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[LegendofLex]

Negatives?

I don't want a device sponsored by an advertising company in my home.

Same reason I've been very hesitant to jump on a smartphone.

 

[NullPointer]

Facebook is an advertising company, specifically they're in the business of selling targeted user data to their advertising partners. How that business model distorts the vision for Oculus VR gaming that had so many excited is the reason for the knee jerk negativity.

Succinct.

 

[Pie and Beans]

BUT THEY'RE BOTH BLUE PILLS?!?!?!??!

 

[B.O.O.M]

If you're meeting your friends in VR, at least you might be making virtual eye contact, rather than sitting with friends at a table, each individually eating lunch ignoring each other, face down in a mobile phone on Facebook to other friends.

have virtual glaring matches with your distant relatives during holidays lol


On a different note: people who keep quoting that diehard post..you do realize most of the pros he listed are just batshit insanely optimistic right?

Also about the constant mentions about how FB bought instagram yet didn't do much to change it. Sure but why should they? That's a product that flawlessly fits with their own product. Occulus as it is, doesn't.

Could the outcome be good and all the optimism be proven correct? Sure. But we have absolutely no logical reason to believe so

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

Damn, this came out of left field. April 1st is a week away!

 

[Odrion]

The more realistic scenario I see is that this is a result of a ever out-of-touch dot.com company flailing around madly with money, won't have a good plan with Oculus Rift, and will drag it down with them as they become less and less relevant.

 

[LonelyGreyWolf]

yeah, here's another thing to worry about, dev reactions.

if he's being serious then that's fucking huge.

This is so dumb. Has to be a joke.

 

[plainr_]

I don't know what to make out of this but I'm hoping this is good for the future of VR?

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

I'm not going to panic just yet but I am worried about how Facebook are going to make money from oculus.
It's also a shame to go from getting something relatively cool to getting something that feels embarrassing now.

Expect lots of ads everywhere.

 

[atr0cious]

Why would anyone be upset about Facebook acquiring the Rift? Not only do they have the money to make the best possible product, and the ability to even subsidize the price even more, but Facebook is so mainstream, all the haters claims of VR never catching off will be put to the side, as your mom will know what VR is. This does nothing but help "gamers" who still account for one of the smallest niche markets in all media. This is essentially the blue ocean strategy done perfectly.

 

[darkside31337]

listen to the facebook conference... they are talking about the possible social aspects of VR + Facebook.. RUH ROH

Yeah this is pretty much a no shit. They didn't spend 2 billion on Oculus just so they could waste their time fiddling around with traditional video games.

 

[iceatcs]

Oh man. Another autopilot for Sony.

 

[FullMetalx117]

People forget Oculus is a business. This is a great business move. I don't even think Oculus was big enough to mass produce these things.


People need to thing about this rationally, in a business sort of way not in the "OMG it's Facebook, they know everything about me and I'm Scared" sort of way

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I see this as extremely good news.

Positives of Facebook entering into VR race:
- Oculus now has infinite budget to craft perfect hardware, software and entire VR platform for PC and portables
- Countless more developers will become interested in VR, short byte-size games will find much larger audience on VR
- VR promotion on Facebook.com = MILLIONS of VR adopters on day 1
- More VR users of all kinds = more AAA games for us PC gamers
- Immediate infusion of entertainment/documentary/travel content
- Holy grail of VR - social networking inside minecraft-esque VR space. Just what Snow Crash depicted in its Metaverse.
- with stylized design, VR metaverse could be run even from iOS/Android phones
- Facebook can sell hardware with loss, providing incredibly HQ hardware for ~$99
- Presence of strong player in VR will force Sony to become very invested in VR, making much more compelling product and enabling 3rd parties much more streamlined patch toward porting games to PS4


Negatives?
So far, none, as long PC gamers get what they were promised [and FB is willing not to interfere with that].



This is good news for VR.

"- Facebook can sell hardware with loss, providing incredibly HQ hardware for ~$99"

Why the hell would they want to do that? They just spent $2bil buying the company. They're not going to THEN sell the product at a loss. Literally every positive you mention is overly optimistic speculation at best.

 

[Copenap]

Nor is there a single indication that they aren't.

What? Yes there is, the entire business model of Facebook.

 

[Angry Fork]

I see this as extremely good news.

Positives of Facebook entering into VR race:
- Oculus now has infinite budget to craft perfect hardware, software and entire VR platform for PC and portables
- Countless more developers will become interested in VR, short byte-size games will find much larger audience on VR
- VR promotion on Facebook.com = MILLIONS of VR adopters on day 1
- More VR users of all kinds = more AAA games for us PC gamers
- Immediate infusion of entertainment/documentary/travel content
- Holy grail of VR - social networking inside minecraft-esque VR space. Just what Snow Crash depicted in its Metaverse.
- with stylized design, VR metaverse could be run even from iOS/Android phones
- Facebook can sell hardware with loss, providing incredibly HQ hardware for ~$99
- Presence of strong player in VR will force Sony to become very invested in VR, making much more compelling product and enabling 3rd parties much more streamlined patch toward porting games to PS4


Negatives?
So far, none, as long PC gamers get what they were promised [and FB is willing not to interfere with that].



This is good news for VR.

Good post. Won't be read.

Half of the list is meaningless or bad things, the other half could have been done (and was on the road map towards it) without facebook except maybe selling it cheap, which may or may not happen.

