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[Zeyphersan]

Main series Pokemon will always be on handheld*

You could get like a Pokemon Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness game, but no one really wants that

*Unless the next console does that "hybrid" thing where software works on both console and handheld. But that seems like a loophole

 

[Hero of Legend]

Said it before an will demand it again:

Pokémon Ranger U!

Believe!


But no OP what you wants not gonna happen. There is Pokèmon Rumble U which is an action/adventurish kinda game I think?

Killer idea, I mean they got Canvas Curse 2/Rainbow Curse, why not bring some more DS-first series?

Same goes for Nintendogs, why has this not happened Nintendo?!

 

[jobrro]

Nintendo/GameFreak's arguments against a console Pokemon RPG have largely been invalidated since the wide use of online gaming on consoles/handhelds, at least for me.

It made sense in the GameBoy/GBA days where it would be unlikely for people to link two home consoles together to enable trading and battling, but all of my trades and battles in Pokemon X have been online. Sure it may be different in Japan where there might be 3DS systems and people playing Pokemon in much more abundance, but I think in the West an online console Pokemon could be similarly social as a handheld version.

We haven't even received a Stadium-esque game since Gen 4 though, so it's not really looking good. Perhaps when the next generation Nintendo handheld/console on a shared architecture are available they will have run out of excuses?

 

[AGITΩ]

Pokemon Warrior....believe

but this time is gonna be like hyrule warriors

I thought that was the original pitch they made to Nintendo but they were like, nah, too violent for Pokemon, howabout a different IP?

On topic though, I wish for another Pokemon Colosseum type set ups without the whole Dark Pokemon thing. Pretty much a Pokemon that's more story driven than just beat gyms, beat the elite four, minor skirmish with the big bads.

 

[fredrancour]

On one hand it would have a chance of being very big. on the other hand, the Pokemon company seems rather risk-averse and the budget would be huge. Game freak also seems competely unqualified to make a large-scale HD game so they'd need to either entrust it to a new Dev or get lots of outside help.i wonder how game freak and monolith as a team would work on an rpg....

I have a feeling that an hd game with online play and a more subdued art style and color palate might be momentous best shot at reducing the anti-Pokemon stigma in the west.could also bring back lapsed Nintendo customers.
If another trustworthy studio could do Pokemon rocking-red and banging-blue for wiiu then Nintendo could hedge their bets by keeping game freak on the traditional Pokemon games as cash cows. Might even give the two lines unique identities: see new regions and monsters on the handhelds, see fan-favorites on the consoles in high-end glory.

 

[deltatheta]

The Pokemon MMO is the Chekov's gun of Nintendo. It's going to be fired at some point before the third act.

 

[BinaryPork2737]

Another entry to the Colosseum franchise would be great for me. I actually really liked Colosseum and XD, played through them so many times when I was younger.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Dat pokemon MMO pipe dream

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[Kriken]

Pokemon Colosseum and Gale of Darkness will be the closest thing you'll ever get to a full fledged Pokemon game on a console.

 

[SegaShack]

Another entry to the Colosseum franchise would be great for me. I actually really liked Colosseum and XD, played through them so many times when I was younger.

I have to disagree. Colloseum was so misleading and disapointing. I wasted 50 bucks on that game.

 

[someguyinahat]

A Pokemon game? There's a chance.

A "substantial" one? No chance.

 

[Mr Buddy]

Pokepark 3 will probably be the only 3d wii u pokemon game we'll get

Spoiler

*sob*

 

[Zeyphersan]

I have to disagree. Colloseum was so misleading and disapointing. I wasted 50 bucks on that game.

For real though. They were not honest about what that game was at ALL

 

[jnWake]

Just hope that Pokken turns out to be a real game.

Fixed.

Sometimes I feel like asking why do they even make consoles to begin with when time and time again their handhelds outperform their consoles in sales and market share, are cheaper to make, the software is cheaper to make, and generally more positively received. But it's not like Nintendo can not make a console.

