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There's absolutely no chance that Sony would ever make a Demon's Souls 2 (right?)

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Hopefully they are working on a Shadow Tower Abyss / Kings Field spiritual successor with 1st person combat up to the standards of Dark Souls. Could be a big success. Most first person games built around melee combat do a piss poor job especially the number one seller in the genre.

If they made a new shadow tower abyss or hell even just redid a HD version with updates to the game itself that would be a huge seller I bet. Since goddamn that game was full of atmosphere and by far harder than both Souls games.
 
That "We'll see" is very telling. If something was currently in the works he wouldn't say that. If Dark Souls 2 does better than the first, they might CONSIDER it. If not, no way they consider it for the foreseable future
 
I just want to return to Boletaria and find out what happened after the False King was defeated and the Old One returned to slumber. What of Yuria or Biorr or Thomas, and so on. Although the plot and storytelling was utterly minimal I loved it and got completely wrapped up in the world and its oblique environmental storytelling. Dark Souls just didn't click with me in the same way.

My recollection of events is a bit hazy as I've not played it properly in about 3.5 years, but I believe the Maiden in Black said that once the Old One returned to slumber the Soul Arts would disappear with it and I guess the colourless fog and demonic presence would leave the kingdom too? Well, the way I see a sequel happening is that despite the Old One returning to sleep (let's assume that's the canon ending, as there was a trophy for doing just that, but not the opposite), many of the giants and creatures in the Northern Territory had become powerful enough and corrupt enough to survive even without the Old One's presence (as that was the first territory to succumb to the colourless fog), and, in turn, feed the corruption of smaller or lesser demons. I like to think the game would begin with the last Monumental giving its dwindling life force to resurrect Garl Vinland as a champion of the light, with the opportunity to bring back Maiden Astraea's soul from the underworld if he succeeds (I found the story of Garl and Astraea beautiful and wonderfully played). There are demons in the Northern Land of the Giants who have become as powerful as the False King, and like a pyramid their power feeds those underneath, so the heroes again have to defeat the Archdemons. Say, there's six Archdemons, and underneath them another nine who could absorb the power and fill the void if the Archdemons die first. You could also have to contend with the mysterious society for whom Mephistopheles worked (not sure it was ever given a name) who try to stop Vinland's quest as they want the demons to remain, and the first arc of the quest would be to travel to the Northern Land by foot, and maybe recover a fragment of its Archstone so they a gateway between there and the Nexus can be created anew.

Anyway, rambled a bit there, but I seriously love the world created in Demon's Souls and that's what I'd like to see from the premise in a sequel.
 

kick51

Banned
There is already a Demon's Souls 2 game, it's called Dark Souls. Demon's Souls 3 is coming out real soon. I wish people would stop clinging to it because it reeks of desperation, a well received PS exclusive that slipped through their fingers.


ok have fun with that
 
Whatever Miyazaki is doing, I'm sure all Souls fans will enjoy it. Me included ;D

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If the Sony x FROM game happens it wont be called Demons Souls 2. Maybe it will be Demons "something else" Or "Something else" Souls but I dont see them doing DS2
 

Phaenos

Member
My guess is he is on a next-gen project. Souls related? Probably seeing as it's From's premier series now. I guess it comes down to whether it's a partnership with Sony, or just From gearing up for a next-gen title two years from now.

My body is ready for a next-gen modern update to King's Field. I can't be the only one.
 

JJD

Member
Wow. You are trying too hard.

Deal with it, Dark Souls is Demon's Souls 2. The only diference is the name because Demon's Souls is a Sony IP, but everything else is exactly (or almost) the same.

Sony can use the Demon's Souls IP and hire a new developer, but it won't be the same because FROM is not going to be involved in any way. Having "Demon's Souls" in the title doesn't make a Demon's Souls game. If Capcom develops games in the vein of Monster Hunter is only because they know how to do it.

You're the one trying too hard. How can you be so sure From isn't involved? Sony can name it Demon's Souls 2 or even create a new IP and people will eat it up. The only thing that matters is if it's developed by From and by the looks of it Sony and From have a great relationship.
 
If the Sony x FROM game happens it wont be called Demons Souls 2. Maybe it will be Demons "something else" Or "Something else" Souls but I dont see them doing DS2

gut feeling? why would you not call a demon's souls sequel/prequel demon's souls? doesn't that sorta defeat the whole point?...

