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MGS:GZ - Looks and Performs a lot better on PS4...

RE_Player

Member
Whoever secured Titanfall as a exclusive at MS deserves a tremendous raise because it is the only thing keeping that console in my house.
Yup. Whoever had the foresight at Microsoft to lock that down deserves a raise. On a much smaller scale that PvZ Garden Warfare game was also a good get for them.
 

BadWolf

Member
Whoever secured Titanfall as a exclusive at MS deserves a tremendous raise because it is the only thing keeping that console in my house.

Wonder if it will be that big a deal for the system when its also hitting the 360 and PC.

Same with the new Yakuza that is launching with PS4 in Japan, doesn't seem like a big deal since its also coming to PS3.
 

btkadams

Member
Well... it's official. We never have to make another PS4 version of game X is better. It should always be instantly assumed that it is. We should instead make threads when Xbone is better than PS4 as that will be the real surprise.
What do you mean? Kojima already said the PS4 version was better, so wouldn't that mean this thread wouldn't get made?

It's still interesting and it will be interesting for a while longer, just like it was this entire past gen. People like to know the differences.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Sounds awesome. Getting GZ day one for PS4.

Even if the xbox version performed better, it would feel weird playing on xbox. Yes I know about all the MG games on platforms that are not playstation, but to me its a playstation franchise. Thats how I grew up with it.
 
What do you mean? Kojima already said the PS4 version was better, so wouldn't that mean this thread wouldn't get made?

It's still interesting and it will be interesting for a while longer, just like it was this entire past gen. People like to know the differences.

Kojima said PS4 was "slightly better". People who've put hands on the game say otherwise. There is a difference between slightly and way better.
 
I don't really understand his tweet. How can he finish it in 90 mins and only have 9% of the game complete?


I'd assume there's a shit ton of grinding like in Peace Walker. PW's story can be done in like 7hrs, but 100% takes over 100hrs.
Shit, that game is so grindy you have to grind missions, items and operations just to get the real ending.
 
Last generation we got digital foundry articles posted here for nearly every game comparing ps3 and 360. Why should it be any different now? Customers have the right to be informed. The press should not cover up or try to hide differences like they tried to do before the ps4 and x1 came out.
 
Sounds awesome. Getting GZ day one for PS4.

Even if the xbox version performed better, it would feel weird playing on xbox. Yes I know about all the MG games on platforms that are not playstation, but to me its a playstation franchise. Thats how I grew up with it.

Totally agree. It just wouldn't feel right.
 
What do you expect them to do? Hey we built inferior hardware everybody! People want them to fess up or something. Nobody is going to do that.

They should have stuck with their TV, TV, Football, TV strategy. That's their only real point of differentiation. There is nothing wrong with being an underpowered console, in fact some of my favorite past consoles were underdogs, but they need to quit trying to represent the console as something that it isn't.
 

Skenzin

Banned
They should have stuck with their TV, TV, Football, TV strategy. That's their only real point of differentiation. There is nothing wrong with being an underpowered console, in fact some of my favorite past consoles were underdogs, but they need to quit trying to represent the console as something that it isn't.

My only beef is they priced the console as something it is not. At $399 the Bone would of had some value, yeah its weaker but it has Kinect and some neat TV features to make up for it. At $499, I find that pricing insulting. Its a horrible price vs value ratio if youre a gamer considering the competition. And for the record I was severely underwhelmed by Forza's graphics. It could easily be mistaken for a 360 game.
 
This is probably sarcasm, but in case anyone missed it from the other thread...

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This doesn't really say anything.

Are we supposed to infer that there are 10 campaigns or main missions in this thing?
 

KOHIPEET

Member
Not talk about it. Focus on the strengths of the console.

I agree, but. Well...it's certainly not an easy task. For the general, casual audiance maybe, but for the core gamers? IMO, no. Try to explain them that there's a camera which allows the console to accept visual and voice commands, or that they can watch tv on it. Most of them (not factoring in brand-loyalty here) would instantly consider it a gimmick.

