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[Elios83]

IIRC only US owners can download the patch.

Ah ok thank you, so the patch is already available, not day one after all
Btw I'm going to try both the options, better shadows will definetly add a lot to the graphics especially considering that the game has a lot of vegetation casting shadows.
60 fps....I'd like to see how much it enhances the gameplay (if at all besides the sense of extra fluidity, considering the game was born as a 30fps experience).
Btw I think that the high res shadows could have been achievable at 60fps as well with the right development time and optimizations.
Clearly this game wasn't that much of a priority within Naughty Dog, it's just a way to let people play the game on PS4 (especially those who didn't own a PS3 before) in an improved package.

 

[RoboPlato]

Difference is noticeable but not game changing. Will switch to 30 for photo mode but 60 most of the time.

 

[Murtrod]

I have to say, I think I'm going to lock 30 for more eye candy. It certainly still looks gorgeous, but I wouldn't a little more visual fidelity...

Yes, I am one of those people who does not mind 30 FPS (but nothing under that!).

 

[orochi91]

I have to say, I think I'm going to lock 30 for more eye candy. It certainly still looks gorgeous, but I wouldn't a little more visual fidelity...

Yes, I am one of those people who does not mind 30 FPS (but nothing under that!).

Same.

I'll take the eye-candy for the campaign.

 

[CloudyTuba]

Wow, bummer ps4 is actually lacking in ways compared to ps3.

Yeah, whats up with that?

 

[Metalingus5150]

I hope those missing shadows get fixed.

 

[VisceralBowl]

Found a new one. The door frame has no shadow.

 

[orochi91]

Yeah, whats up with that?

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

 

[RoboPlato]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

AA is pretty good and the 60fps shadows are still double the PS3 samples. That gif is the only evidence I've seen of missing shadows. Could just be a bug.

 

[Slowdive]

Found a new one. The door frame has no shadow.

I was fine with it before but no shadows on the door frame? Pre-order cancelled.

Seriously though it's weird, I hope they can be patched in.

 

[StuBurns]

AA is pretty good and the 60fps shadows are still double the PS3 samples.

Shhhh, no logic, only stupid now.

 

[VisceralBowl]

AA is pretty good and the 60fps shadows are still double the PS3 samples.

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Something something joke

Shhhh, no logic, only stupid now.

yes.

 

[RedAssedApe]

can't tell whose joking anymore...lol

 

[LiquidMetal14]

We must go deeper. How do the discs look and are they 1080p?!

 

[Ishan]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

isnt this a cutscene ... lol

 

[JohnGrimm]

We must go deeper. How do the discs look and are they 1080p?!

No, they're 360p.

 

[boredandlazy]

isnt this a cutscene ... lol

Nope.

 

[3rdamention]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

Wow, I don't seem to remember them hyping it up to cringe worthy levels. They talked about how well the game played at 60fps, and how it looked better.


What are examples of the embarrassing hype you are even talking about? Sounds like you are trying to create your own narrative that doesn't really exist...


Plus your examples are pretty funny...a door frame shadow? Lol

 

[Metfanant]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

Lmao...you might be dangerous if you had a clue as to what you were talking about

 

[travisbickle]

Looks like a new rendering technique for producing shadows, which has left a few gaps that they've probably spent 6 months trying to fill. The characters have good self-shadow casting now.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

1 million more pixels, better image quality, shadow 2x resolution, twice the framerate, using the higher quality cutscene models as standard, and you're fretting over some random shadows glitches? Shadow quality which can be increased even higher overall by you choose to select 30fps?

This is the worse you got? Naughty Dog done good then.

 

[adin75]

I can honestly say, if it was a spot the difference game that someone hadn't already put big red circles on, I would have struggled to notice those differences.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

I can honestly say, if it was a spot the difference game that someone hadn't already put big red circles on, I would have struggled to notice those differences.

Watching it full size, the most notable thing is the increase in IQ too, so I don't get the complaint about AA either.

 

[VisceralBowl]

Are you guys taking that as a serious comment?

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No wonder this thread got blown out of proportion.

 

[93xfan]

ND aren't as good as some were led to believe. I cringe when I recall how much
ND employees hyped this remaster up over the past few weeks. Embarrassing shit.

Can't even get a last-gen port to run with proper shadows and anti-aliasing. They've
got balls charging $50 for this.

Case in fucking point:

Look at how flat the ivy looks on ps4 by comparison. This game has no excuse for not looking better in every aspect. Think I'll call Sony and demand a refund on Monday.

And why does anyone try to defend this?! This isn't the definitive version we were led to believe

 

[thefit]

I'm glad I have the option of playing it different ways that's pretty awesome for a console game. Its like PC only not quite there yet but better than not having an option.

 

[TAJ]

Naughty Dog should add a 1fps mode just to troll people who need to have the highest available fidelity.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Are you guys taking that as a serious comment?

Spoiler

No wonder this thread got blown out of proportion.

Meh. Can't get them all.

 

[Zabka]

Shadow rendering looks offset. A shame but probably fixed in a patch real soon.

 

[RoboPlato]

Are you guys taking that as a serious comment?

Spoiler

No wonder this thread got blown out of proportion.

I thought he was someone who was harping on the game having some aliasing since the game was initially shown. I must have gotten him confused with another member.

 

[93xfan]

So 60fps has better everything over the original games including shadows. Dropping it down to 30fps gives even better shadows because they can.

Sounds good to me.

Reading some of the comments though, yeesh.

