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PaRappa the Rapper told me to drop dead.

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Zephyrus

Banned
No, that's wrong.

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To which OP responded with:

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There was no low balling. Dred was the one who brought up the possibility of lowering the price, and both parties agreed to it.

EDIT:

Fucking irony.

I mean no disrespect... but how the fuck did you not see a scam coming?

"My schedule is full but I can make time if you send 100$ today because I'm working on a new parappa that's about to be released" (which if it were true, he would be breaking NDA's)

Come on. You were gullible. He took advantage of it. What makes it even more sad, is that you were scammed by the village idiot.

Move on. You learned a life lesson. You don't give money to anyone you do not personally know and trust. Next time you want to work with someone and there's money involved, sign a contract.
 

Camjo-Z

Member
I mean no disrespect... but how the fuck did you not see a scam coming?

"My schedule is full but I can make time if you send 100$ today because I'm working on a new parappa that's about to be released" (which if it were true, he would be breaking NDA's)

He was actually referring to doing promos for PlayStation All-Stars. He never did any, of course, but we didn't know that.

Next time, leave it to Lammy.

Camjo-Z: No, I'm sorry. I just want lines that are cool and cheap, and of course the sound quality's gotta be superior.

Sara Ramirez: A greedy girl, ain't ya?

Camjo-Z: Oh please, I'll do anything, anything. Please!

The camera moves to a dark, shocking close-up of Sara's face with eyes gleaming.

Sara Ramirez: Anything?
 

DaBlackNerd

Neo Member
Sigh.

I have lurked for years and even when I got an account I never post..hell I barely log in most of the time but I wanted to really comment on this situation to give a lot of you some perspective from a person who owns a business and hires people. I worked in Television/Film and Broadcast Production for years before starting my own business and trying to parlay that into gaming. I have written many contracts, had many verbal agreements, handshake agreements etc etc.I want to explain my candid thoughts from reading this and why this is devastating to only OP.

Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

One of my mentors said this to me when I was first starting out in TV...."Be careful when you decide to drag someones name through the mud because its impossible not to get a little dirty yourself."

I am not saying that OP isnt correct I am saying the way in which he has gone about it has only hurt him and you have to be smarter about these things. As an employer how in the hell could I hire you for any job at my company? (Clearly not my real company..I am not saying my company is great or desirable I am just taking that perceptive for the sake of this topic) So you come into my office for a job interview and this is what I see and this is gonna sound harsh and I am sorry for that but I do want to do you the favor of what I really think as someone who hires people.

1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets? Like I said and trust me I am far from rich or super successful but as a business owner I piss out a hundred bucks virtually everyday. You basically are trying to shame a guy for the equivalent of a ink cartage.

For Christ sake, depending on what state you live in it would cost you up to half of that to file in small claims to get it back. Its like finding a spider in your room so you go get a flamethrower and burn down the house. I am not saying that you shouldnt pursue this..actually I am saying that...its really not worth it. As they say you are not a professional until someone owes you money. Treat this as a learning experience and move on. If that is not enough there are ways to go about resolve the situation that are much better than what you have chosen.

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.
 

Zephyrus

Banned
He was actually referring to doing promos for PlayStation All-Stars. He never did any, of course, but we didn't know that.



Camjo-Z: No, I'm sorry. I just want lines that are cool and cheap, and of course the sound quality's gotta be superior.

Sara Ramirez: A greedy girl, ain't ya?

Camjo-Z: Oh please, I'll do anything, anything. Please!

The camera moves to a dark, shocking close-up of Sara's face with eyes gleaming.

Sara Ramirez: Anything?

this happened in december, right? 2013 december, right?

Quite late for some promos... actually even if it was in 2012 december is would still be late.
 
Doesn't sound assholish at all, it sounds weak.

It doesn't take a massive amount of effort for him to keep this up, and it ruins the guys name. Perhaps the voice actor was naive thinking nothing would come of it?

You obviously haven't have much dealings with these kind of people.

Im saying to you straight. You can pursue this to the furthest extent of the law and the dude will still not pay up. You can send baliffs round to his home and there will be of nothing of worth in his name to take.

Its a bunch of hassle and you probably still wont get shit. If the guy cared about his image, rep, credit even in the slightest, things wouldn't of got as far as they already have.

Sigh.

