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Salsa
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(12-10-2014, 05:31 PM)
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as spotted by Knurek, thought it deserved its own thread

this is how they're saying heroes of might and magic III looked to make the HD improvement seem that much more significant



uhhh what

edit: how the original HOMM3 really looked like





Last edited by Nirolak; 12-10-2014 at 08:34 PM.
Smellycat
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(12-10-2014, 05:32 PM)
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New? lol

Edit: Ah, I see what you are saying

bomblord1
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(12-10-2014, 05:32 PM)
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Can you show me screens of what it actually looked like?
Salsa
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(12-10-2014, 05:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smellycat

New? lol

Red Steel?

new in the sense that making older versions look worse seems to be the way to go now

Originally Posted by bomblord1

Can you show me screens of what it actually looked like?

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(12-10-2014, 05:32 PM)
backflip10019
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(12-10-2014, 05:32 PM)
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What did they actually look like?
tnaden
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(12-10-2014, 05:33 PM)
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New?

I guess they took these at 640p instead of 800p.
Sini
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(12-10-2014, 05:33 PM)
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Well, they got to continue their bullshot tradition somehow.
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(12-10-2014, 05:33 PM)
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is the title that confusing? everyone does bullshots, but rather than making the newer game look better than what it ends up looking, the "new" refers to making the older game look worse
commish
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(12-10-2014, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by META

Still my favorite.
Sir TapTap
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(12-10-2014, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark

new in the sense that making older versions look worse seems to be the way to go now

Wow what did they use for the "original" sprites, low quality settings at 240p?
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(12-10-2014, 05:34 PM)
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Ubisoft put themselves in the position where I no longer trust any of their marketing years and years ago. Nothin' new.
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(12-10-2014, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Smellycat

New? lol

[IMG]http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/704/704040/e3-red-steel-screens-20060501034051480.jpg[/MG]

So many and long discussions about the Wii being on par with the PS3 and Xbox 360 (just not HD!) based on the Red Bull bullshots.

Good memories.
jay
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)
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Reverse bullshots. What an exciting time to be alive!
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)

Originally Posted by SalsaShark

is the title that confusing? everyone does bullshots, but rather than making the newer game look better than what it ends up looking, the "new" refers to making the older game look worse

Yeah, should probably put that "what it really looked like" image in the OP.
Rayge
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)
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I think he's talking about a new way of bullshot ting where they make the original look worse than what it really was.

They did blow the pixel up. That always makes things look worse, but I don't think they did it on purpose. Maybe they did.
RMI
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)
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Sad that they feel like they have to make shit up to sell this absolute classic of a game.
TheMoon
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)
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The fake-old pixel art looks better than the actual old screenshot you posted. Also looks better than the "new" style.
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(12-10-2014, 05:35 PM)
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Haha , now this is true 'next-gen' marketing innovation
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(12-10-2014, 05:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark

is the title that confusing? everyone does bullshots, but rather than making the newer game look better than what it ends up looking, the "new" refers to making the older game look worse

you didnt provide a comparison when people like me didnt know what M&M3 looked like
Wolf Akela
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(12-10-2014, 05:36 PM)
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Heroes 3 on Android? Completely missed the news. Thanks OP
Nabbis
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(12-10-2014, 05:37 PM)
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Are there really no false advertisement laws or court rulings that might give grounds to a lawsuit? This is taking an old existing product and falsely changing it.
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(12-10-2014, 05:37 PM)

Originally Posted by TheMoon

The fake-old pixel art looks better than the actual old screenshot you posted. Also looks better than the "new" style.

The nostalgia is strong in this one. The "fake-old" stuff is a blurry mess :P
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(12-10-2014, 05:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark

is the title that confusing? everyone does bullshots, but rather than making the newer game look better than what it ends up looking, the "new" refers to making the older game look worse

It took me a moment to see what you were saying, perhaps "new/updated bullshot techique" would've been a better title
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(12-10-2014, 05:37 PM)
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Ubisoft, still the king.
Salsa
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(12-10-2014, 05:38 PM)
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what was that other game that did this too in advertising (tho to a much lesser extent)

RE4 HD?
Queen of Hunting
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(12-10-2014, 05:39 PM)
so basically a mild color pallete swap lol
artenight
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(12-10-2014, 05:39 PM)
Revisionism in gaming. Unity wasn't enough as a flop for them?
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(12-10-2014, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark

new in the sense that making older versions look worse seems to be the way to go now



Accounting for the amount of compression artifacting here, this would suggest that the new version is actually exactly the same as the original.

