bigboss370
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So many complaints about metacritic, wow. I wish everyone would stop putting so much stock in reviews.
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Titanfall Review Thread
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I don't think I've seen virtually anyone complaining about people giving it "bad scores" in general. I've only seen discussions around the user reviews and people giving it 0 score. Nobody here's complaining about a 7/10 or anything along those lines. The 0 scores aren't "opinions". They are deliberate attempts to bring the user score down.
As someone else mentioned, I would assume this has a lot to do with what the users are comparing it to. On console many people started out with either GoldenEye or Halo, and have later progressed to either CoD or BF4. For these players it's not hard to imagine that Titanfall is either the best fps, or the second best fps they've ever played multiplayer. Whereas on the PC, the reviewer has possibly been around for various Quake games, UT games, Half-Life DM, a proper Team Fortress 2, Team Fortress Classic, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Battlefield 2, old school Counter Strike, Tribes... the list goes on. For these players I could easily see Titanfall struggling to hit anywhere within their top 5.
I don't want to sound all "PC Master Race" or anything, because I've been mostly out of PC gaming since arena shooters died out, but I'd consider it accurate to say that many PC players would have higher standards when it comes to FPS games than console players. When Halo 2 and Gears of War hit the consoles they were a huge deal. On PC people couldn't give half of a fuck about them.
Half of 41 maps is pretty damn impressive imo. These days we're be lucky to have half of a far reduced count turn out good. With that said though, people should stop bringing up UT99 as an example. It murders every multiplayer FPS in regards to maps, and that was true even at the time. It's not exactly an average offering. It's like saying every adventure game should be ashamed of itself if it doesn't measure up to Ocarina of Time. It's a pointless metric to set.
While this is true, I would also argue that within the last gen it has become increasingly difficult to hold top scores with the game being focused on a strong narrative, of focusing on cinematic presentation. Looking at that list how many games there are both recent and are not large cinematic style productions?
One of the highest rated games on that list is Tekken 3 for example. The most recent entry in this series (Tekken Tag 2) sits at 82, whilst being just as good a game as Tekken 3 was imo. Similarly Virtua Fighter 4 (not even Evo) sits at 94, whilst VF5: Final Showdown is also sitting at 82. I have no idea what it would take for one of these games to score in the mid nineties today, but being the best 3D fighter ever probably wouldn't even come close to doing it.
BattleMonkey
Member
The game just feels lacking. Now it is insanely fun, this is one of the best online shooters I've played in a long time, it's highly addictive. And really think it would be worth full 10/10 and perfect scores if only it had more meat to it.
For a MP only full priced game, it does not offer more content than countless other big name shooters. You would have expected a ton more maps, game modes, social networking functionality, etc. Other games of similar price point just give you much more including ways of playing like coop functions, and full on single player campaigns. Without these things you would have imagined more resources going into the core game, but frankly this shipped with far less than what other games offered which is disappointing. The game just feels hollow.
I'm loving this game though, it is fun as fuck, but damn do I feel like there should be more to it.
For a MP only full priced game, it does not offer more content than countless other big name shooters. You would have expected a ton more maps, game modes, social networking functionality, etc. Other games of similar price point just give you much more including ways of playing like coop functions, and full on single player campaigns. Without these things you would have imagined more resources going into the core game, but frankly this shipped with far less than what other games offered which is disappointing. The game just feels hollow.
I'm loving this game though, it is fun as fuck, but damn do I feel like there should be more to it.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Why haven't sites that didn't post scores update their reviews to include the scores? There weren't any launch issues and the servers worked very well. What's the hold up?
Although I too assumed you would be able to matchmake whilst playing another game (I assumed the matchmaking had been detached from the game itself.. which would have been awesome), there is still a lot more flexibility than on the 360. Anything that you can do whilst a game is in the background, such IE, Skype, Netflix, TV, Twitch whatever, can be switched to whilst you wait for a game to be found. So far, this has only proven useful with Ryse (which often seems to take forever to find me someone to play with), but once those zombie community games like Outrun Online or Anarchy Reigns appear, it's probably going to help people continue to play them rather than giving up whenever it doesn't find someone within 10 seconds (which funnily enough becomes perpetual and kills the game even quicker).
SwiftDeath
Member
Three's is the highest rated game on metacritic so far this year and its a puzzle game on iOS. I seriously doubt it has a compelling story. 16 critic scores by the way if that matters (includes game informer, Edge Magazine, IGN italy etc.)
