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Microsoft’s Xbox man - Yusuf Mehdi is at the Surface event today ?

He'll be there to explain that the low interest in the Surface is due to everybody being happy with their Zune and not wanting to upgrade.

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I love my Surface, but it's not for everyone. Best for businessy types.

I have to run Excel and PowerPoint on it, but also use it to play Civ as well as all the rest of the normal tablet stuff.

It already replaced a laptop, and the type cover provides as good a trackpad as any laptop I've owned has.

The price is high, but so is what you get. And it's hardly a "brick"... imo it's the best full OS tablet on the market. But whatevers.
 

kodecraft

Member
He'll be there to explain that the low interest in the Surface is due to everybody being happy with their Zune and not wanting to upgrade.

He had a point though. I know alot of 360 owners that are 'cool' with the 360 for now.

Zune HD is amazing, still going strong for me.

Hopefully nothing Smartglass, look how you can control IE on your Xbox with a Surface Mini. Why..
 

Freeman

Banned
"Very cool right?" "You need this." "Soo, important." "Very cool."

They should have more confidence, its like they are trying to convince themselves. "Please, be excited!"
 
Yikes...so free Surface Pro 3 for everyone there?

I hope its merely a loaner for review purposes. But seeing as how the first lady got one ahead of time, im gonna go ahead and say....no.


I can't wait to read the reviews though. Price is FUCKED but I want to know its design capabilities.
 

Artex

Banned
Another day; another event that exemplifies how Microsoft is either late to the party or out of touch with consumers.
 

Sydle

Member
I want a Surface Pro, but I get sticker shock every time I look into it again.

You think that having Google and Amazon working on the razor hardware margins model, making money on goods and services, would prompt Microsoft to change their strategy.

They have nobody to blame but themselves for their market performance.
 

Artex

Banned
LOL what? How about providing some more detail as to how they are always late to the party or out of touch?

Late to the party: Surface as an answer to iPad. Zune as an answer to iPod. Windows phones competing with Android/iOS and their respective app stores.

Out of touch: 5/20/13
 
How do they expect to compete with other tablets at that price range?

It's not competing with regular tablets. That's the Surface 2 (not Surface Pro).

Surface Pro range is an AMAZING bit of kit, a lot of folks have them at work and they are incredible devices.
 
I was interested in a Surface Pro 3 but it's a little too expensive. The 8GB Ram and 256GB HDD was the model i was interested, it's 300$ too much...
 

Freeman

Banned
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Holy shit.

They have a decent device, but the price is just ridiculous.

During the presentation he asked why people had Tables and Notebooks, probably because you can get both for the same price you spend on a Surface with all the accessories without compromising on anything. Their value proposition should be laughed at.
 
How do they expect to compete with other tablets at that price range?
Sure it certainly is pricy but in reality it may be able to be the go to device to replace laptop, desktop while having a tablet form factor. Overall it seems like a very cool piece of tech. I will get one of these when the surface pro 5 is announced probably.
 

tbm24

Member
Another day; another event that exemplifies how Microsoft is either late to the party or out of touch with consumers.

You kidding? The Surface Pro is exactly what I've been wanting for a very long time in mobile computing. Microsoft is pushing portable computing forward with the surface, rather than wasting time trying to compete in the tablet space.
 

strata8

Member
During the presentation he asked why people had Tables and Notebooks, probably because you can get both for the same price you spend on a Surface with all the accessories.

I'd love to see this notebook that has an i5, 128GB SSD, 1440p screen and digitizer, that you can buy for under $1130 with enough left over to buy a decent tablet.
 

Guevara

Member
A MacBook Air seems like an obviously better purchase unless for some reason you are dead set on a tablet form factor. The $899 Macbook Air has very similar stats to the $999 Surface:

1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor
Turbo Boost up to 2.7GHz
Intel HD Graphics 5000
4GB memory
128GB PCIe-based flash storage

Bonus: comes with free keyboard!
 
Those are higher than Apple prices.

Probably cause it does more than Apple devices.
When comparing to its direct competitor the Mac Air, For a Air with an i7 and 512 its 1849 CAN. The fact that it is also more lightweight, portable and has a better resolution (rmb the "retina display") makes it just as pricy as a fully specked Air.
 
Show me I can remote play an Xbox One with a Surface RT tablet (with wired 360 controller) and I'll buy an Xbox One the Friday after the Kinectless Xbox One sku is available. I'm solidly in the PS4 camp...but that would make me falter.


I dare you Microsoft.

Got an easy one. If Microsoft shows ANY first person shooter playing on Surface RT and I'll buy an Xbox One this weekend.

Oh crap I would LOVE that... "Xbox anywhere"
 
Those are laptop prices in a tablet form. Man, that is a hard product to market. People will see a tablet and expect similar pricing but only to be shocked by the sticker price. If you convince a person this is a great alternative to a laptop but the. nickel and dime the customer on necessary accessories that are included in most laptops. Seems like another uphill product to market for Microsoft.
 
Probably cause it does more than Apple devices.
When comparing to its direct competitor the Mac Air, For a Air with an i7 and 512 its 1849 CAN. The fact that it is also more lightweight, portable and has a better resolution (rmb the "retina display") makes it just as pricy as a fully specked Air.

Plus the Wacom digitiser/stylus thing, which makes it a joy to use in meetings. Stylus + OneNote + Sync it via OneDrive = pure joy. You can even search handwritten notes (it OCRs them in the background but leaves your own handwriting on screen). Use it a lot on our team to take notes to a shared notebook when we meet with customers.

edit: Clearly I am a massive geek who spends a lot of time in meetings. Many people may not find that "pure joy" ;-)
 

RibMan

Member
How do they expect to compete with other tablets at that price range?

They don't.

The Surface was never competition for iPads and Nexus tablets. Microsoft knows this, which is why they're charging (abnormally) high prices for the Surface Pro 3. I would imagine they looked at the sales of the prior Surface tablets and quickly determined they would choose a profits>marketshare approach, thus the high pricing structure. It's a similar model that's employed by high-end fashion companies.

Looking at the numbers, the Surface Pro 3 is sandwiched between really popular tablets (iPads: $300-500) and really popular laptops (MacBooks: $900-1500). Their pricing strategy is going to kill whatever remaining chances the Surface had of being a mass market device.
 
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