You're the one trying too hard. How can you be so sure From isn't involved? Sony can name it Demon's Souls 2 or even create a new IP and people will eat it up. The only thing that matters is if it's developed by From and by the looks of it Sony and From have a great relationship.

yep. we're talking about a game that'd already have a fanbase...
 

keit4

Banned
You're the one trying too hard. How can you be so sure From isn't involved? Sony can name it Demon's Souls 2 or even create a new IP and people will eat it up. The only thing that matters is if it's developed by From and by the looks of it Sony and From have a great relationship.

Welp, FROM is in the multiplat boat now. You are delusional if you think they are going back to develop a platform exclusive without some kind of incentive (i mean cash, a lot of it, something that Sony lacks of).
 

injurai

Banned
Welp, FROM is in the multiplat boat now. You are delusional if you think that they are going back to develop a platform exclusive without some kind of incentive (i mean cash, a lot of it, something that Sony lacks of).

Unless Sony publishes the game like they would for any other 2nd party studio. Right now From is only really capable of self-publishing in Japan. I think there is benefit in them working with Sony. They don't want to have idle developer teams, and it's safer partnering than taking a huge risk. They will continue with their Souls games independently, but certainly they have teams looking to do other stuff.
 

feel

Member
I'm a huge Demon Souls fan, but FROM and Miyazaki going back to do a Sony exclusive Souls game would be fucked up thing to do considering they now also have a passionate fanbase on xbox and pc. If sony wants to do DeS2 internally, fine, but FROM/Miyazaki's next big Souls should be available in multiple platforms so it can easily be enjoyed by all the Dark Souls fans.
 

Deadstar

Member
For those who have never played Demons or Dark Souls (might get Dark Souls 1 for PC), what's the difference between the two?

The biggest difference is that Demon's Souls has a hub world where you warp into each section of the game and Dark Souls is an open world. There are many other differences as well but the structure is the biggest one.
 
Welp, FROM is in the multiplat boat now. You are delusional if you think they are going back to develop a platform exclusive without some kind of incentive (i mean cash, a lot of it, something that Sony lacks of).

From are not a huge studio, and they're still open to for hire work. I doubt they're in the position to turn down work from a major publisher like Sony.
 

kpaadet

Member
I'm a huge Demon Souls fan, but FROM and Miyazaki going back to do a Sony exclusive Souls game would be fucked up thing to do considering they now also have a passionate fanbase on xbox and pc. If sony wants to do DeS2 internally, fine, but FROM/Miyazaki's next big Souls should be available in multiple platforms so it can easily be enjoyed by all the Dark Souls fans.

This comes off as very entitled but I'll play along. Since the Soul games started on the PS3 and it was the "passionate fanbase" there that made it successful it shouldn't be a big surprise if another Soul-like game ended up on PS3/4 only.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Give it to Ninja Theory.
made by Platinum.
Sony should give this IP to Santa Monica.
Why, GAF, why? I hope those are just 3 bad joke posts.

Sony exclusivity.
Horseshit.
Or it could be, and I know I'm talking crazy talk here, that perhaps the people that enjoyed Demon's Souls enjoyed it not just for the game play, but for the interesting universe and setting, and the lore that surrounds that awesome game play, and they want more of it. I know! Crazy, right?

Not everything is console wars bullshit.
This. People want a direct (non-spiritual) sequel to a game they loved? Oh it must be console war bullshit right. WTF.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
Why, GAF, why? I hope those are just 3 bad joke posts.


Horseshit.

This. People want a direct (non-spiritual) sequel to a game they loved? Oh it must be console war bullshit right. WTF.

Holy shit, I completely forgot I posted in this thread, and was about to post the same shit I posted before. Lol.

But yeah, my opinion still stands. I fucking love Demon's Souls, and I fucking love Dark Souls. But one of the things that I think Demon's did better was the lore and universe. I thought it was tied to the gameplay much better than Dark Souls. Dark Souls improved on some gameplay elements in Demon's, and I'd imagine a Demon's 2 (or spiritual successor) would improve on gameplay elements the Dark series have established. It's just how these things go.

I'm actually amazed that some people are getting genuinely upset at the idea of more games like Demon's/Dark Souls! Like, that actually blows my fucking mind. "I love this type of game! What? There could be more of the type of game I love! Do not want!!" It's fucking absurd.