I have lurked for years and even when I got an account I never post..hell I barely log in most of the time but I wanted to really comment on this situation to give a lot of you some perspective from a person who owns a business and hires people. I worked in Television/Film and Broadcast Production for years before starting my own business and trying to parlay that into gaming. I have written many contracts, had many verbal agreements, handshake agreements etc etc.I want to explain my candid thoughts from reading this and why this is devastating to only OP.

Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

One of my mentors said this to me when I was first starting out in TV...."Be careful when you decide to drag someones name through the mud because its impossible not to get a little dirty yourself."

I am not saying that OP isnt correct I am saying the way in which he has gone about it has only hurt him and you have to be smarter about these things. As an employer how in the hell could I hire you for any job at my company? (Clearly not my real company..I am not saying my company is great or desirable I am just taking that perceptive for the sake of this topic) So you come into my office for a job interview and this is what I see and this is gonna sound harsh and I am sorry for that but I do want to do you the favor of what I really think as someone who hires people.

1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets? Like I said and trust me I am far from rich or super successful but as a business owner I piss out a hundred bucks virtually everyday. You basically are trying to shame a guy for the equivalent of a ink cartage.

For Christ sake, depending on what state you live in it would cost you up to half of that to file in small claims to get it back. Its like finding a spider in your room so you go get a flamethrower and burn down the house. I am not saying that you shouldnt pursue this..actually I am saying that...its really not worth it. As they say you are not a professional until someone owes you money. Treat this as a learning experience and move on. If that is not enough there are ways to go about resolve the situation that are much better than what you have chosen.

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.

I wasn't even thinking of this side of things, but yes, this too. Even the big boys fuck you over. The minute you start crying about it online, you only damage your own rep.
 

GatorBait

Member
I'm assuming you don't live in the same state as Dred does, OP, but if you do, you should definitely file a claim for breach of contract in small claims court. Despite it not being in a formal written form, you do have what appears to be a legally enforceable contract. Taking PaRappa to court and winning would be one hell of a story (even more so than this craziness already is).
 

kamorra

Fuck Cancer
Sigh.

I have lurked for years and even when I got an account I never post..hell I barely log in most of the time but I wanted to really comment on this situation to give a lot of you some perspective from a person who owns a business and hires people.

That's... a strange choice for you first post here.
 

jcm

Member
Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

Did you just compare a dude who needs to get thirty bucks moneygrammed from a couple of college kids to Charlie Sheen?
 

Camjo-Z

Member
this happened in december, right? 2013 december, right?

Quite late for some promos... actually even if it was in 2012 december is would still be late.

This was in October 2012.


I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. It's not as if I went and started posting this everywhere the second things went wrong. It took nearly a year and a half of poor communication from him and comical amounts of verbal abuse over Facebook for me to decide this was worth showing on NeoGAF.

And I certainly wouldn't want to work for any employer who would judge all my future actions regarding money and securing business deals based on something I did at 18.

Lesson? Don't make business deals through Facebook.

This is the last time I get Scrooged!
 

Zephyrus

Banned
I'm assuming you don't live in the same state as Dred does, OP, but if you do, you should definitely file a claim for breach of contract in small claims court. Despite it not being in a formal written form, you do have what appears to be a legally enforceable contract. Taking PaRappa to court and winning would be one hell of a story (even more so than this craziness already is).

and a waste of money.

The OP has basically harassed Parappa's VA for OVER A YEAR for 100 dollars.

He doesn't strike me as someone with money to spend on fruitless endevors.
 

Gori

Member
Sigh.

...lots of words

Hello. I have also owned a business and hired lots of people. I think your post is stupid.

OP wants to make fan video and nicely contacts person via the only way of contact he has (facebook) and person changes his mind and won't pay back, following which he acts like complete idiot about his supposed fame. Even if $100 is something you "piss out everyday" it doesn't have to be to everyone - and there's nothing wrong with that. Business deal is business deal. And if you do have some fame you better take care of it. He could have got another fun video that spread his fame a bit more, instead he got lots of threads about how he treats his fans. Bad move.

Also. I would not think this made OP look like an idiot at all. In fact, something I always look for in people I hire is the drive to do things like fan videos and projects on their spare time. It shows love and a genuine interest for whatever it is they're doing.
 

GatorBait

Member
and a waste of money.

The OP has basically harassed Parappa's VA for OVER A YEAR for 100 dollars.

He doesn't strike me as someone with money to spend on fruitless endevors.

Whether or not it is a waste of money depends on the OP. Personally, I wouldn't mind spending the $50 filing fee (the filing cost for a small claim $100 or less in my county) just for the experience and story. However, that's all contingent on the OP being close enough to Dred to be able to appear in a venue in his jurisdiction, which is unlikely, but if the OP did want to pursue legal recourse, that is the easiest and least costly option to take.