This common thought is why we need a new thread about missing shadows in the ps4 version. 100% unacceptable.

How much did they rush this game?

 

[FloweryMarston]

when you need to circle out the EMBARRASSING SHIT to show how this remaster is a cash in, it means that you are the embarrassing thing here.

I mean, they hyped about the better framerate, IQ, photomode, resolution, and WOW all of these thing are present and they show great enhancements in the new version.

This is still a ps3 game guys, i said this in the thread about a month ago, we will get enhancements to the base game that will look great in your tv, it's also a great package for people who didn't buy the DLC. But you shouldn't expect this to show off the capabilities of the current gen games will hit. I mean, the Remasters like MGS collection / GOW collection were great, but they still had the base game and graphics behind it, the biggest change was resolution, AA, IQ and performance. Just like this remaster.

I mean, just looking at some of the posters here, holy shit, how can you live with yourselves getting OFFENDED by a still image where the details you are all dying over is something that you wouldn't even notice in first place if some other user didn't CIRCLE OUT THAT FOR YOU. why don't they show the giraffes part, where the aliasing was crazy in the ps3 version, but in the ps4 version it is much improved? jesus christ neogaf

 

[Mihos]

I haven't bought either version yet and it seems like the PS4 is the best version. I probably wouldn't double dip if I played the first, but WTF with the 'not worth $50' comment?

 

[antitrop]

Activision didn't produce a single HD Call of Duty last generation on console because maintaining 60 frames is that important.

If those higher res shadows are really worth sacrificing 60 frames per second, then fuck this world. It's such a small visual detail to an otherwise beautiful looking game, that the better frame rate is definitely the way to go.

I completely agree, but there are quite a lot of people that think something like "The Last of Us is a slower paced stealth game, so it doesn't really need 60fps".

 

[SuperEpicGuy]

The textures look the same and the amount of objects looks the same. What did this game improve apart form double the frames, some higher res textures, slightly better shadows and higher lod (basically like turning up the settings on a pc and getting a new graphics card)? No new ambient occlusion, no txaa, PhysX, gameworks or anything.

I completely agree, but there are quite a lot of people that think something like "The Last of Us is a slower paced stealth game, so it doesn't really need 60fps".

The problem is that when you turn around to check for enemies as you slowly walk around you can't see shit thanks to the image updating every 32 ms. Doing a spin at a constant rate is the #1 killer for my eyes with 30 fps. I died (metaphorically) in last of us everytime I had to look around.

 

[JLeack]

Has anyone else here been through the Subway Spores section in the Remastered version? If so... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDEEEEEE.

 

[katkombat]

so much for naughty gods preorder cancelled

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impulse buy on Tuesday??? Decisions...

 

[cheezcake]

I haven't bought either version yet and it seems like the PS4 is the best version. I probably wouldn't double dip if I played the first, but WTF with the 'not worth $50' comment?

I would agree that it's not worth $50 if you bought the PS3 version, it's just a remaster not a full on remake.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

This thread tells me some of you need to spend more time actually playing these games rather than overthinking things.

I mean...just....

 

[orochi91]

I hope those missing shadows get fixed.

I thought he was someone who was harping on the game having some aliasing since the game was initially shown. I must have gotten him confused with another member.

You are correct, that was me. That initial trailer showed aliasing and even introduced
an issue that wasn't present in the PS3 version (Z-fighting). Personally, these comparisons
with regards to the shadows just cemented the idea that ND didn't produce results worthy
of the $50 asking price. I will now wait for a steep discount.

I can only imagine how many other negative discrepancies will crop up once other people
get their hands on the game.

ND are gonna need to issue some patches after release.

 

[AKyemeni]

Has anyone else here been through the Subway Spores section in the Remastered version? If so... DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDEEEEEE.

Oh yeah.

Dem water and particle effects...

 

[bananafactory]

I leave this thread for ONE day and everyone has lost their fucking minds. Holy shit @ some of these meltdowns.

The game is EXACTLY what it was supposed to be - TLOU at 1080p/60fps. It looks really fucking good. It looks better than the PS3 one. No one is trying to lie to your or steal your money or whatever you think they're doing.

Can't wait for the 29th so this shit can be over with.

 

[JLeack]

Oh yeah.

Dem water and particle effects...

Let me PM you.

I leave this thread for ONE day and everyone has lost their fucking minds. Holy shit @ some of these meltdowns.

The game is EXACTLY what it was supposed to be - TLOU at 1080p/60fps. It looks really fucking good. It looks better than the PS3 one. No one is trying to lie to your or steal your money or whatever you think they're doing.

Can't wait for the 29th so this shit can be over with.

NO. You silly bear. This version clearly looks worse. /s

 

[DOWN]

Is it me or is the softer shadow at 60fps more accurate?

 

[bananafactory]

NO. You silly bear. This version clearly looks worse. /s

Oh you're right, I see it now. 2014 the year of the downgrade!

 

[RoboPlato]

Oh yeah.

Dem water and particle effects...

You two are killing me.

 

[Davide]

Last Of Us 2013>2014 downgrade confirmed?

 

[delta25]

Original PS3
Original PS4 (I don't know which shadow mode it was)

where did you get this comparison from?

 

[JLeack]

Last Of Us 2013>2014 downgrade confirmed?

Unless you think this looks good:

This game is so hideous. Titanfall FTW.

 

[orochi91]

Last Of Us 2013>2014 downgrade confirmed?

It isn't as cut-and-dry as it once seemed.