The more games like Demon's/Dark Souls the better in my opinion, as long as the quality is there. The atmosphere, lore, and gameplay are the biggest draw for me. I'm generally not a fan of brutally hard games, but the Demon's/Dark titles have never frustrated me. I've always felt that when I died, it was because I fucked up; I misjudged an enemy, didn't position myself in the environment in an advantageous way, or just rushed bulldog ahead and got my shit ruined. I never felt like either game was being cheap or dirty. I just beat Sen's Fortress in Dark 1, and felt like a fucking boss. I just haven't had the time to continue my playthrough, and I'll get Dark 2 at some point later on, when my backlog is smaller/have more time to play games. Wanting more Demon's Souls has absolutely nothing to do with console wars. I feel like those that keep bringing that up are projecting really fucking hard.

A Vita Dark or Demon's Souls would be heaven, however. I'll take a port of either. To be able to play those games on the go would be awesome. In the meantime, I'll love both series, and hope it inspires more developers to, not so much make copycats, but re-evaluate how they implement skill/challenge, and narrative in their games. Demon's and Dark are very minimal in surface narrative, but the hidden narrative that is tucked away in both games in impressive. I just think Demon's had a more cohesive, fully realized world compared to Dark. I just want more of both, really.
 

Fhtagn

Member
If you've just beaten Sen's, there's a ton of Dark Souls lore you haven't encountered yet; personally, I think Dark's story is way deeper/more textured than Demon's. YMMV, of course.
 

Tex117

Banned
Holy shit, I completely forgot I posted in this thread, and was about to post the same shit I posted before. Lol.

But yeah, my opinion still stands. I fucking love Demon's Souls, and I fucking love Dark Souls. But one of the things that I think Demon's did better was the lore and universe. I thought it was tied to the gameplay much better than Dark Souls. Dark Souls improved on some gameplay elements in Demon's, and I'd imagine a Demon's 2 (or spiritual successor) would improve on gameplay elements the Dark series have established. It's just how these things go.

I'm actually amazed that some people are getting genuinely upset at the idea of more games like Demon's/Dark Souls! Like, that actually blows my fucking mind. "I love this type of game! What? There could be more of the type of game I love! Do not want!!" It's fucking absurd.

The more games like Demon's/Dark Souls the better in my opinion, as long as the quality is there. The atmosphere, lore, and gameplay are the biggest draw for me. I'm generally not a fan of brutally hard games, but the Demon's/Dark titles have never frustrated me. I've always felt that when I died, it was because I fucked up; I misjudged an enemy, didn't position myself in the environment in an advantageous way, or just rushed bulldog ahead and got my shit ruined. I never felt like either game was being cheap or dirty. I just beat Sen's Fortress in Dark 1, and felt like a fucking boss. I just haven't had the time to continue my playthrough, and I'll get Dark 2 at some point later on, when my backlog is smaller/have more time to play games. Wanting more Demon's Souls has absolutely nothing to do with console wars. I feel like those that keep bringing that up are projecting really fucking hard.

A Vita Dark or Demon's Souls would be heaven, however. I'll take a port of either. To be able to play those games on the go would be awesome. In the meantime, I'll love both series, and hope it inspires more developers to, not so much make copycats, but re-evaluate how they implement skill/challenge, and narrative in their games. Demon's and Dark are very minimal in surface narrative, but the hidden narrative that is tucked away in both games in impressive. I just think Demon's had a more cohesive, fully realized world compared to Dark. I just want more of both, really.
I agree with you...so much.

I just want more...
 
Welp, FROM is in the multiplat boat now. You are delusional if you think they are going back to develop a platform exclusive without some kind of incentive (i mean cash, a lot of it, something that Sony lacks of).

I don't care if they intend to make a version for every damn platform available. I want another Demon's Souls. I don't mind the spiritual successor (it's quite good) but, most people who really loved Demon's Souls will tell you that Dark Souls is not Demon's Souls 2.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
I don't care if they intend to make a version for every damn platform available. I want another Demon's Souls. I don't mind the spiritual successor (it's quite good) but, most people who really loved Demon's Souls will tell you that Dark Souls is not Demon's Souls 2.

So true. And for me, that's not a criticism of Dark Souls, but many that love Dark Souls often take it as such. As similar as a lot of gameplay elements are, they are still very different games, each with imperfections and things they do better than the other.
 

Melchiah

Member
I'm a huge Demon Souls fan, but FROM and Miyazaki going back to do a Sony exclusive Souls game would be fucked up thing to do considering they now also have a passionate fanbase on xbox and pc. If sony wants to do DeS2 internally, fine, but FROM/Miyazaki's next big Souls should be available in multiple platforms so it can easily be enjoyed by all the Dark Souls fans.

As fucked up as moving Resident Evil to Gamecube, away from its original fanbase? Point being, these things happen when the goal is to increase the userbase, whether it's against the wishes of the fanbase or not. Considering the franchise started on the PS3, it wouldn't be as bad for the original fans, as REmake on GC was.
 