IMO, Microsoft's strategy should be to FUD the casuals with statements like Penello's, rely heavily on exclusives with the core gamers and advertise Kinect and TV to the general audience. If they go down this road, Xbox 1 sales should at least meet their expectations.
 

nib95

Banned
Whoever secured Titanfall as a exclusive at MS deserves a tremendous raise because it is the only thing keeping that console in my house.

True, but Respawn can't be too happy about it. I'm sure EA is rolling around in the money Microsoft threw at them, but in reality it could have sold a lot more on the PS4 compared to whatever it does on the Xbox One.
 
True, but Respawn can't be too happy about it. I'm sure EA is rolling around in the money Microsoft threw at them, but in reality it could have sold a lot more on the PS4 compared to whatever it does on the Xbox One.

Not to mention the negative impact on "growing the brand" that other series have experienced under similar situations.
 
microsoft has a serious problem on their hands. When EVERY game released on both gets higher praise for Sony, MS is doing something horribly wrong. I would say it's embarrassing but I'm too busy enjoying my superior games on PS4 :)
 

zebwinz

Member
While I'm 100% sure the PS4 version will look better, these two tweets are from a Playstation magazine editor and a guy who writes for/owns a video game trivia site. Not exactly Digital Foundry right there
 

KOHIPEET

Member
True, but Respawn can't be too happy about it. I'm sure EA is rolling around in the money Microsoft threw at them, but in reality it could have sold a lot more on the PS4 compared to whatever it does on the Xbox One.

But the possibility for the sequel (if there will be one) to be multiplat is still there isn't it?
I know there was a tweet from Respawn that imlied a deal was made for everything that comes after the first, but aside from that tweet we didn't get any confirmation did we?
 
So unexpected /s

Are we really going to have a thread every single time a games looks and performs better on PS4? Isn't that kinda obvious at this point? So stupid.

I'm not getting the game for my PS4 anyway. I don't want to pay for a fucking demo.


Sounds awesome. Getting GZ day one for PS4.

Even if the xbox version performed better, it would feel weird playing on xbox. Yes I know about all the MG games on platforms that are not playstation, but to me its a playstation franchise. Thats how I grew up with it.

Not this bullshit again, please. This is "FFXIII coming to Xbox 360" all over again.
 

EL CUCO

Member
So unexpected /s

Are we really going to have a thread every single time a games looks and performs better on PS4? Isn't that kinda obvious at this point? So stupid.

I'm not getting the game for my PS4 anyway. I don't want to pay for a fucking demo.




Not this bullshit again, please. This is "FFXIII coming to Xbox 360" all over again.

Feel free to browse any other thread, maybe?
 

UnrealEck

Member
Could Sony do that? I mean legally? Is there anything preventing the no to? (Aside from their intention to appear humble this generation?)

That could be a tool for them to use graphical advantages as a marketing tool.

They could but then you would have people like me bringing up how the PC version of a multiplat is actually the definitive edition.
 

Deadbeat

Banned
This doesn't really say anything.

Are we supposed to infer that there are 10 campaigns or main missions in this thing?
Some people dont understand that the percentage scale could be more heavily weighed to collectibles. But I wouldnt expect anything well thought out to be posted on twitter.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Member
But the possibility for the sequel (if there will be one) to be multiplat is still there isn't it?
I know there was a tweet from Respawn that imlied a deal was made for everything that comes after the first, but aside from that tweet we didn't get any confirmation did we?

While I'd like to see a sequel to Titanfall go multiplat (would still buy it on PC here, but regardless), I think if it does well for MS on the XB1, you're going to see them kind of pushed into a corner where they will lay out just about any amount of money to keep it an Xbox console exclusive.