DaBlackNerd said:
Long post.

Good thing for the OP that he has a relatively common/generic name and he didn't use his real picture on his Facebook. I would've thought an esteemed business man such as yourself would have noticed that, a fact which effectively renders a large portion of your post moot.
 

rjinaz

Member
Sigh.

Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

Right, we should totally not call people on their shit because the world is not perfect. Sorry but if somebody wrongs me I will call them out on it as should anybody, especially if I can help others avoid the same mistake. Stealing is always wrong and should always be accountable and not brushed away as a "life lesson". That kind of defeatist attitude is exactly why people continue to scam others.

I am not saying that OP isnt correct I am saying the way in which he has gone about it has only hurt him and you have to be smarter about these things. As an employer how in the hell could I hire you for any job at my company? (Clearly not my real company..I am not saying my company is great or desirable I am just taking that perceptive for the sake of this topic) So you come into my office for a job interview and this is what I see and this is gonna sound harsh and I am sorry for that but I do want to do you the favor of what I really think as someone who hires people.

1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

Facebook is public and you wouldn't expect somebody with notoriety to scam somebody in public on their own FB page. I personally would not have done it but I can see why it happened.

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

Thankfully this guy will never have to prove himself to you. I don't see how you can close a deal on somebody that is a scammer from the start but hey you're the big time business owner you probably do it everyday.

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets? Like I said and trust me I am far from rich or super successful but as a business owner I piss out a hundred bucks virtually everyday. You basically are trying to shame a guy for the equivalent of a ink cartage.

$100 is a lot of money to some people, it certainly isn't to you that is obvious. Again, this guy will never have to impress you. And employers won't care about this situation either. I would be absolutely astonished if a future employer actually did not hire this guy because of this situation. You know about it because you browse neoGAF. Granted FB is public but even the page this occurred on is now private so he has nothing to worry about. Though I do agree it is something people should consider more carefully, what they say and how they respond on social media.

For Christ sake, depending on what state you live in it would cost you up to half of that to file in small claims to get it back. Its like finding a spider in your room so you go get a flamethrower and burn down the house. I am not saying that you shouldnt pursue this..actually I am saying that...its really not worth it. As they say you are not a professional until someone owes you money. Treat this as a learning experience and move on. If that is not enough there are ways to go about resolve the situation that are much better than what you have chosen.

The guy just wants his money back and has done what he can by asking for it and making the situation public, he never said he was going to take him to court and yeah obviously it would be a waste of time.

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.

He doesn't come across as a babbling buffoon at all, though I'm not sure I could say the same for you. For the record, I would never want to work for you. Maybe you should take your own advice? But that's right you own a business, so you're not held to the same standards as a lowly college student looking for a job, if this guy even is.
 

Nicktals

Banned

This thread is bizarre. First Shuri taking a shit, and now 'how could i trust you to close a 10,000 dollar business deal?? You'll never be hired!' Amateur fan project man...

Also, he has contacts? Looks like he has one...from 10 years ago. He's broke. Little to no work. This will hurt him making future contacts, wouldn't you think? Or once you record VO once your career is untouchable?

So bizarre. Can't believe this hasnt been picked up yet...most interesting story of the year!
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Sigh.

I have lurked for years and even when I got an account I never post..hell I barely log in most of the time but I wanted to really comment on this situation to give a lot of you some perspective from a person who owns a business and hires people. I worked in Television/Film and Broadcast Production for years before starting my own business and trying to parlay that into gaming. I have written many contracts, had many verbal agreements, handshake agreements etc etc.I want to explain my candid thoughts from reading this and why this is devastating to only OP.

Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

One of my mentors said this to me when I was first starting out in TV...."Be careful when you decide to drag someones name through the mud because its impossible not to get a little dirty yourself."

I am not saying that OP isnt correct I am saying the way in which he has gone about it has only hurt him and you have to be smarter about these things. As an employer how in the hell could I hire you for any job at my company? (Clearly not my real company..I am not saying my company is great or desirable I am just taking that perceptive for the sake of this topic) So you come into my office for a job interview and this is what I see and this is gonna sound harsh and I am sorry for that but I do want to do you the favor of what I really think as someone who hires people.

1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets? Like I said and trust me I am far from rich or super successful but as a business owner I piss out a hundred bucks virtually everyday. You basically are trying to shame a guy for the equivalent of a ink cartage.