So far they have made consoles that create experiences that can't be replicated in their handhelds (Gameboy and N64, GBA and GCN, NDS and Wii were very pretty different). 3DS has closed the gap a lot and it really shows on Wii U's performance though, so their next step will be interesting. We know they'll make both a handheld and a standard console, but who knows how different they'll be this time...

 

[TreIII]

Still waiting for 'Pokken'.

Same.

I'm hoping we may finally get another glimpse if this year at the Pokémon Game Show, since last year was when we got that brief Lucario and Blaziken face-off.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Same.

I'm hoping we may finally get another glimpse if this year at the Pokémon Game Show, since last year was when we got that brief Lucario and Blaziken face-off.

Do they have one every year? It was like Aug 4th last year, so close! :O

Edit: August 17th actually.

Edit: Just to show those unaware:

 

[RedSwirl]

The main series has nothing to gain from being on a console. It probably wouldn't sell any better. The only benefit is that it would sell Wii Us.

Plus, the 3DS is already powerful enough to offer, essentially, a fully 3D Pokemon adventure (I haven't played my copy of X yet). The only obvious thing they could do that would even require a console or work better on a console is an MMO, and the people who make Pokemon are against that for the time being.

Other than an MMO, in my mind the only other kind of Pokemon adventure that would justify a console is some kind of completely new game that resets the entire formula. Maybe it would no longer be turn-based and no longer have battle transitions -- just all the Pokemon appearing and fighting in the same open world. And maybe that open world would be massive and at a greater scale like a Skyrim sort of thing. In a singleplayer setting would probably be against the whole reason for making Pokemon in the first place though.

Maybe if Nintendo's next hardware cycle is indeed two devices sharing a software ecosystem you'll get a Pokemon that is de facto multiplatform and cross-buy.

 

[trinest]

Pokemon Warrior....believe

but this time is gonna be like hyrule warriors

Did anything even come out of this, like is the gsme out yet? Also wasn't it as 3DS game anyway?

 

[RedSwirl]

Nintendo/GameFreak's arguments against a console Pokemon RPG have largely been invalidated since the wide use of online gaming on consoles/handhelds, at least for me.

It made sense in the GameBoy/GBA days where it would be unlikely for people to link two home consoles together to enable trading and battling, but all of my trades and battles in Pokemon X have been online. Sure it may be different in Japan where there might be 3DS systems and people playing Pokemon in much more abundance, but I think in the West an online console Pokemon could be similarly social as a handheld version.

We haven't even received a Stadium-esque game since Gen 4 though, so it's not really looking good. Perhaps when the next generation Nintendo handheld/console on a shared architecture are available they will have run out of excuses?

That's part of the problem though. It's why we saw so many PSP games that were local-only -- too many Japanese developers don't understand what the environment is like in the west. Nintendo ended up having to make major changes to the StreetPass system outside Japan because they originally assumed it would work as well as it does in Japan.

Japan is still being dragged kicking and screaming into online gaming as far as consoles are concerned, and that's going to have to continue for as long as they try to sell games in the west.

 

[TreIII]

Do they have one every year? It was like Aug 4th last year, so close! :O

Edit: August 17th actually

Serebii Joe would likely know more about when it will be.

But in any case, Namco's Harada keeps hinting that he has like 2 unannounced games he's working that he would at least like to announce this year. Tekken 7 was one of them...

 

[udivision]

Did anything even come out of this, like is the gsme out yet? Also wasn't it as 3DS game anyway?

It was a DS game, and it came out in the West & Japan.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Did anything even come out of this, like is the gsme out yet? Also wasn't it as 3DS game anyway?

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[Lindsay]

I have to disagree. Colloseum was so misleading and disapointing. I wasted 50 bucks on that game.

For real though. They were not honest about what that game was at ALL

Who was misleading? I read about the game in Nintendo Power an got just about what I'd expected.

The main series has nothing to gain from being on a console. It probably wouldn't sell any better. The only benefit is that it would sell Wii Us.

