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[Flying Toaster]

These sales don't matter if this game is not enticing people to buy a Wii U, after all this game was billed as the "Wii U savior". So far it looks like no one is buying Wii u for this game.

Junior gonna Junior.

 

[reelbigtink]

Providing relevant, hand-picked content backlinks is a bad thing now?.

Eh, I guess I just don't see the point in making the claim that it'll "likely never happen" beyond enraging fans for clicks. That sort of manufactured negative press won't help the platform either so why even toss it in?

 

[schuelma]

Especially since that audience has been repeatingly assuring everyone that graphics don't really matter.

t.

Ahh now I see the angle you are taking.

Carry on.

 

[Kyzer]

Yup, interesting to see this was the third 'news' article:

Yep. Even better though I got an ad linking to mariokart8.Nintendo.com and the blurb they choose is "Overflowing with Nintendo Magic." - Polygon

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

Btw, Conan predicted this.

http://youtu.be/HO5imsViKp0?t=6m2s

 

[Kriken]

Woohoo nicely done nintendo!

This is incredible

 

[LegendofLex]

Eh, I guess I just don't see the point in making the claim that it'll "likely never happen" beyond enraging fans for clicks. That sort of manufactured negative press won't help the platform either so why even toss it in?

The fact that (as an example) NeoGAF has a joke chalkboard about what will save Wii U is enough to demonstrate that there is an interest in the prospects of any of the things on that board. They're just writing about the topics that interest people. Doesn't matter if they think the prospects are good or not - they recognize that people care, so they're commenting.

 

[RiggyRob]

Junior gonna Junior.

Don't do that.

Yep. Even better though I got an ad linking to mariokart8.Nintendo.com and the blurb they choose is "Overflowing with Nintendo Magic." - Polygon

It's like they can't decide what angle they're going for with Mario Kart 8.

 

[khaaan]

Wow, that's almost as much as Wind Waker HD has sold so far (1.2 million).

 

[LegendofLex]

It's like they can't decide what angle they're going for with Mario Kart 8.

I've seen this attitude repeatedly when I say Wind Waker was a bad idea (even though it's in my avatar).

Is it really impossible (or contradictory, or worthy of criticism, even) for someone to both like a thing and be honest about its problems?

 

[reelbigtink]

The fact that (as an example) NeoGAF has a joke chalkboard about what will save Wii U is enough to demonstrate that there is an interest in the prospects of any of the things on that board. They're just writing about the topics that interest people. Doesn't matter if they think the prospects are good or not - they recognize that people care, so they're commenting.

Fair enough. If people are interested I get it.

 

[Raist]

Ahh now I see the angle you are taking.

Carry on.

What angle? I'm not the one who brought "new graphics" into this. It's never been Nintendo's "angle" either. So I don't see how them releasing a game that is now described as showing "a significant improvement in graphics" would have been a game changer at all. Again, this is in the context of Nintendo titles not existing in a vacuum, and the fact that as far as I can tell it's never been a major point for "Hardcore Nintendo loyalists" (as you called them).

I really fail to see how there's any value to the idea considering context, but maybe that's just me.

edit: Although I do agree, a new MK would have made Nintendo's followers a lot more excited than NSMB. That's likely irrespective of graphics, though. IMO MK should have been released instead of Pikmin.

 

[Riki]

Btw, Connan predicted this.

http://youtu.be/HO5imsViKp0?t=6m2s

God, I hope he does this again this year. The past two E3s with him have been amazing.

 

[TypuyBaran]

I don't have a WiiU but genuinely happy for Nintendo...it's been a really tough road for them. Keep it up...

Moral of the story, bring the games...even if on a toaster, people will get pumped.

 

[RM8]

This game could look like Diddy Kong Racing and it'd still be awesome. I really don't think graphics are selling this game. I think Mario Kart Wii proved that (since it was hideous IMO).

 

[RiggyRob]

I've seen this attitude repeatedly when I say Wind Waker was a bad idea (even though it's in my avatar).

Is it really impossible (or contradictory, or worthy of criticism, even) for someone to both like a thing and be honest about its problems?

Of course not, and it's very likely the two articles were written by different people, it just seems weird for the same site to have conflicting views like that. If the criticism was in a single article or the 'Overflowing with Nintendo magic' quote was in the original piece by Dave Tach it would be warranted, but it's not.

