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XBox One Architecture Explained - Runs OS Virtually Indistinguishable from Windows 8
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
Interesting but useless unless we see benefits from this
PC ports of Major Xbox Titles
Community Made App's (XBMC etc)
Better App's
To the end user this means very little without results
PC ports of Major Xbox Titles
Community Made App's (XBMC etc)
Better App's
To the end user this means very little without results
StalkerUKCG
Banned
What is the W8 App scene like? I don't have any W8 devices
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
You can apply to make apps through ID@XBOX so the apps will be coming.
What app scene? There is none.
Terrible by phone/tablet ecosystem standards... Godlike by console standards.
LordOfChaos
Member
I'm curious about the performance implications of this three OS thing. And I wonder if they couldn't have achieved their multitasking vision with a monolithic OS. Also kind of weird that they have Windows 8 + Stripped down Windows 8, seems like some redundancy, though I get it's for performance in games.
So far it's not like the PS4 frees up a whole lot more memory due to not having all this though, but down the road we'll see.
So far it's not like the PS4 frees up a whole lot more memory due to not having all this though, but down the road we'll see.
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
wccftech
pretty sure they're a totally BS site
pretty sure they're a totally BS site
And people act like the XOne is dead.
What's to stop Microsoft from making an exclusive version of Office with Onedrive support baked in? They could add a free skype subscription, free office, and extra one drive storage for the life of the console. Microsoft is the sleeping giant posed to take consoles to the next level. Their new CEO loves pushing services so this is a realistic possibility.
I don't like all the things associated with Xone but I'll switch for office and an app store.
What's to stop Microsoft from making an exclusive version of Office with Onedrive support baked in? They could add a free skype subscription, free office, and extra one drive storage for the life of the console. Microsoft is the sleeping giant posed to take consoles to the next level. Their new CEO loves pushing services so this is a realistic possibility.
I don't like all the things associated with Xone but I'll switch for office and an app store.
LordOfChaos
Member
I don't know about the site, but this is all exactly what the Microsoft tech talk on the XBO said. That was weeks (months?) back.
Is the market for making word and excel documents on the XBO big? I dunno. Seems like anyone with an XBO probably has a personal computer much better suited to that.
civilstrife
Member
Honestly curious. Why would you/anyone care about whether or not their xbox runs Office?
This would be absolutely horrible.
Which is why I'm far less demanding, and only require a Remote Desktop Client and whatever software Valve plans to use to stream to Steam Machines.
Why would it be horrible? You could just not use it?
Who would want this?
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Virtually pointless for home use but if you had a Xbox One build for offices they could do neat things with One Drive, Skype and Office for video presentations and sharing. At a relatively cheap price point it would be kind of neat for conferencing.
What would the point be? To edit Word documents on your TV? What is the upside?
Whether they are or not, what they're saying is true.
Someone put Office on the Xbone chalkboard.
Ken Masters
Banned
One day MS will get people will buy gaming console to game
TheGreyHulk
Member
So, can we get some Forza on pc please! Port it over ms.
russian box
Member
They could do great things be brining out an xbox one drive for PC, so you buy the drive and play the games on your PC!
I want my Xbox to do as much as it possibly can, as long as none of these things step on the toes of my gaming when its time to play something. If my tablet can do it, I want my console to be able to as well basically.
Well.... you're talking to someone who has their only PC connected to a TV, and no monitor. So....
It's free on surface
Haha this was my immediate response. The chalkboard definitely needs Office on it now.
Playing KI on the left side, snapping Office on the right to do your marketing analysis for Monday.
Come back on Monday, and your boss fires you because the report contain so many ultraaaaaaaaa combo for every big sales idea.
But tbh, pretty neat feature for people with no laptop/pc nearby.
Using Kinect to write your report would be awesome until you smash your TV in because it doesn't understand you. But still a neat feature though.
I kind of wonder if allowing it to be used as a PC could be the ace in the hole it needs to counter the PS4? Honestly I find the idea of a decent quality TV PC that can play major games to be appealing enough to make up for the fact it's the weaker and more expensive system, especially if they left behind some of those gold paywalls and have wireless keyboard/mouse support. Nevermind that we are at a point where TV resolutions are good enough to actually WANT to use your TV as a computer monitor, when it sure as hell wasn't the case in the late 90s.
If nothing else it'd become the most versatile platform for streaming stuff; if an app doesn't exist then you could just use the website or whatever.