Yup an Pokémon has lotsa side-series/games. Its cool that the main series sticks to handhelds. I like that console & handheld poké-games have been pretty different from one another. Handhelds got the main games, Ranger, Mystery Dungeon, Conquest. Consoles got Stadium-battlers, Channel, PokéPark, Rumble. Theres lotsa pokémon ta go around so getting different types on different systems is good by me.

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Totally want a Conquest sequel~

 

[QKT100]

This guy is trolling in every thread? I thought shit like this wasn't tolerated here.

I'm sorry but what?

Game Freak are a relatively small dev comprised of staff generally irreplaceable to Pokémon's handheld development. You can't just take these guys and slap them in front of some Wii U dev kits, hoping they handle the HD transition and have access to the VAST resources required to make the kind of game you're looking for. So which studio would you bring in to make up these numbers? Genius Sonority? They haven't made a console Pokémon game in nearly 10 years (not that they were good anyway). Monolith are probably the Nintendo studio most capable of such a feat, but their style of development doesn't exactly strike me as being suited to Pokémon

Not to mention

1| A console Pokémon would not have a high of a payoff as handheld, the dev costs would be huge in comparison
2| You're unnecessarily competing with the handheld titles

But no, I said something you don't like so I must be trolling.

 

[Kariodude]

I feel like if they were ever going to do a fully 3D Pokemon game on a home console, they would have done it by now. If they're going to do it now in the future, there has to be a real reason for them to do it instead of it just being something that some people want.

 

[Koppai]

If Nintendo had smash bros and Pokemon this Christmas, Wii u saved! although it's doing pretty good since Mario kart hit

 

[God Dayumm]

Gamefreak likes to sell lots of copies of their game.

What if they develop it for ps4 and xbone and pc?

Spoiler

Not port begging!

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Everyone and their mother knows that a Pokemon MMO / RPG for console would sell like 30 million copies and save the Wii U. Everyone knows that! You know, just like Dragon Quest X and Final Fantasy Online did. Just like they did...

Bottom line, X doesn't equal Y. Pokemon excels at being a a portable title for children on the go.

 

[vareon]

I feel like if they were ever going to do a fully 3D Pokemon game on a home console, they would have done it by now. If they're going to do it now in the future, there has to be a real reason for them to do it instead of it just being something that some people want.

3D console Pokemon is basically Nintendo's equivalent to Square Enix' FF7 remake.

 

[udivision]

I feel like if they were ever going to do a fully 3D Pokemon game on a home console, they would have done it by now. If they're going to do it now in the future, there has to be a real reason for them to do it instead of it just being something that some people want.

I wonder... looking at the Wii U's install base.

How do you sell games to these people? As amazing as I bet Xenoblade Chronicles will be, is that a game that can sell well to the Wii U audience? And it doesn't look cheap.

Pikmin 3 wasn't particularly.
The Wonderful 101 certainly wasn't.
Bayonetta 2? I don't think it will be.
Not even DKCTF seems to be doing particularly well, even with it's reduced price point.

Maybe the fear is that a Pokemon game would end up with those games and a bunch of other bombs, but those IP's are either new or not particularly strong.

Pokemon is a really strong brand. It seems like before you put out a Metroid Wii U or a Star Fox Wii U, you might consider "reviving" a console pokemon spinoff if not only to lay the groundwork for the next-gen and hopefully a better selling console.

As bad as Pokemon Colosseum was, it was the best selling RPG on the Gamecube (1.85 million). And the Gamecube had a host of good RPG's too, so it wasn't like it was a wasteland like the Wii U is. They leveraged the assets they created with the first one, and went on the make it's sequel which was the third best-selling GC RPG (1.25 million).
Maybe that wasn't enough, but it sure seems like it.

The way I see it is like "Are the (typically) better sales of 2D Mario and (and it's fraction of a budget) a reason why Nintendo should give up on 3D Mario adventures? "

 

[bitesnintendog]

Pokemon stopped being a social experience for me after middle school so I would really hate that being the reason they won't make a real console RPG. I don't see it happening but my dream would be a remake of gen 1 on a console.