DryvBy
Member
I don't have the final product, but I agree with this. It's why I'm waiting for a price drop of half or more. The value isn't there for me. Not enough modes and there's nothing original. And from the start, I knew Brink campaign was what Titanfall had in it. I also don't think the community is going to be strong when the next COD comes out.
Respawn should definitely be happy with an 86 or even 85. It's an excellent score, especially for being their first release.
MS, on the other hand, was probably expecting a 90+ Metacritic score.
MS is fully to blame for the backlash that this game is receiving. They hyped it up as the next Ocarina of Time, the game of the generation, an expectation that was pretty much impossible to meet.
MS, on the other hand, was probably expecting a 90+ Metacritic score.
MS is fully to blame for the backlash that this game is receiving. They hyped it up as the next Ocarina of Time, the game of the generation, an expectation that was pretty much impossible to meet.
3rdamention
Member
Yesterday, XBOX Live was down for some Xbox One users in some regions for 6-9 hours. It was real, and some people flat out couldn't play the game.
However, it was for certain regions. Check out the Xbox Twitter, it was blowing up yesterday. The Xbox Twitter tweeted later that everything was fixed and should be up and running, and it was.
A 90+ score projection on metacritic is unreasonable for any game. Anything above 85 is considered stellar. What backlash exactly is MS to blame for? The backlash in this review thread? I don't think they give 2 shi*ts about that. Are they NOT supposed to hype something they are trying to SELL? What planet are you on?
A whole 24 hours after the release and there are still people attempting to sink the user score on Metacritic with BS "reviews" from people who have no interest in the game other than to trash it to mask their own insecurities.
Something tells me this will continue until Infamous is released.
Though it would be very interesting if Infamous gets a lower Metascore...
Something tells me this will continue until Infamous is released.
Though it would be very interesting if Infamous gets a lower Metascore...
I'd like to think that when discussing the trend of reviews favouring large budget productions with story-based design, I wouldn't have to explicitly state that this would not hold true for a device that's essentially unsuited to these types of games. To clarify though, I'm referring to games on home consoles, where the experiences stated have generally become the focus.
I'd be hesitant to score Titanfall lower as a result of Xbox Live as a whole screwing up. That would very much be punishing the wrong people.
Backlash?
Glass Shark
Banned
Yeah, the overwhelming backlash from Juniors on NeoGAF who were never going to play it anyway.
BruiserBear
Banned
Opus Angelorum
Member
This.
Imagine if MS would had let the XBOXONE with the DRM/Always online restrictions.
You're living under a rock if you don't think there's backlash against the game. I mean the Metacritic user review score should tell you everything.
MS has hyped up Titanfall far beyond any game in the X1 lineup. They were selling it as the next best thing almost a year before release.
I think you're confusing backlash with blind fanboyism nonsense.
BruiserBear
Banned
If you think those "reviews" are serious you need to get your head checked.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
nah, there's a false narrative you're building in your head that in no way reflects reality. also, your denigrating Microsoft for trying to sell a game they've invested money and time into is absurd and naive. how dare they....
haha
this also.
Luft Vanship
Banned
The expectations for this game were off the charts the media was making out to be the second coming of Christ to gaming, but a game should not be judge by hype but rather it's gameplay it's not fair for the developers, overall this game is really good and getting 8s and 9s and respawn should be proud of what they created.
The only backlash I'm really seeing are from people who were never going to get the game anyway. Every single other person I've encountered, both offline and online, has been solidly addicted to the game since it came out and has had nothing but positive things to say about it.
Even in lobby chats between matches, everyone is gushing over it and can't stop talking about how awesome the last round was and how they wish there was a "Ready" button so they wouldn't have to wait a minute for the next round to start.
That may be, but the game is still getting far more scrutiny than it deserves, and I think part of the reason why is because of Microsoft's attempt to sell it as the next best thing to sliced bread.
When did I ever say anything of the sort? I realize the majority of those reviews are troll reviews.
I don't understand why Titanfall fans get so defensive and personal regarding this game.
meanspartan
Member
I'm loving it on PC. But I admit, if I was still Ps3/Ps4 only and had no PC or Xbox, I'd be pretty bitter. Not bitter enough to go on metacritic and give it a zero, because I have better things to do, but bitter.
Metacritic needs better moderating on user scores. But maybe it's impossible without being accused of "silencing" criticism. People giving games 10s or 0s without expansive reviews saying why they did so should face scrutiny somehow though.