For Christ sake, depending on what state you live in it would cost you up to half of that to file in small claims to get it back. Its like finding a spider in your room so you go get a flamethrower and burn down the house. I am not saying that you shouldnt pursue this..actually I am saying that...its really not worth it. As they say you are not a professional until someone owes you money. Treat this as a learning experience and move on. If that is not enough there are ways to go about resolve the situation that are much better than what you have chosen.

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.

This has... nothing to do with anything.
 

Hattori

Banned
DBN is PaRappa in disguise trying to damage control
, at least I hope so. Because he seems very out of touch with the real world.
 

DaBlackNerd

Neo Member
That's... a strange choice for you first post here.

Meh, got to post sometime right? I have had a lot of interns in my life and I try hard to teach them to properly address situations like this. I guess I felt more connect then normal post.

Did you just compare a dude who needs to get thirty bucks moneygrammed from a couple of college kids to Charlie Sheen?

No not comparing, explain the situation. It doesnt matter if you are famous or not famous if you already have an established client base its very hard to break that up even with shamming. Whatever that saying is about the "enemy that you know is much better than the enemy you dont know." People will stick with someone even if they are an asshat just because its easier than going out and finding someone else.

This was in October 2012.



I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. It's not as if I went and started posting this everywhere the second things went wrong. It took nearly a year and a half of poor communication from him and comical amounts of verbal abuse over Facebook for me to decide this was worth showing on NeoGAF.

And I certainly wouldn't want to work for any employer who would judge all my future actions regarding money and securing business deals based on something I did at 18.

Its been a year right? So you are 19 now? Honestly I am not trying to berate you but trust me when I say that you didnt become a geniuses after a year. I am sure you have grown and gotten smarter and learned from this but the saying of "Back when I was 18" usually doesnt apply until you are quite a bit older than 19.


As for your post, you are old enough to know that what you said is kinda bull. All employers will judge what you do...its kinda in their best interests and right before they pay you money. Now whether or not they decide to still hire you is up to the individual but lets drop the kids stuff. But again, from what I understand it was only a year and a half ago...that is well within the time limit of judging someone actions and assessing whether or not to invest in them as a employee.

You are not going to have a successful career in anything if you set a criteria that you only want to work for "xxxx" employer right out of the gate. Unless you are the most amazing kid in the world and top of your game in whatever field you are going into you are not going to land your dream job out of high school (assuming that you are 19) and I just think with your actions then and your attitude now (from just this 5 seconds on the internet clearly I cant judge your actually character as I have never met you) it just seems like you are unintentional limiting your own success.

But I wish you the best my friend. I hope everything works out for you.
 

kaiju

Member
Sigh.

I have lurked for years and even when I got an account I never post..hell I barely log in most of the time but I wanted to really comment on this situation to give a lot of you some perspective from a person who owns a business and hires people. I worked in Television/Film and Broadcast Production for years before starting my own business and trying to parlay that into gaming. I have written many contracts, had many verbal agreements, handshake agreements etc etc.I want to explain my candid thoughts from reading this and why this is devastating to only OP.

Here is a fact. This will not affect the voice actor at all. Why? Because we are not 12 years old and we dont live in fictional Disneyland where all good people have good things happen to them and bad people get punished. He has already been working in the field for years, he already has a client list, a contact list and a group of people who have seen and liked his work enough to pay for it. The people who work with him have known for years that he is probably an asshole and they accepted and still work with him because skill trumps personality. Hell we all have known Charlie Sheen was an asshole in the decades ago and yet he still gets work doesnt it? There are millions of horrid people who will continue to work every day.

One of my mentors said this to me when I was first starting out in TV...."Be careful when you decide to drag someones name through the mud because its impossible not to get a little dirty yourself."

I am not saying that OP isnt correct I am saying the way in which he has gone about it has only hurt him and you have to be smarter about these things. As an employer how in the hell could I hire you for any job at my company? (Clearly not my real company..I am not saying my company is great or desirable I am just taking that perceptive for the sake of this topic) So you come into my office for a job interview and this is what I see and this is gonna sound harsh and I am sorry for that but I do want to do you the favor of what I really think as someone who hires people.

1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets? Like I said and trust me I am far from rich or super successful but as a business owner I piss out a hundred bucks virtually everyday. You basically are trying to shame a guy for the equivalent of a ink cartage.

