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CCP re-imagining Dust 514 as Project Legion for PC
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Winterblink
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As a long time EVE player and DUST 514 cynic, this looked really really good to me. The immersion factor of fighting on these planet surfaces looks to be amped up significantly, and having it on the home platform of EVE will definitely get interest from EVE players.
Hopefully they'll be opening up the battles to affect more than just the faction warfare systems, so this stuff can really start having an impact on the universe as it was intended.
Hopefully they'll be opening up the battles to affect more than just the faction warfare systems, so this stuff can really start having an impact on the universe as it was intended.
EvilKatarn
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Stoffinator
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Makes me wonder when and if this game will make it to the PS4.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
whole lot of marketing speak in that statement.
I have no confidence in this game though.
I have no confidence in this game though.
mcz117chief
Member
Dust 514 is an absolute atrocity, it has huge potential though and I hope it does well on the PC after a complete rework (I smell another FF14)
You should have left that one be.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself
I'm excited for the game though and it should have been like that from the start. The Playstation 3 was far too limited for what they were trying to do.Blog post: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/
Dictator93
Member
Dust 514 should ahve been a PC game all along. Making it PS3 exclusive was just plain stupid.
funkystudent
Member
Good. Not being on PC was a idiotic move for Dust to begin with.
It has a nice concept that's about it
Interesting. This is probably their way of bringing the Dust experience to PC (and possibly PS4). I guess this because stronger platforms can handle more stuff and joining together the new, more complex game with the old one isn't possible.
I look forward to anything they come up with. I played Dust 514 right until the moment my old fat died.
I look forward to anything they come up with. I played Dust 514 right until the moment my old fat died.
F2P shooter that integrates with a PC game already? Could have seen that coming.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
What's WoD?
jackissocool
Member
My first thought as well.
World of Darkness, a MMORPG adaptation of the PnP RPG system of the same name.
In terms of footage we are currently lacking apart from one picture;
I missed that small gameplay they showed so hopefully someone will upload it later on youtube.
Yea agreed man, I want to see that footage. I have faith in CCP to make a decent FPS since walking in stations was shown. Dust514 was not what I was expecting at all when it finally came to release.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/02/p...first-person-shooter-set-in-the-eve-universe/
I mean, is it Dust on PC?
JCG: No! There's some pieces of it, absolutely. There's a studio that's spent five years building a shooter—you don't throw that away. It's a shooter.
But it's a very different experience. Just to give you a little bit of background, when I joined CCP several months ago it was very much with the idea of carrying the banner forward. Take Dust 514 forward and deliver on the promise of a true sandbox, first-person experience in New Eden. That's the vision of this.
And I felt that, as I sat with the team and we discussed where to take it, that it became quite different. That it became its own thing. And that's where Project: Legion was born, as a part of the team in Shanghai. They've started working for the past few months—it's still fairly early. We're in prototype phase on this.
We're salvaging some of the best of Dust, but it's a brand new experience. The way I see this, that ecosystem of what Project Legion is, it's three pillar.
It's a deep, balanced competitive shooter—that's the core, moment-to-moment gameplay. It's a sandbox experience, with some player versus environment in there mixed into that experience. That's important because that adds looting, and creation of value is getting you looting in these sandbox areas. And the third piece, the cement of that ecosystem, is the player-driven economy—player trading and stuff like that.
Two out of the three pillars? All new. It's a brand new experience. A different experience.
And all of this is still in the wrapper, which is the EVE universe, New Eden.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150...son-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html
That wording makes me wonder how long they're going to keep supporting Dust, especially as the already miniscule player-base dwindles as the PS3 diminishes as a platform. If they allow character transfers I wouldn't mind too much.
Honestly Dust was something they never should have greenlit, it was misguided from the very outset.
More like they assigned the Dust 514 team on something that may actually be profitable.
DiscoShark
Banned
As a person who has avidly played Dust since its closed beta period over a year ago this is a move that absolutely needed to happen and is one I can 100% agree with. The game as a concept was always limited by the platform it was on and I'm surprised and delighted that the EP is taking this bold step in cutting his losses and taking the necessary steps to bring the infantry side of New Eden to the place where it needs to be to realize its full potential.