BruiserBear
Banned
lmao
No one has gotten defensive or personal with you. They're just giving a frank response to your "analysis" of these "reviews", and how they constitute a "backlash".
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Another false narrative. Pointing out the fallacies in your argument isn't getting defensive. Nice moving of the goalposts btw. You implied those reviews were serious by saying they mean something. Then you backed away from it.
Just in case you forgot what you wrote:
(Bolded in case it's hard to read)
"I don't understand why Sony fans get so defensive and personal regarding this game."
There, fixed it for you.
Amazon discussion about Titanfall reviews being removed.
It seems that Amazon verified purchasers have been seeing any of their reviews below a 4 removed for the Xbox One.
You just said "the user score should tell you everthing" lol
LowEndTorque
Member
86 is the same score as BF4 on PS4 (But I don't know if the BF4 reviews took into account that the game was a buggy disaster at launch).
It's a very good, solid score but it doesn't live up to the hype surrounding the game. The last time a game was hyped to the same level as Titanfall was TLoU and GTA V and both got a 95 and 97 respectively and swept GOTY awards.
Generally people on my friends list play quite a variety of stuff. Some FIFA, some Battlefield, some Killer Instinct, some Forza and basically no CoD: Ghosts (how did this happen? lol). Since yesterday, pretty much every person that has popped up online, has been playing Titanfall, there's still been the odd KI or FIFA, but even the people playing those tended to have been on Titanfall before or after. I'd say they haven't been too far off so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the game is currently selling to around half of the userbase.
We'll see how long it lasts though.
BruiserBear
Banned
Please take your silly games elsewhere. You're wasting everyone's time here.
lol damn. I guess they missed the asterisk disclaimer that states any review below a 4 can't be serious and thusly will be terminated.
Mendax
Member
edit: beaten 
someone in a gamespot discussion linked this:
Amazon customer discussion: Legitimate Reviews Being Removed
" James says:
I did not like Titanfall but I did buy it here on Amazon. I know many people disagree with me and thats fine. We can debate on things I did not like. But it should concern us all that people that have the "verified purchaser" label are being removed with other people that did not purchase it or is an obvious fanboy.
I always thought that even if a review of anything was bad the " verified purchaser" meant they at least bought it. It gave there review more legitimacy. If its fair game to remove peoples reviews like that its un-ethical.
But now I will need to not consider reviews at all on Amazon as its safe to assume reviews have been removed so they can sell more of something. "
http://www.amazon.com/Legitimate-Re...d_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00DB9JYFY
rofl lmao lol if true
someone in a gamespot discussion linked this:
Amazon customer discussion: Legitimate Reviews Being Removed
" James says:
I did not like Titanfall but I did buy it here on Amazon. I know many people disagree with me and thats fine. We can debate on things I did not like. But it should concern us all that people that have the "verified purchaser" label are being removed with other people that did not purchase it or is an obvious fanboy.
I always thought that even if a review of anything was bad the " verified purchaser" meant they at least bought it. It gave there review more legitimacy. If its fair game to remove peoples reviews like that its un-ethical.
But now I will need to not consider reviews at all on Amazon as its safe to assume reviews have been removed so they can sell more of something. "
http://www.amazon.com/Legitimate-Re...d_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00DB9JYFY
rofl lmao lol if true
hmm odd
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Unknown One
Member
Wow, what does Amazon have to say about this I wonder?
DryvBy
Member
I guess they don't want another 1-star SPORE situation again?
BruiserBear
Banned
I have a very hard time believing this is true. I don't think Microsoft or Amazon are concerned about this game getting a few bad user reviews from verified purchasers. The game's metacritic score speaks for itself.
Do you know who does care about user reviews though? Fanboys with nothing better to do with their time. We know they care. We see it all the time. So I'm far more inclined to believe a simple glitch caused some of those problems, or it's some fanboys trying to create a fake controversy.
I see a few three stars and one two star review still present there. They seem valid enough.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
calm down, it's just a video game
Now THIS here.. this does seem a bit shady.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
So, why did you say Metacritic user reviews matter and then backtrack?
plasmawave
Banned
Metacritic user score is garbage. Don't know why anyone would use that as some kinda of indicator of the game's quality.
that's an extreeeeeeeeeemely shady thing to do 0_o
NathanMcMahon
Banned
it's not about quality. it's about backlash or something for Microsoft trying to hype and sell a video game but it's just a game man. no need to get so crazy about it.
snark