For Christ sake, depending on what state you live in it would cost you up to half of that to file in small claims to get it back. Its like finding a spider in your room so you go get a flamethrower and burn down the house. I am not saying that you shouldnt pursue this..actually I am saying that...its really not worth it. As they say you are not a professional until someone owes you money. Treat this as a learning experience and move on. If that is not enough there are ways to go about resolve the situation that are much better than what you have chosen.

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.

Amazing that people are still choosing to defend Dred Foxx's actions, and acting like $100 bucks is no big thing. How dense can you be?

The guy asked for money to perform a quick audio clip for a fan-made homage to PaRappa, and then had the fucking audacity to publicly slam a fan when said fan asked for his money back several months later.

And you want to say the fan is damaging his own reputation? WTF!?!
 

Shojx

Member

This wasn't even an official business deal, this was a couple of fans asking an arguably niche VA to help them out with a fan project. 10 lines, it wouldn't have taken more than 20 minutes for someone who works professionally, if I was a VA being asked for something like this I'd have done it for free. Out of good faith, they paid this guy the $100 he asked for and gave him a deadline, and even after that they got nothing out of it.

I don't see anyone making a fool out of themselves other than the VA here.
OP didn't make any false accusations or throw insults at him like he did to them.
I just can't see an interview going like "Oh, hmm... I see here that you paid my boy Dred Foxx some bills and then asked for it back multiple times, that dude's real chill, yeah sorry this isn't gonna work"
Also, just because $100 is chump change to you, doesn't mean it is to everybody else too.
 

derwalde

Member
Its been a year right? So you are 19 now? Honestly I am not trying to berate you but trust me when I say that you didnt become a geniuses after a year. I am sure you have grown and gotten smarter and learned from this but the saying of "Back when I was 18" usually doesnt apply until you are quite a bit older than 19.


As for your post, you are old enough to know that what you said is kinda bull. All employers will judge what you do...its kinda in their best interests and right before they pay you money. Now whether or not they decide to still hire you is up to the individual but lets drop the kids stuff. But again, from what I understand it was only a year and a half ago...that is well within the time limit of judging someone actions and assessing whether or not to invest in them as a employee.

You are not going to have a successful career in anything if you set a criteria that you only want to work for "xxxx" employer right out of the gate. Unless you are the most amazing kid in the world and top of your game in whatever field you are going into you are not going to land your dream job out of high school (assuming that you are 19) and I just think with your actions then and your attitude now (from just this 5 seconds on the internet clearly I cant judge your actually character as I have never met you) it just seems like you are unintentional limiting your own success.

are you actually lecturing him?
 

DaBlackNerd

Neo Member
Amazing that people are still choosing to defend Dred Foxx's actions, and acting like $100 bucks is no big thing. How dense can you be?

The guy asked for money to perform a quick audio clip for a fan-made homage to PaRappa, and then had the fucking audacity to publicly slam a fan when said fan asked for his money back several months later.

And you want to say the fan is damaging his own reputation? WTF!?!

Hmm, seem to have set off why more than I indeed with that post.


I wasnt defending him I think you misunderstood, I was simply pointing out that creating situations like this puts a spotlight on both people not just one and that maybe he may not come off as well because of it. That is it.

Also, I dont have a public facebook (I think someone was confusing me with a fairly well known youtuber) For his sake please do not do that as I have never met the guy and would not like to have your idea of me attached to him unfairly. The name of Black Nerd is fairly common I would assume tons of different people have it.


Finally, I just saw my post as a difference of opinion and more perceptive then just calling Dredd an asshole for the 50th time. Clearly many of you do not think so, I wish everyone the best will cease speaking on the subject as to not start a flame war or junk up the thread.

Cheers mates.
 

DaBlackNerd

Neo Member
Amazing that people are still choosing to defend Dred Foxx's actions, and acting like $100 bucks is no big thing. How dense can you be?

The guy asked for money to perform a quick audio clip for a fan-made homage to PaRappa, and then had the fucking audacity to publicly slam a fan when said fan asked for his money back several months later.

And you want to say the fan is damaging his own reputation? WTF!?!

Just curious - are you this business owner?

No, no I am not.

I want to make sure people know that I am not that guy. Again, calling yourself a black nerd is like calling yourself Steve. Its a very generic name that thousands of people have.

Please do not unfairly judge him for my post.
 
I can't believe there are Dred Foxx apologists posting in this thread. How can anyone justify what that guy did? Fuck voice artist, the guy's a scam artist.
 

no angel

Member
Also, I dont have a public facebook (I think someone was confusing me with a fairly well known youtuber) For his sake please do not do that as I have never met the guy and would not like to have your idea of me attached to him unfairly. The name of Black Nerd is fairly common I would assume tons of different people have it.