The actual presentation of this though, as in the keynote itself?Pretty abysmal. It really sounded like they're dropping everything to shift to Legion development in earnest leaving the console players high and dry in the meantime, there was not a single word on how or whether or not Dust is being updated at all in the interim between Legion's release. Gotta do what you gotta do I suppose.
The actual presentation of this though, as in the keynote itself?Pretty abysmal. It really sounded like they're dropping everything to shift to Legion development in earnest leaving the console players high and dry in the meantime, there was not a single word on how or whether or not Dust is being updated at all in the interim between Legion's release. Gotta do what you gotta do I suppose.
KingGiddra
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He must have gotten broadsided. There wasn't so much as a Playstation logo near that keynote.
I mean heck two of those screenshots are of existing Dust environments.
Yeah, this is what happens when you pull the plug on a failed PS3 only F2P shooter. Had Dust been a success, financially and otherwise, they would have just ported it, but like I said previously, basing the game around PS3 spec was a terrible and extremely limiting idea.
Hence they are basically rebuilding the game (from a design standpoint) from the ground up on PC, and we will likely see a PS4 port in the future. Dust 514 will be remembered as the Project Legion beta test that will never leave PS3 and die a slow death.
To be fair to Dust it actually has very large environments.
Hopefully it is more cohesive than Planetside 2 and I hope that they have some mechanic to help the flow of the experience, something PS2 sucks at.
Yeah, this is what happens when you pull the plug on a failed PS3 only F2P shooter. Had Dust been a success, financially and otherwise, they would have just ported it, but like I said previously, basing the game around PS3 spec was a terrible and extremely limiting idea.
Hence they are basically rebuilding the game (from a design standpoint) from the ground up on PC, and we will likely see a PS4 port in the future. Dust 514 will be remembered as the Project Legion beta test that will never leave PS3 and die a slow death.
To be fair to Dust it actually has very large environments.
Hopefully it is more cohesive than Planetside 2 and I hope that they have some mechanic to help the flow of the experience, something PS2 sucks at.
KingGiddra
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What they're talking about with Legion is basically what DUST was scoped to be originally. A lot of the stuff they're talking about in Legion was planned for DUST. I assume they've just scrapped almost all of it due to technical limitations on the PS3.
The game is being made in Unreal?
JCG: Yeah!
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150...son-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html
The game is being made in Unreal?
JCG: Yeah!
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150...son-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html
Dust was on UE 3 already, so thats not really an info
DiscoShark
Banned
More like they shifted the Dust dev team over to the development of this, I'd expect a small skeleton crew to make sure there are no game breaking bugs but the majority of the team is probably working on Legion.
Agreed on Dust being misguided but I imagine CCP learned a bunch from the experience and Legion will be a much better game as a result. That said ... totally think Dust is dead. I don't see them putting much development time to bother updating it any further. We just got racial parity recently annnnd ... yeah!
Stop lying to yourself. CCP spent millions on WoD and it still was unfinished. Dust was done by a completely different dev team. Do you even know how many offices CCP has?
Well that's certainly different from Dust. I wonder what the PVE will involve and what percentage they of play time devoted to it they consider to be small.
After reading the rest of the article I see where they are coming from with this statement.
I hope CCP offers good PVE in their sandbox areas because it took them way too long to improve the pve in their main game from "paint drying" to below average.
While the non-existent price point is great for getting more people into the game I wonder if their game will be robust enough.
PS3 doesn't have technical limitations that prevented CCP from implementing these features. The problems were from the inexperience of the team.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Small as they may be the Dust community was dedicated
Majority of them have Gaming PCs and bought a PS3 to play the game
Regardless of having the new game appear on their main platform it kinda sucks for them to feel like being gunnie pigs
Does all their purchased content transfer?
How about their progress?
What will happen to the game, seeing as they said they had a long term vision with multiple new ideas like Magma Planets, spaceship invasion etc....
Kinda sucks
Majority of them have Gaming PCs and bought a PS3 to play the game
Regardless of having the new game appear on their main platform it kinda sucks for them to feel like being gunnie pigs
Does all their purchased content transfer?
How about their progress?
What will happen to the game, seeing as they said they had a long term vision with multiple new ideas like Magma Planets, spaceship invasion etc....
Kinda sucks
They will still updating Dust, but not to the same degree and can You really blame them? Do You even see Yourself playing MMO on PS3 two years from now?
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Seriously, who actually thought that they will support Dust on PS3 for more than 3 years?