 

[TaiKH92]

That's not happenning most probably, remember how Gamefreak makes an emphasis on Pokemon being a portable experience and it'd need more resources than the ones they'd be willing to spend :/

 

[Nanashrew]

Nintendo/GameFreak's arguments against a console Pokemon RPG have largely been invalidated since the wide use of online gaming on consoles/handhelds, at least for me.

It made sense in the GameBoy/GBA days where it would be unlikely for people to link two home consoles together to enable trading and battling, but all of my trades and battles in Pokemon X have been online. Sure it may be different in Japan where there might be 3DS systems and people playing Pokemon in much more abundance, but I think in the West an online console Pokemon could be similarly social as a handheld version.

We haven't even received a Stadium-esque game since Gen 4 though, so it's not really looking good. Perhaps when the next generation Nintendo handheld/console on a shared architecture are available they will have run out of excuses?

I believe the next handheld console is around the corner so the online features are just going to get better for Pokemon. I don't really see a reason why they would move. It's on the go stuff and that also plays the biggest factor with Pokemon. It's both local and online. Moving to console would probably remove the local except for random battle? I dunno.

Any time I really see this discussion brought up it's always grandiose ideas and things that really hype people up that Gamefreak won't live up to. They're a really small company. I think even on the next handheld that will be more powerful to support better 3D models, they'll still stick to what they do like tile based movement, improve the scale of the Pokemon and the look of the trainers. World could see some enhancements as well. Bite sized adventure with a basic story that you can just pick up and play anywhere you are.

 

[jackal27]

POCKET Monsters.

 

[Htown]

Full console Pokemon is never going to happen.

Might as well let it go.

 

[OmegaDL50]

I'm sorry but what?

Game Freak are a relatively small dev comprised of staff generally irreplaceable to Pokémon's handheld development. You can't just take these guys and slap them in front of some Wii U dev kits, hoping they handle the HD transition and have access to the VAST resources required to make the kind of game you're looking for. So which studio would you bring in to make up these numbers? Genius Sonority? They haven't made a console Pokémon game in nearly 10 years (not that they were good anyway). Monolith are probably the Nintendo studio most capable of such a feat, but their style of development doesn't exactly strike me as being suited to Pokémon

Not to mention

1| A console Pokémon would not have a high of a payoff as handheld, the dev costs would be huge in comparison
2| You're unnecessarily competing with the handheld titles

But no, I said something you don't like so I must be trolling.

No. The fact you said Nintendo doesn't have the staff capable of making a console based Pokemon RPG that is like the mainline handheld titles on console. It's this statement you said that is absolutely false.

Did you know that Monolith worked on several projects for Nintendo EAD before. They did work on Smash Brawl, Skyward Sword, Pikmin III, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf.

All of these games having varying styles and genres. So they are rather flexible on the projects they can do.

One does not even need to look beyond a title like Xenoblade to see that Nintendo is more then capable of making a console Pokemon RPG with a very large world.

 

[Nanashrew]

No. The fact you said Nintendo doesn't have the staff capable of making a console based Pokemon RPG that is like the mainline handheld titles on console. It's this statement you said that is absolutely false.

Did you know that Monolith worked on several projects for Nintendo EAD before. They did work on Smash Brawl, Skyward Sword, Pikmin III, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf.

All of these games having varying styles and genres. So they are rather flexible on the projects they can do.

One does not even need to look beyond a title like Xenoblade to see that Nintendo is more then capable of making a console Pokemon RPG with a very large world.

Monolith Soft also has like two buildings? One is filled with artists and help with both Monolith Soft and Nintendo as well as any of their other studios. The other is Monolith Soft proper that makes games and has the main staff that have been and are still working on X. The art staff are the ones who helped on the titles you mentioned.