I'm a huge Demon Souls fan, but FROM and Miyazaki going back to do a Sony exclusive Souls game would be fucked up thing to do considering they now also have a passionate fanbase on xbox and pc. If sony wants to do DeS2 internally, fine, but FROM/Miyazaki's next big Souls should be available in multiple platforms so it can easily be enjoyed by all the Dark Souls fans.

It would be like the creators of a hugely popular multiplatform series, like Call of Duty for example, creating a new FPS with a publisher that ends up cutting a deal so it only appears on one competitor's platform.
 

Mxrz

Member
The whole "They just want Sony exclusive!" thing is pure bullshit. Demon's had a entirely different atmosphere, and the bullshit bonfire system is a big !#%! change in gameplay. The overlap between SCEJ and From is more than people acknowledge, too.

I don't know if we'll ever see it, but I damn sure want to. What I don't get is this belief that there can only be one Souls-type game on the market. That having more of something, having options is 'bad.'
 

JJD

Member
From are not a huge studio, and they're still open to for hire work. I doubt they're in the position to turn down work from a major publisher like Sony.

From is a medium to small studio. I don't know if they can self fund and publish even only on Japan at the moment. Dark Souls is their biggest game right now and it's owned by Namco. Armored Core was a considerable franchise on the PS2 days but not anymore. What else have they got?

They not only cannot turn down work from major publishers, but they probably actively seek it. The last game From published by itself was Ninja Blade in 2009 if I'm not mistaken. All the other games in the last years were hired work published by either Namco or Capcom (Steel Battalion).

For all his talk about "fanboys" and "exclusives", in reality that keit4 dude sounds like the biggest fanboy of all, aggressively downplaying every possibility of a new Sony/From Souls game. He seems really invested! LOL!

"Sony doesn't have the money to do a Demon's Souls 2!!!!"

I guess a dev like Ready at Dawn is making an AAA game like The Order for free since they are not owned by Sony, the game is exclusive for the PS4 and Sony doesn't have money to pay. How nice of them!

I'm sure From would be happy to do an exclusive for MS, but unfortunately they seem to be more interested in FPS games and NFL deals. From a business perspective I can even understand it. The last time I heard Dark Souls had sold 2.4 million on all platforms since april last year. A game like Titanfall is going to sell that number on it's first weeks across just the 360.
 

Cyberia

Member

RK9039

Member
Imo the only interesting part about the lore of Demon's Souls was the broken arch stone (Northern Lands).

Not sure where they would go with a direct sequel. I find the lore of Dark Souls far more interesting.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
There is zero chance.



Demon's Souls is way better than Dark Souls,Dark was a huge let down,unbalanced soulless mess and has too many flaws.

Demons Souls was also an unbalanced mess. Magic alone was hilariously broken. Dont even front.
 

Bundy

Banned
It would be like the creators of a hugely popular multiplatform series, like Call of Duty for example, creating a new FPS with a publisher that ends up cutting a deal so it only appears on one competitor's platform.
You mean like Monster Hunter (Sony PSP) suddenly being a Nintendo 3DS exclusive?
 

jaded_up_

Banned
Welp, FROM is in the multiplat boat now. You are delusional if you think they are going back to develop a platform exclusive without some kind of incentive (i mean cash, a lot of it, something that Sony lacks of).

Holy shit, this post. What do you mean they're in the multiplat boat now? They've made games for the Dreamcast all the way to mobile phones for the last 20 years. You have no idea what you're on about with your proxy console war bollocks.
 

MercuryLS

Banned
It's been heavily hinted by Sony insiders here that a DeS spinoff is coming exclusively to PS4. I'd imagine it's another collab between Japan Studio and FROM software.
 

Timmy00

Member
I wouldn't mind a Demon's Souls 2 but I vastly prefer Dark Souls over Demon's Souls. More Souls (if done well ofc) is never a bad thing imo though. :p
 
Demon's Souls > Dark Souls (I love both, but it's true)

I'd love a Demon's Souls Vita

Both of these...

From Software only, please. There's too many "it's too [this], it's too [that]" naysayers for me to have faith anybody else wouldn't come in and just give nothing but ground all over the place. Dark Souls is already where it went, we have what we want already. Demon Souls 2 would just be redundant for anything more than going back to a nexus layout and being able to freely reuse certain names and lore.

Fanboy basking is a tempting scenario but the guy who said it wasn't a good game, and passed over it for us, is not worthy.
 
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