Edit:

Here's a screenshot from GOG:

Last edited by Nirolak; 12-10-2014 at 05:42 PM.
Sir TapTap
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(12-10-2014, 05:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheMoon

The fake-old pixel art looks better than the actual old screenshot you posted. Also looks better than the "new" style.

Aside from the piss-yellow outline ingame, no it most certainly does not. It wasn't designed for that res and thus looks completely terrible.
capitalCORN
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(12-10-2014, 05:41 PM)
Those HOMM sprites must have been from the DOS prototype they were working on...
Also I love how the Red Steel shot even features fake, nonsensical aliasing.
sobaka770
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(12-10-2014, 05:41 PM)
I don't know if it's possible with HoMM engine (2D sprites), but I'd like to see the final version, especially whether the "HD" actually means higher resolution pseudo-3D models for modern screens.

I thought the video looked weird, though.
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(12-10-2014, 05:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by PdotMichael

So many and long discussions about the Wii being on par with the PS3 and Xbox 360 (just not HD!) based on the Red Bull bullshots.

Good memories.

16 year old me was very confident Red Steel would look like that.
TheSlySoul
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(12-10-2014, 05:43 PM)
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So the downgraded the original sprites to make the new version look better?
Wow!
theusedversion
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(12-10-2014, 05:44 PM)
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So you're saying that they faked it by creating whole new pixel art for the characters/enemies that made them look worse than they actually did?

Not familiar with the game at all but could it have had a low quality setting on the original that made them look different or perhaps a different version entirely?
Napalm_Frank
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(12-10-2014, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark

what was that other game that did this too in advertising (tho to a much lesser extent)

RE4 HD?

Yup.

Also:

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(12-10-2014, 05:44 PM)
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At this point I can't be surprised by this stuff anymore. It's scummy, but sadly I've grown to expect things like this.
King Tubby
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(12-10-2014, 05:45 PM)

Originally Posted by META

This is amazing. What game is it from?

Originally Posted by Napalm_Frank

Oh wow.
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(12-10-2014, 05:46 PM)
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Wow, that almost looks like as big an improvement as Last of Us remaster!

New PS4 Joel:


Original PS3 character model:
Salsa
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(12-10-2014, 05:47 PM)
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thanks for the title change
Marmac
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(12-10-2014, 05:49 PM)
Wow. How do these scum bag companies get away with all this false advertising?
danmaku
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(12-10-2014, 05:49 PM)
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Welcome to the world of advertising, where everything is a lie.
Storm Kyleis
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(12-10-2014, 05:50 PM)
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You won't believe how good GTA V looks on PS4!

Last edited by Storm Kyleis; 12-10-2014 at 05:53 PM.
Zevenberge
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(12-10-2014, 05:50 PM)
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I got to give them bonus points for creativity.

Actually, scratch that.They'd be better of putting that creativity into their games.
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(12-10-2014, 05:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by -griffy-

Wow, that almost looks like as big an improvement as Last of Us remaster!

New PS4 Joel:


Original PS3 character model:

Now I want a LucasArts point and click version of the Last of Us.
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(12-10-2014, 05:51 PM)
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Ubisoft should get out of the business of making games and into the business of professionally bullshotting for other publishers.
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(12-10-2014, 05:53 PM)
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Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition on PS4:


Tomb Raider on PS3:
SillyNonsense
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(12-10-2014, 05:54 PM)
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Ubisoft continues to be a joke, don't buy from them anymore.
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(12-10-2014, 05:55 PM)
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wow, I really am starting to truly dislike Ubisoft now
hwateber
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(12-10-2014, 05:56 PM)
The pic in the op reminds me of the XBO/ps4 resolution gifs lol

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