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Mario Kart 8 |OT| 8 oW

daydream

Banned
Well since GAF has a private lobby then just out of honesty don't use it for online play if many are against it. Can't control Vs mode against random people but at least people here can set their rules.

I'd be in favour of this, but I also feel like it's too late now.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
This doesnt seem like very much of a problem guys, and I would call this far from cheating, and like a poster above said its a difference of at max 7 seconds which any mistake made would make that extra gain moot
 

ffdgh

Member
No really...gotta consider that this whole hopping thing won't work that well with constant items being thrown around.
 

K' Dash

Member
Don't get me wrong, I fucking love this game and love playing with GAF, but the heavy chars advantage was bullshit and this is complete liquid shit.
 

Acerac

Banned
No really...gotta consider that this whole hopping thing won't work that well with constant items being thrown around.

Naw, it's super broken and nothing can counter it. Let's ban it forever and artificially limit the skillcap of GAF servers.

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Seriously, it's a technique that almost exclusively benefits isolated players. Let those in first and last get benefits, they've earned it/need it.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Nah, online GAF doesn't have the suffocating smell of white hot burning rubber banding offline 150cc provides.

If you're unlucky to get in a race with 11 really really really good players, there's no need for rubber banding. One mistake in the front, you get nailed by a dozen items and are languishing in the back for the rest of the race.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
maybe I really do suck but I suck so bad everytime I use my mario kart main bowser, I thought heavies didnt stand a chance in this game, maybe its cause im playing against gaf but shit man
 

Acerac

Banned
maybe I really do suck but I suck so bad everytime I use my mario kart main bowser, I thought heavies didnt stand a chance in this game, maybe its cause im playing against gaf but shit man
Been tearing up with Roy on a bike. I find the key is to make sure you get some decent accel and go out of your way for coins early.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
No really...gotta consider that this whole hopping thing won't work that well with constant items being thrown around.

this right here... it will give you an advantage of SECONDS tops in a straight race without weapons.
 

K' Dash

Member
No really...gotta consider that this whole hopping thing won't work that well with constant items being thrown around.

if you get ahead in first place and use this, it's over.

It is known that if you are in the first four is easier to mantain those positions, the pack is a bloody war, so 5 to 12 won't be able to do this often.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
maybe I really do suck but I suck so bad everytime I use my mario kart main bowser, I thought heavies didnt stand a chance in this game, maybe its cause im playing against gaf but shit man

I main Bowser as well. I use the bike to get better handling and accel stats but still have decent speed. I hold my own online, but I have to run as clean a race as possible to have a chance at a top 3 finish. Usually end up in the middle due to item shenanigans. ;)
 

Tabasco

Member
So is this hopping technique similar to snaking something to be concerned about?

I can only see it being useful in time trials, which breaks that part of the game, IMO. :(
 

RiggyRob

Member
If hopping gives you speed boost, fuck it. If they do it just do cover less distance and better line themselves up for drifts, it's acceptable.

It doesn't give you a boost, it maintains the boost you'd already get from a drift for slightly longer than you would by staying on the ground.

It's probably something to do with having a different speed/acceleration in air vs ground, so it's patchable but not necessary IMO.
 

ffdgh

Member
So, how does that hopping technique work? Hopping mantains boost speed (kind of like wheelies in MKWii)?

It somehow makes karts, atvs...and certain bikes go even faster. It slows you down on downward slopes and most anti gravity places.
 

Azuran

Banned
Oh boy, only 3 days in and I already have a chance to learn a completely new advanced technique? I'm delighted

It somehow makes karts, atvs...and certain bikes go even faster. It slows you down on downward slopes and most anti gravity places.

Huh? Didn't hopping make you faster on downward slopes in MK7?
 

Robin64

Member
Once a room starts shrinking, it never seems to grow back. Better to leave and rejoin.

Also hit with the "item box won't stop turning" bug those last few races. Bleh.
 

KHlover

Banned
Naw, it's super broken and nothing can counter it. Let's ban it forever and artificially limit the skillcap of GAF servers.

...

Seriously, it's a technique that almost exclusively benefits isolated players. Let those in first and last get benefits, they've earned it/need it.

In my experience first place often gets away nicely while 2-8 slaughter each other. Admittedly this impression is about three days old by now, but still...
 