The fact that he said there are no negatives is funny and automatically makes the post suspect.

 

[Crayolan]

OR's gaming prospects are not looking too bright anymore. Save us Sony

Spoiler

or Valve

!

 

[Guevara]

My takeaway:

LOL

Why would anything nice ever happen?

 

[Mister Chippy]

I was want someone to hold me, stroke my hair, and tell me everything is going to be okay.

I'm sorry...

 

[WhupTroy]

The good news is we can expect a VR face full of this...

 

[ironcreed]

Here you go:

According to a Facebook post from Zuckerberg, he views Oculus Rift as a communication platform. The company and its 75 employees will operate independently from Facebook and continue its path of developing a platform for virtual reality games. (This, by the way, marks the third time Facebook has veered from its acqui-hire strategy of shutting down the companies it acquires -- the other two are Instagram and WhatsApp.) But Facebook's vision for Oculus is much bigger than games:

After games, we're going to make Oculus a platform for many other experiences. Imagine enjoying a court side seat at a game, studying in a classroom of students and teachers all over the world or consulting with a doctor face-to-face -- just by putting on goggles in your home.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/03...virtual-reality-gaming-company-for-2-billion/

 

[RionaaM]

Wow, this is weird. This is very very weird, and I would have never imagined it.

 

[Beant]

The meltdowns are hilarious - a comment I found

"Fuck you palmer! I feel like cancelling my dk2 and take a shit in my dk1"

 

[Septimus Prime]

There's a new horror movie called Oculus coming out soon. I think I now understand its premise.

 

[BennyBlanco]

if you really think this somehow will positively affect sony

 

[goomba]

I would have preferred Valve to buy them though wasn't there talk of Valve having their own VR kit in development?

 

[Goodacre0081]

I thought Facebook was on the way down, i'm sure i read that people were leaving Facebook (and other social media stuff) in droves. I thought the 'bubble' had burst.

i think it was, that's probably why your seeing a huge push to acquire other assets right now.

 

[falconzss]

this looks more like a wishlist.

Pretty much.

 

[Anion]

Apparently facebook's stock price is falling...
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/25/fa...trading-following-acquisition-of-oculus-rift/

 

[syko de4d]

Shit - no minecraft for oculus

https://twitter.com/notch/status/448586381565390848


Can Morpheus have it? Minecraft was so good on the original devkit, VR is perfect for it

I heard the Oculus mod for Minecraft is pretty good. I dont think you will have problems to play minecraft with Oculus Rift.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I wish I was naive enough to reach this level of ridiculous optimism

optimism is a rare thing around here. i think we should fertilize the concept and let it grow.

 

[DieH@rd]

Let me stop you right there. More like holy hell.

Entire VR movement started with computer generated worlds in which PEOPLE INTERACTED ONE WITH ANOTHER.

And nobody will take currently announced awesome VR experiences away from gamers.

 

[Ito]

In b4

 

[d0g_bear]

We wont' let you down

http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/21cy9n/the_future_of_vr/

 

[SwiftDeath]

When Google purchases Facebook they'll own everything.

Everything.

But then to appease the US courts against claims of monopoly, Google will have to create an Anti-Google. A company whose sole existence is to mirror perfectly the reverse of the core values of Google.

Plot-twist?

Spoiler

Anti-Google is actually the good guys. Dun dun dun!!!

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

QuakeBook. Shoot your friends in deathmatch arenas filled with targeted advertising.

 

[meanspartan]

So much this. People who kickstarted this didn't do it for it to end up in FB hands. Fuck them.

 

[ultratruman]

Did he delete this tweet? I can't find it anymore.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Yes I'm sure FB will gladly let their 2 Billion dollar Oculus onto non FB games.

Facebook will be the platform you get to use your Oculus games on, not Steam.

And no, they won't sell it for $100 just because they are rich.

The delusion is strong with this one.

And you know this how?

Jesus christ people talk about over fucking reacting.

 

[ghst]

I was want someone to hold me, stroke my hair, and tell me everything is going to be okay.

just like you do for sick pets just before sticking them with a syringe full of mortality.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Gorillaz]

I would actually laugh if this did turn out to be an April Fools joke and MS bought them instead

you don't joke about 2 billion doe

 

[Tabby]

But it isn't April Fools yet.

 

[jem0208]

Do you actually think Facebook will sell Oculus Rift as a generic peripheral for PC games? This thing will be locked up tight to Facebook games and product areas where they can advertise to you. And just because Facebook promotes it doesn't mean it will be successful. See: the Facebook Phone.

And Facebook selling hardware at a loss?? They have money, but not MS/Apple money. About $11B in cash right now. Well, less after this purchase.

There is no way Facebook is going to lock the Rift to Facebook games. They're not idiots, they know for a fact that that wouldn't sell. Mark and Palmer both said that not much will change at Oculus and that the vision for games will stay the same.

 

[Dennis]

The good news is we can expect a VR face full of this...

Who is this?

 

[-SD-]

The pessimistic people:



The optimistic people:

 

[harSon]

This is probably good for Microsoft. Aren't they pretty buddy buddy with Facebook?

 

[Crazy Harry]

I'll never trust Facebook to do the right thing with this acquisition.
I was waiting for the OR, actually considered to back the Kickstarter project.
I am so glad that I didn't have the money back then. I would have been so terribly pissed off, it would actually feel like treason.

 

[DR2K]

Well, good that Sony has thier own vr tech.