 

[SerTapTap]

Doubt it. Consoles are for pokemon spin-offs and they don't usually get all too much attention. If we're lucky we'll still get the obligatory Pokemon Stadium esque game, Pokken if it's real, and maybe some other weird spin off a la the stupid Ranch thing (though storing pokemon on console is no longer necessary).

Console's always a big ignored because of the social nature of Pokemon trading, though N64 had a lot because of the initial pokemon boom and GSC. Games were great though...then again I was 10. I'd replay Hey You Pikachu in a heartbeat if I had the hardware or if I could emulate it.

Edit:

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I'm sorry what. I thought this was good fanart of a fake game. Those humans look super wrong next to those pokemon.

 

[JoeM86]

And, as if by magic, the Pokémon Professor appeared.

Short answer: No, long answer:

Pokémon is a game which is fundamentally built around social aspects. The large part of its success is in its portability and it has always been designed around that. For the young and Japanese, this is still wildly popular and you'll seldom go somewhere without seeing a kid or a fan carrying their 3DS along with other Pokémon paraphernalia
While it has since evolved to include online aspects, if they were to completely cut out the portability aspect, it would damage the user base and it would severely damage sales (not that putting it on the Wii U wouldn't do that in the first place).
As such, Game Freak are firmly against it. They run the franchise and decide where it goes, so it isn't going to happen.

Pokemon Warrior....believe

but this time is gonna be like hyrule warriors

Nope. That was their initial pitch to The Pokémon Company, but they turned it down and recommended the Nobunaga's Ambition crossover

The Pokemon MMO is the Chekov's gun of Nintendo. It's going to be fired at some point before the third act.

It isn't Nintendo's decision.

Pokepark 3 will probably be the only 3d wii u pokemon game we'll get

Spoiler

*sob*

Nothing wrong with that. The PokéPark games are woefully under-rated.

Do they have one every year? It was like Aug 4th last year, so close! :O

Edit: August 17th actually.

Edit: Just to show those unaware:

They haven't announced one this year I think it must have been a one-off.

 

[MisterGrey3000]

Gamefreak likes to sell lots of copies of their game.

Full console Pokemon is never going to happen.

Might as well let it go.

I was basically going to say this.

 

[Beren the Empty-Handed]

Did it ever? I mean, honestly?

I'm still waiting for Pokemon Snap 2, which could've worked very well with the Wiimotes and would work for the GamePad (like how Fatal Frame is doing it).

 

[Boss Doggie]

People who spout these ideas have a tendency not to know what they're talking about.

Just as bad as people shouting POKEMON MMO *their mouth drools and their brains go haywire*

Seriously.

 

[Rosur]

Do they have one every year? It was like Aug 4th last year, so close! :O

Edit: August 17th actually.

Edit: Just to show those unaware:

I hope we here something from this. Expecting it to be a fighting based Pokemon game though if that's a battle view for an actual Pokemon game that would be awesome.

 

[Htown]

Or more likely it's another Pokemon Stadium type game

 

[JoeM86]

People who spout these ideas have a tendency not to know what they're talking about.

Just as bad as people shouting POKEMON MMO *their mouth drools and their brains go haywire*

Seriously.

To be fair, a lot of people, possibly because they're older, or are in remote parts of America/Europe, just miss the fact that Pokémon is really a social experience. If they're in Japan, they'd notice this more.

 

[Kura]

GameFreak owes that to us. The people who grew up with the first generations and made GF what they are now.

Still targeting children and forgetting the older fans who gave them success is like a betrayal = (

 

[Htown]

GameFreak owes that to us. The people who grew up with the first generations and made GF what they are now.

Still targeting children and forgetting the older fans who gave them success is like a betrayal = (

lol

they don't owe you anything

 

[Kura]

lol

they don't owe you anything

No, they dont. But they could be at least grateful to us.
They become what they are with OUR help.

Forgetting about us is the perfect example of a company who only cares about money and doesnt give a fuck about their fans.

 

[Aβydoς]

What the fuck happened to Pokkén?

 

[BumblebeeCody]

The dream is dead.