Damn right. Wouldn't want to unintentionally limit your success.
 
1. A person so incompetent of business decisions that they tried to make one over facebook. (Seriously facebook?)

He was asking for a few lines from the dude for a not for profit fan video. Hardly a major business decision.

2. A person who is so incompetent at business relations and account management that they couldnt close a deal on $100. Its a 100 dollars? I give my interns 100 bucks for gas money. How in the world could I ever trust you to secure a deal for $1,000? $5,000? $10,000? Does most of the money you get vanish into the ether with nothing to show for it?

$100 is a lot to most 18/19 year old college kids. It also seems to be a lot of money for Foxx, as he's asking for fan donations to replace an ipad.. And this part makes you seem like a total jackass.

3. This is the most important as business is always changing and you need to be able to adapt and handle it in a professional manner. This town crier act has just made you into toxic waste. How could I ever trust you to work with any client, be in any meeting or give you any information when at the drop of a hat you will flip out so far of the rails that you go screaming through the streets?

If you actually read the OP and his blog, you'd know he didn't flip out at the drop of a hat. OP was very patient with this guy who kept jerking him around and only went public with this info after some (pathetic) abuse from the "voice actor"

In my honest opinion (which doesnt mean anything as I am just some random guy on the internet) you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon. You might win some internet high fives but these people are not going to be in the interview room backing you up. You are now going to have to explain to future employees why you made so many horrid decision in this situation and convince them to trust you when they know you cant seem to secure even the smallest of deals.

Bolded part is very true. And what are you talking about with this interview? I highly doubt that a blog/GAF post about getting ripped off by a delusional idiot is going to affect his future job prospects.

Seriously though, I am really not trying to insult OP, I just wanted to give a perceptive in which his action are really damaging to his own reputation.
you have done little to him and made yourself look like a complete and utter babbling buffoon

Yeah that's not insulting at all
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
No, no I am not.

I want to make sure people know that I am not that guy. Again, calling yourself a black nerd is like calling yourself Steve. Its a very generic name that thousands of people have.

Please do not unfairly judge him for my post.

I know a lot of people. Some of them are named Steve. None of them are named "Da Black Nerd."

...but then, Dred Foxx is black... and isn't he a nerd?

DaBlackNerd, are you Dred Foxx?
 

Camjo-Z

Member
Its been a year right? So you are 19 now? Honestly I am not trying to berate you but trust me when I say that you didnt become a geniuses after a year. I am sure you have grown and gotten smarter and learned from this but the saying of "Back when I was 18" usually doesnt apply until you are quite a bit older than 19.

I'm saying I doubt I'd be getting any sort of job requiring me to close $10,000 business deals until I'm out of college at least. But I understand that you're just trying to share your knowledge, I appreciate the thought.
 

sibarraz

Banned
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Welp, now I know why Sony charges $15 for a PSP port of a PS1 game instead of $6 like all the other PS1 games: They're secretly supporting this welfare rapper and his 11 year old daughter.

Well, they are still selling the PSP version, which even if is very similar, is still a bit different than the PS1 one, so I see no problem on the price
 

dubq

Member
Gotta love the "it's the OPs fault for getting scammed" responses. Also, "crying about it" online actually does work to some extent. How many times has a site like Kotaku picked up on stories like this and embarrassed the offender in question?
 

rjinaz

Member
I know a lot of people. Some of them are named Steve. None of them are named "Da Black Nerd."

...but then, Dred Foxx is black... and isn't he a nerd?

DaBlackNerd, are you Dred Foxx?

Ha funny, though I seriously doubt that. DaBlackNerd is far too articulate. I can barely understand some of the things that Dred Foxx typed out on his FB page.
 
Dred Foxx said:
Im in the studio working on a diss record which now includes you and other clowns.

Look out. He means business.

But seriously, this is really unfortunate. Hopefully you get your money back at some point OP.
 

spoonman

Banned
Dred Foxx AKA Parappa should just settle up. An apology & a refund could go a long way for him in this situation.
If he doesn't have the money (spent it) then he could start with an apology.

Also, if he is afraid of breaking legal protocol by performing the Parappa voice away from a Sony IP he could have done the lines in his regular voice and had the op speed them up and "PaRappa-ize" them as he has done with the Fishwich song.... just a thought.
 
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