Once a room starts shrinking, it never seems to grow back. Better to leave and rejoin.

Also hit with the "item box won't stop turning" bug those last few races. Bleh.

That's a bug? I thought it was just Papercuts' King of Fighters 12-tier netcode effecting me. That mothafucka turned forever, and I got a single mushroom. Thanks, I'm only in 9th place Nintendo
 

Acerac

Banned
In my experience first place often gets away nicely while 2-8 slaughter each other. Admittedly this impression is about three days old by now, but still...
This might sound coldhearted, but I think I'm ready for a Mario Kart game that doesn't punish players for being in first place.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
In my experience first place often gets away nicely while 2-8 slaughter each other. Admittedly this impression is about three days old by now, but still...

1st place can pull away for 80% of the entire race, and still end up in 8th or worse due to one mistake or item. A really good player though can nearly lap the field if they have defensive items and play a clean race.
 

random25

Member
I'd be in favour of this, but I also feel like it's too late now.

Probably too late when going to Worldwide or Regionals since you'll probably encounter one who'll do it, but in a closed environment one could just say "DON'T USE THAT HOP F*CK WHATEVER!" and it'll be fine. It's still too early, but we'll see how this unfolds.

Maybe Sakurai should handle MK development and EAD do the Smash since Sakurai hates those things being abused lol.
 
Probably too late when going to Worldwide or Regionals since you'll probably encounter one who'll do it, but in a closed environment one could just say "DON'T USE THAT HOP F*CK WHATEVER!" and it'll be fine. It's still too early, but we'll see how this unfolds.

Maybe Sakurai should handle MK development and EAD do the Smash since Sakurai hates those things being abused lol.

Mario Kart 9, random engine stalling incoming
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
yeah once you slip into 6-12 place than your fucked for most of the race, people say theres rubberbanding(not that im an expert of knowing it) but you can fall so far behind someone thats in 11th place and you could be sincerely trying to catch back up
 

Acerac

Banned
Probably too late when going to Worldwide or Regionals since you'll probably encounter one who'll do it, but in a closed environment one could just say "DON'T USE THAT HOP F*CK WHATEVER!" and it'll be fine. It's still too early, but we'll see how this unfolds.

Maybe Sakurai should handle MK development and EAD do the Smash since Sakurai hates those things being abused lol.

I will reiterate, I am going to be extremely unhappy if we agree to this. For full disclosure, I've never used this technique and my favorite loadout is unable to even perform it, but I think it's bullshit to ban it when it's completely beatable.

It's like I'm playing Melee and people are bitching about Wavedashing again.
 

NIN90

Member
How hard is this hopping to pull off? Doesn't seem like something that ruins online, more like something that heightens the skill ceiling.
Remember, strafejumping originated as a glitch.
 

saturnine

Member
If you're unlucky to get in a race with 11 really really really good players, there's no need for rubber banding. One mistake in the front, you get nailed by a dozen items and are languishing in the back for the rest of the race.
Oh I agree, I got reckt plenty myself, but I find this not as infuriating as the computer clearly cheating.
 

Kinsei

Banned
How hard is this hopping to pull off? Doesn't seem like something that ruins online, more like something that heightens the skill ceiling.

Regular snaking wasn't hard to do, but it still completely ruined the online in Mario Kart DS.
 
I'd say that first place in this MK is safer than in most other MK's, it's not uncommon for the second place racer to get hit more than you, and once you have a buffer and a defensive item there's not much that can go wrong as long as you keep it clean.

I noticed that item box bug as well, I thought my L button was broken, it's really annoying if I need the item fast.
 

random25

Member
I will reiterate, I am going to be extremely unhappy if we agree to this. For full disclosure, I've never used this technique and my favorite loadout is unable to even perform it, but I think it's bullshit to ban it when it's completely beatable.

It's like I'm playing Melee and people are bitching about Wavedashing again.

I'm not disagreeing with you there. Like I said, if majority hates those skills being used then have a lobby with a self-imposing ban on using it. Then there will be another room with players allowing that skill, or any other "glitch" to be used in races for fair game. Like a smoking and non-smoking rooms. Or a "For Fun" or "For Glory" lobbies... :p
 
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