I still don't think it's a given that the CoD-only crowd will swarm to a game with a largely sci-fi setting tho. I've got mixed reactions from friends who love military shooters like CoD or Battlefield, but lose interest as soon as mechs and parkour are mentioned.

Definitely interested to see how the game does, could go either way at this point, I think it'll do well regardless, but I don't think it will do Call of Duty well.
 

Gnub

Member
I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't have any legal in place to prevent this kind of comparison from getting out before the game launches.
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
This is beating a dead horse. Both console have very similar architecture, with one having a considerable advantage on memory bandwidth and GPU performance. Things won't change.
 
I'd assume there's a shit ton of grinding like in Peace Walker. PW's story can be done in like 7hrs, but 100% takes over 100hrs.
Shit, that game is so grindy you have to grind missions, items and operations just to get the real ending.

I have to shake my head when I see people talking about how great Peace Walker was. How many times can you play all that same handful of tiny levels over and over without going insane? Run through them forwards, run through them backwards, capture all the dudes, kill all the dudes, don't kill any dudes, only kill this one dude... Sure, the 'content' was there, but I had no interest in playing it. Hell, I'd seen enough of them in my main story playthrough alone just because of all the backtracking; by the time I'd seen the real ending I never wanted to play that game again.

That's the main reason I have no expectations for Ground Zeroes' side missions. If they turn out to have some actual substance, that'll be a nice surprise, but for now I remain utterly skeptical.
 
I think they happen mostly because the MS mafia is out there saying things like "have you seen Forza?" and constantly down playing it...but what else can they say? :/

Why do people care about what developers or PR people tell you about performance?

Faster hardware = more performance. PS4 has faster hardware then the XBOX one.

The end.
 

ElfArmy177

Member
People use Forza as an example of the Xbone's power?

Oh geez.

Yea I dont get it. Played it recently at a GameStop kiosk. Game looks like dog shit... Sorry. I own both consoles but god damn if people are gloating about forza 5... All is lost for Xbox las
 

RetroStu

Banned
People use Forza as an example of the Xbone's power?

Oh geez.

To be fair, you really have to see Forza in person to appreciate it. It looks average to awful in screen shots and crappy Youtube vids but i was blown away when i saw it on a big tv in my local GAME. It was the same thing with Fifa which looks god damn awful in screens and Youtube vids but i couldn't believe how good it looked when i actually saw the game in person.
 

ZenTzen

Member
Same here, if it wasn't for titanfall the one would have been craiglisted.

but is titanfall even that interesting, after seeing the game in action and then seeing a game like evolve, the later seems far more interesting a MP game than titanfall
 
So unexpected /s

Are we really going to have a thread every single time a games looks and performs better on PS4? Isn't that kinda obvious at this point? So stupid.

I'm not getting the game for my PS4 anyway. I don't want to pay for a fucking demo.




Not this bullshit again, please. This is "FFXIII coming to Xbox 360" all over again.

So you think it makes no sense for us to discuss the differences between two products advertising the same experience? You think XB1 owners should just go in under the assumption that every multi platform game will always be better on the PS4 so why talk about it?
 

VanWinkle

Member
I love these threads about differences. Both for the actual discussion of differences and the equal amount of posts saying "Are we really going to have this kind of thread every time a game has differences?" By now you should know the answer is yes, but, yet, we get dozens of people pondering its existence every time.
 

FacelessSamurai

..but cry so much I wish I had some
Considering the sources of the tweets, I find it hard to believe. Wasn't it said that both versions were 1080p? And Kojima said himself that the PS4 version had a slight advantage.

I find it hard to trust games journalists anymore when most of them don't even know what they are talking about most of the time on a technical level. My guess is Xbone version will be almost identical to PS4 version but will have a lower framerate, kind of like what we have seen with TRDE.

I'll be getting the Xbone version since that is the console that I own, and I am not worried in the slightest as the game will be great anyway!
And by the way, Forza 5 is indeed a gorgeous game!
 
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