 

[Pociask]

Legendary gif thread. Good on Nintendo and on proving Polygon wrong. Still, they don't want the equivalent of Titanfall for the Xbone - they are trying to push hardware to new users, too. If one of their biggest titles plus a free game doesn't work, what will? All that to say, a bit too early to party yet.

 

[ec0ec0]

Woohoo nicely done nintendo!

"maybe some better pie graphs too"

i watched the buu saga like a month ago, so this was very emotional :,O (i am weak)

 

[Flying Toaster]

Legendary gif thread. Good on Nintendo and on proving Polygon wrong. Still, they don't want the equivalent of Titanfall for the Xbone - they are trying to push hardware to new users, too. If one of their biggest titles plus a free game doesn't work, what will? All that to say, a bit too early to party yet.

That is the sad part of this entire situation. If a 2 for 1 game deal can't do it nothing will.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Legendary gif thread. Good on Nintendo and on proving Polygon wrong. Still, they don't want the equivalent of Titanfall for the Xbone - they are trying to push hardware to new users, too. If one of their biggest titles plus a free game doesn't work, what will? All that to say, a bit too early to party yet.

"The Party" started on Friday when this game released.

We will see if it's worthy of an "After party" in a couple months


Dragonball Z gif is awesome!

 

[Kuni]

Good games sell? Who could've known

Gratz to Ninty, they really needed a Wii U success. However like the Gamecube and N64 I fear it may not turn around that ship

Not that it matters for me. I'll be getting that Zelda U bundle day one.

 

[schuelma]

What angle? I'm not the one who brought "new graphics" into this. It's never been Nintendo's "angle" either. So I don't see how them releasing a game that is now described as showing "a significant improvement in graphics" would have been a game changer at all. Again, this is in the context of Nintendo titles not existing in a vacuum, and the fact that as far as I can tell it's never been a major point for "Hardcore Nintendo loyalists" (as you called them).

I really fail to see how there's any value to the idea considering context, but maybe that's just me.

I cannot believe you are seriously still arguing against what was in reality a very modest proposition (and btw, again, I never said anything close to "game changer"). A 2D Mario game essentially looking like the Wii version upscaled would not do as good a job differentiating a new system as a game as technically impressive as MK8. How is that even debatable? I never claimed MK8 would have saved the system or even lead to significantly better sales- I simply claimed it would quite possibly have led to a better initial perception.

I would add that this idea you are repeating that Nintendo and Nintendo fans never cared about graphics seems built on one generation and little more than a tired attempt to call out Nintendo fans.

 

[zeopower6]

This game could look like Diddy Kong Racing and it'd still be awesome. I really don't think graphics are selling this game. I think Mario Kart Wii proved that (since it was hideous IMO).

Weird... I was trying to type a post and it auto posted.

Anyway, I think they have been showing a lot of (kind of meh) advertisements for both this and Tomodachi Life on certain channels mostly targeted at kids-tweens, so like Cartoon Network has a Nintendo commercial nearly every break, lol.

 

[Meier]

These sales don't matter if this game is not enticing people to buy a Wii U, after all this game was billed as the "Wii U savior". So far it looks like no one is buying Wii u for this game.

A.) You are literally pulling that out of your ass, B.) The system had huge percentage growth in the UK (666%, other territories have not yet announced) and C.) Both personal and general internet anecdotal evidence doesn't align with the comment you pulled out of your ass.

 

[Axass]

If you double the Wii U install base, you still need significantly more than half of Wii U owners to buy Mario Kart for it to break out of the worst three.

You think that'd be so weird? After all the majority, if not everybody, buys Nintendo systems to play Nintendo games, and Mario Kart is one huge Nintendo franchise loved by all, I wouldn't say such attach rate is impossible.

 

[Holykael1]

Very impressive. Props to Nintendo.

 

[Cuburt]

The Polygon article is now one of the most delicious pieces of irony I've seen in a while.

This thread delivered.

 

[Ansatz]

All this tells me is that if you make a legit great game it will sell. Well done, Nintendo. It was deserved.

Mario Kart 8 is a masterpiece of game design and polish. Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze and 3D World are "legit great games" that deserve more attention. If every game has to be on the same level as MK8 to accomplish anything, Nintendo is fucked.