EDIT: Though that would be a security issue, and would posthumously justify the DRM: yes, it IS a PC in nearly every way that matters, and at least every way that matters for security, that also means it needs a heavy handed approach!
If nothing else it'd become the most versatile platform for streaming stuff; if an app doesn't exist then you could just use the website or whatever.
EDIT: Though that would be a security issue, and would posthumously justify the DRM: yes, it IS a PC in nearly every way that matters, and at least every way that matters for security, that also means it needs a heavy handed approach!
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I guess the UP SIDE to this is that you can have a linearly scaling console system that's free of hardware restrictions. i.e. A 2015 release of Xbox One that will run existing games at better frame rates and resolutions and a 2013 version that can run newer games on lower setting.
Essentially, an entire PC for the price of a GPU.
Essentially, an entire PC for the price of a GPU.
As odd as it sounds, office on xbox could actually make it a fairly cool business tool. Like it already has skype for conferences with that Kinect. The point would be to make it into a more versatile media center
Of course very few people would take advantage of it, but those who do would might now get an xbox in a place where it previously would not have been.
Of course very few people would take advantage of it, but those who do would might now get an xbox in a place where it previously would not have been.
cebri.one
Member
Forward compatibility. Both for PS and XB.
Usability
Also, you seem to be giving away a lot of stuff. What's to stop Microsoft from giving away a Skype subscription and Office on a console for games? I guess they could do it, but why?
Surface RT only and that thing is dead, dead, dead. Anyway, Office isnt a thing that anyone is gonna give a shit about for a home console.
Anyway, if the Xbone runs a stripped own Win 8 it doesnt really matter for games (well, for some devs, sure) if those PC ports dont come.
Looking forward to seeing Halo 5 on PC? yeah...
Are you being serious with this? Honest question.
Steelyuhas
Member
All of MS's operating systems are sharing the same core. They talked about Universal Apps at Build a couple of weeks ago, they are already available for Windows and Windows Phone and they announced that X1 would be a part of that as well in the future.
Pretty useful that app maker X can make their application for Windows/Phone/Xbox with the same back-end code. You just have a different front end for each platform for UI and input differences.
What remains to be seen if what MS's plans for the store on Xbox are. Do they still run a closed app store or do they open it up like Windows/win phone.
Pretty useful that app maker X can make their application for Windows/Phone/Xbox with the same back-end code. You just have a different front end for each platform for UI and input differences.
What remains to be seen if what MS's plans for the store on Xbox are. Do they still run a closed app store or do they open it up like Windows/win phone.
justsomeguy
Member
Because Windows has a significant overhead on cpu and disk usage. You don't want any of that nonsense on your gaming device - so the "game os" is based on win8 but completely stripped of all that irrelevant stuff.
However for apps which don't need the absolute best performance, its ok to run under something that is basically windows 8.
Implication is that your universal apps will run on the win8 partition not the game partition - which gives you less performance than running on the game os. I wonder which the id@xbox devs have access to?
thehillissilent
Member
Pretty Much.
justsomeguy
Member
You don't need office on xbox, that's just bonkers. If you must, use office web apps with IE (assuming they're compatible )
not_so_special
Banned
It's pretty good, certainly not as bad as some people make it out to be. However not as diverse as the Play store or the IOS marketplace but it still has an app for pretty much everything, however maybe not quite as many as Android or IOS.
It has some pretty good emulators which would be very cool to see on the X1 though.
Oh really? Awesome!
family_guy
Member
I want my Xbox to do as much as it possibly can, as long as none of these things step on the toes of my gaming when its time to play something. If my tablet can do it, I want my console to be able to as well basically.
Well.... you're talking to someone who has their only PC connected to a TV, and no monitor. So....
Then the functionality would be useless to you anyway. How would it benefit you to switch?
At a minimum it does sound like there's some justification for their release parity clause: if you can get it running on Windows (well, Windows 8 anyway) then it's basically instantly ready for Xbox One, and at least for indie games that don't really need fine tuning there's not much excuse in their eyes for why XB1 has to wait if it's one PC ASAP.
Though it does seem like it'd have been in good taste to only add the release date parity clause a year or two after launch, there's a lot of chaos around a launch that sorts itself out with set hardware on the market.
Though it does seem like it'd have been in good taste to only add the release date parity clause a year or two after launch, there's a lot of chaos around a launch that sorts itself out with set hardware on the market.
It's good