like Mass Effect is more CPU bound.

EA probably just didn't give a shit.

Does this explain why there's no Battlefield 4 for Wii U?
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(11-16-2012, 08:56 AM)
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Port of a year old game on a platform with an install base of zero being lazy? Well I never!
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So not even on par...

Pretty bad really. I hope they manage to sort it out.
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Maybe there will be a day 1 patch, then again maybe not. :/
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Color me completely unsurprised.

Dear EA: I don't buy overpriced garbage. Don't blame us for not buying core games when the releases are shit.
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Originally Posted by Thoraxes

Do you know what purpose RAM serves in a system?

There are also simpletons out there who think a Geforce 520M outfitted with 2GB VRAM will outperform a 460 with 1 GB.
TheGreatDivide
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Welcome to the next generation of console gaming.
Nibel
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CoD for Vita appearantly just took 5 months

I wonder how much time they had for this one
ShockingAlberto
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Yep.

Don't buy launch-window EA games for the Wii U.

Just...trust me. That path is fraught with regret and tears.
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Wow..

well not really wow.. this is hardly surprising. I doubt we'll see games that surpass 360/PS3 for atleast a year until WiiU's launch.
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Originally Posted by Valnen

It really is. The Wii U has more powerful hardware so there's no logical reason the 360 version would run better.

new hardware, lack of time, outside folks porting?
Reiko
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(11-16-2012, 08:57 AM)

Originally Posted by DonMigs85

There are also simpletons out there who think a Geforce 520M outfitted with 2GB VRAM will outperform a 460 with 1 GB.

You know I already gave a real answer.
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Don't worry I'm sure the games journalism industry will call EA out on this.
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guys, if no one buys this game, we might be able to kill the mass effect series off forever. i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto

Yep.

Don't buy launch-window EA games for the Wii U.

Just...trust me. That path is fraught with regret and tears.

The man has spoken.
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Originally Posted by TheGreatDivide

Welcome to the next generation of console gaming.

Nah, just wait until

Oh, it's you.
Nibel
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

guys, if no one buys this game, we might be able to kill the mass effect series off forever. i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

They are already working on the next game

Originally Posted by ElTopo

Wait, not even FIFA 13 ? Please tell me they didn't fuck that one up, I was looking forward finally getting to play "real" FIFA.

FIFA 13 Wii U is FIFA 12 with different logos
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The game ran like shit from the start, so a port with tack on features isn't going to change anything.
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Originally Posted by Valnen

It really is. The Wii U has more powerful hardware so there's no logical reason the 360 version would run better.

EA has shown a consistent lack of fucks of everything regarding WiiU, I dont see what is so shocking that this is a sub-par product. If im not mistaken it was Straight Right that proposed this idea and EA agreed while they probably were planning on doing the Trilogy thing. I wonder when are we gonna get some info about the worsening relationship between EA and Nintendo.
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KillerTravis
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Who was buying this anyway? I'm more willing to give my money to a game like Arkham City even if it is even older than ME3.
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802

new hardware, lack of time, outside folks porting?

Not to mention EA was probably apathetic as fuck as to how this turned out.

Did them not getting any input on the Wii U's online infrastructure mess up their relationship to Nintendo that badly? Some of this just seems outright malicious.
Rezbit
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Lol, EA please.
EDarkness
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No one should be surprised by this. No idea who the developer is who ported it over, but this game seemed like it was going to be a cash in port and nothing more. Sad, too, because before I knew anything about it I was hyped at the idea of playing Mass Effect 3 with IR, but as news started to trickle in, I figured that wasn't going to happen and that EA didn't give a damn about this version anyway. Depressing, actually.
MuseManMike
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Very clever "if old."

Also, this may be doing you a favor if you have not already played it. The game can be skipped.
Valnen
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

guys, if no one buys this game, we might be able to kill the mass effect series off forever. i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

You can just stop buying the series if you don't like it, don't wish for it's death for everyone else too.
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto

Yep.

Don't buy launch-window EA games for the Wii U.

Just...trust me. That path is fraught with regret and tears.

Like a spurned lover, EA gives Nintendo nothing more than its token [child] support. Sigh.
TheGreatDivide
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Originally Posted by Lupin the Wolf

Like a spurned lover, EA gives Nintendo nothing more than its token [child] support. Sigh.

Nintendo probably asked for it.
Anth0ny
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Shocking.
antonz
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Nintendo took a dump in EA's cheerios somewhere along the line. I doubt EA will ever get serious about Wii U support.
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(11-16-2012, 09:04 AM)
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[hate]I had no desire to buy it before myself, but now I want nobody to buy it.[/hate]
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Come on EA! Wth

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