 

[Kyzer]

What angle? I'm not the one who brought "new graphics" into this. It's never been Nintendo's "angle" either. So I don't see how them releasing a game that is now described as showing "a significant improvement in graphics" would have been a game changer at all. Again, this is in the context of Nintendo titles not existing in a vacuum, and the fact that as far as I can tell it's never been a major point for "Hardcore Nintendo loyalists" (as you called them).

I really fail to see how there's any value to the idea considering context, but maybe that's just me.

edit: Although I do agree, a new MK would have made Nintendo's followers a lot more excited than NSMB. That's likely irrespective of graphics, though. IMO MK should have been released instead of Pikmin.

Either way its conjecture so what's the point in being so adamant

 

[nintendork666]

This may just be the hardest I've ever laughed on GAF. Oh my god

 

[Spieler Eins]

This game could look like Diddy Kong Racing and it'd still be awesome. I really don't think graphics are selling this game. I think Mario Kart Wii proved that (since it was hideous IMO).

Because the Wii already had a good and varied library before Mario Kart and the motion controls to differentiate itself. MK8 on the other hand is the first WiiU game that looks like Nintendo actually gives a damn. MK8 would have also rightfully bombed, if it was another low effort cash-in like the WiiU platformers and minigame collections most non-dedicated gamers most likely can't even differ from the near identical (still recent) 3DS/Wii predecessors. Everyone can see the generational leap in Mk8 one expected from Nintendo in HD from the very first second though, despite MK7 already looking great.

If EAD Tokyo, Retro and Intelligent Systems had actually gotten proper projects to work with instead of phoning in inferior panic mode map packs, plus scratching all the minigame collections for at least one or two ambitious games early on, Nintendo might have actually been able to go way beyond GCN numbers.
But now it's too late. And Smash seems to continue the trend of not even reaching graphical standards alongside having tired content (especially once the 3DS version's out).

 

[Kade]

Why is the Zynga CEO in this gif?

 

[Usobuko]

Japan numbers must be big.

 

[kamo]

Good for Nintendo, they needed this.

 

[Riki]

Japan numbers must be big.

Reports are 200K for the first day with a shipment of 400K.
We'll see how that pans out pretty soon.

 

[QuantumZebra]

dead

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Because the Wii already had a good and varied library before Mario Kart and the motion controls to differentiate itself. MK8 on the other hand is the first WiiU game that looks like Nintendo actually gives a damn. MK8 would have also rightfully bombed, if it was another low effort cash-in like the WiiU platformers and minigame collections most non-dedicated gamers most likely can't even differ from the near identical (still recent) 3DS/Wii predecessors. Everyone can see the generational leap in Mk8 one expected from Nintendo in HD from the very first second though, despite MK7 already looking great.

If EAD Tokyo, Retro and Intelligent Systems had actually gotten proper projects to work with instead of phoning in inferior panic mode map packs, plus scratching all the minigame collections for at least one or two ambitious games early on, Nintendo might have actually been able to go way beyond GCN numbers.
But now it's too late. And Smash seems to continue the trend of not even reaching graphical standards alongside having tired content (especially once the 3DS version's out).

 

[ab.aeterno]

I've seen this attitude repeatedly when I say Wind Waker was a bad idea (even though it's in my avatar).

Is it really impossible (or contradictory, or worthy of criticism, even) for someone to both like a thing and be honest about its problems?

You'd certainly think so given the intense negative reaction to criticism leveled at popular titles. Which is bizarre to me.

Eh, I guess I just don't see the point in making the claim that it'll "likely never happen" beyond enraging fans for clicks. That sort of manufactured negative press won't help the platform either so why even toss it in?

Why do you expect them to only publish content that helps the platform? They're posting their analysis.

 

[simplythebest]

https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/473521790212640768

[Shibata] We're thrilled that more than 1.2 million copies of #MK8 have already been sold worldwide! Happy racing!

Well damn. This game really is selling consoles

Keep the momentum going with your Wallets people!

 

[Nemecyst]

Because the Wii already had a good and varied library before Mario Kart and the motion controls to differentiate itself. MK8 on the other hand is the first WiiU game that looks like Nintendo actually gives a damn. MK8 would have also rightfully bombed, if it was another low effort cash-in like the WiiU platformers and minigame collections most non-dedicated gamers most likely can't even differ from the near identical (still recent) 3DS/Wii predecessors. Everyone can see the generational leap in Mk8 one expected from Nintendo in HD from the very first second though, despite MK7 already looking great.

If EAD Tokyo, Retro and Intelligent Systems had actually gotten proper projects to work with instead of phoning in inferior panic mode map packs, plus scratching all the minigame collections for at least one or two ambitious games early on, Nintendo might have actually been able to go way beyond GCN numbers.
But now it's too late. And Smash seems to continue the trend of not even reaching graphical standards alongside having tired content (especially once the 3DS version's out).

Like clockwork. Please, tell us how you really feel.

 

[cafemomo]

So far it looks like no one is buying Wii u for this game.

Says you.

I bought a WiiU for this game.

 

[OmahaG8]

Because the Wii already had a good and varied library before Mario Kart and the motion controls to differentiate itself. MK8 on the other hand is the first WiiU game that looks like Nintendo actually gives a damn. MK8 would have also rightfully bombed, if it was another low effort cash-in like the WiiU platformers and minigame collections most non-dedicated gamers most likely can't even differ from the near identical (still recent) 3DS/Wii predecessors. Everyone can see the generational leap in Mk8 one expected from Nintendo in HD from the very first second though, despite MK7 already looking great.

If EAD Tokyo, Retro and Intelligent Systems had actually gotten proper projects to work with instead of phoning in inferior panic mode map packs, plus scratching all the minigame collections for at least one or two ambitious games early on, Nintendo might have actually been able to go way beyond GCN numbers.
But now it's too late. And Smash seems to continue the trend of not even reaching graphical standards alongside having tired content (especially once the 3DS version's out).

I like you. Give it time.

Nintendo will do as Nintendo does and disappoint for the foreseeable future. It is foolish to get your hopes up.

3 years Club Nintendo platinum in a row. Their shit is old and tired - and apparently I'm part of the problem.

 

[Axass]

Because the Wii already had a good and varied library before Mario Kart and the motion controls to differentiate itself. MK8 on the other hand is the first WiiU game that looks like Nintendo actually gives a damn. MK8 would have also rightfully bombed, if it was another low effort cash-in like the WiiU platformers and minigame collections most non-dedicated gamers most likely can't even differ from the near identical (still recent) 3DS/Wii predecessors. Everyone can see the generational leap in Mk8 one expected from Nintendo in HD from the very first second though, despite MK7 already looking great.

If EAD Tokyo, Retro and Intelligent Systems had actually gotten proper projects to work with instead of phoning in inferior panic mode map packs, plus scratching all the minigame collections for at least one or two ambitious games early on, Nintendo might have actually been able to go way beyond GCN numbers.
But now it's too late. And Smash seems to continue the trend of not even reaching graphical standards alongside having tired content (especially once the 3DS version's out).

What's this nonsense, I don't even...

 

[openrob]

It is different in the uk anything from £15 - £40 but those Nintendo games hold value forever!

I mean look at the price of second hand DS mario 64, Wii mario etc they hardly lose money at all

This. This a million times over. I can grab Rayman or Batman games new for under £15 but Donkey Kong and Super Mario World are still £35 ish!

 

[Amazeballs]

1.2 million in two days is impressive especially when you consider the install base. The fact that MK games tend to have legs long after their release bodes well.

But Wii U still doomed because cludge math analysis and percentages and trends and consensus etc etc etc.

 

[Muffdraul]

The fact that this game was able to pull me away from Watch Dogs over the weekend says a lot, even if it was only three trophies worth. Can't wait to give it my undivided attention. This is the first Mario Kart I'm really really excited about since MK64.

 

[dmr87]

Why is the Zynga CEO in this gif?

Because it's old, except the Luigi part.

 

[javac]

Woohoo nicely done nintendo!

My brother was just watching this episode today lmao!

 

[Ivan 3414]

Junior gonna Junior.

Don't do that.

Yeah, I've seen plenty of similar posts of that caliber coming from regular users here.

 

[WhyMe6]

Wow, this is really impressive for a Wii U game. I hope word of mouth about this game's brilliance, as well as more awareness of the free game promotion, leads to a decent boost in Wii U hardware sales.