Yeah, that's a shame indeed. Thanks for checking and confirming!
Was done before, no improvements as it's all in 2D.
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Nintendo DS Games in HD
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Yeah, that's a shame indeed. Thanks for checking and confirming!
Was done before, no improvements as it's all in 2D.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Here's more. 4X with FXAA.
Assassin's Creed - Altair's Chronicles
Mario Party DS
Kingdom Hearts 358-2 Days
Assassin's Creed - Altair's Chronicles
Mario Party DS
Kingdom Hearts 358-2 Days
I love you for doing this
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Nice.
To be clear, this isn't an HD upscaler. This is actually rendering the assets at a higher resolution, not simply increasing the size of lower resolution rendered gameplay.
Some shots of Solatorobo. Frame rate is horrible. Edit// OpenGL mode improves the frame rate a bit.
Yeah, or this way
It would be so great, when Nintendo would give us some way, to access this via Wii U or 3DS, but Nintendo is gonna be Nintendo and we will never get this
Hero of Legend
Member
Is it possible to to make the resolution like 320x240 or 400x300?
I'd like to see the most accurate representation of DS games if they were just straight-ported to 3DS, only this time, add 2xAA as I think that's all devs ever use or can use.
If not that res, then just normal res with 2xAA, should work nicely. Even better if you get 3D games that are 192x256 flipped to the side, since cutting off the top or bottom to make the shot 192x240 would make it look like a 3DS game that had its sides chopped off.
I'd like to see the most accurate representation of DS games if they were just straight-ported to 3DS, only this time, add 2xAA as I think that's all devs ever use or can use.
If not that res, then just normal res with 2xAA, should work nicely. Even better if you get 3D games that are 192x256 flipped to the side, since cutting off the top or bottom to make the shot 192x240 would make it look like a 3DS game that had its sides chopped off.
Hero of Legend
Member
That's all 2D though IIRC, it won't look any better.
It's possible to do it in a roundabout way which would be to render at a higher resolution and then downscale the image to 320 x 240. That will have better image quality than being rendered natively at that resolution however.
that shouldn't be a problem. From what I've read, the 3ds development kit can render higher resolutions than the 3ds screen could display, so shouldn't the 3ds hardware be capable of the same in theory?
2d characters on 3D backdrop look really nice scaled up, but 3d characters on a 2D pixelated plane look 'better' when they are left untouched.. Looks like a style choice.
I wouldn't mind playing some of these again in HD. Metroid looks certainly nice and it would be interesting to have an arena shooter on the Wii U - if they'd also provide the online mode..
There is much potential, even though I don't see Nintendo acting on it. We should see a bit of the DS emulation this year, I'm excited to see how it turns out.
I wouldn't mind playing some of these again in HD. Metroid looks certainly nice and it would be interesting to have an arena shooter on the Wii U - if they'd also provide the online mode..
There is much potential, even though I don't see Nintendo acting on it. We should see a bit of the DS emulation this year, I'm excited to see how it turns out.
cooljeanius
Member
So this thread has inspired me to try to merge the patch for this "X432R" fork back onto the original DeSmuME sources, and good grief, what a horror story... line ending mismatches and incorrect character set encodings caused the patch to fail to apply cleanly, and then the parts that did apply properly use platform-specific code without properly ifdef-ing it to apply only on that platform, leading to a bunch of build errors... not to mention the original, unpatched source code is kind of bloated already, with vendored-in subprojects confusingly sitting there undifferentiated from the rest of the source... anyways it looks like I have put a lot of work for myself ahead of me...
I never bothered with this back when it came out, but I decided to give it a try tonight. It looks really nice and it seems to run really well for me at 3x. I can get some slowdown at 4x, but 3x seems to be full speed all the time. I assume it's gotten some major improvements since this thread was made, in terms of speed.
Here's some comparisons I made with Dragon Quest 9 and SaGa 2.
Here's some comparisons I made with Dragon Quest 9 and SaGa 2.
If someone told me that was ACNL before it released, I would totally believe them.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
362 x 272 approx.
peronmls
Member
Would also like to see.
The resolution they would go with would probably be 360x270.
2x 256x192 is 98304 pixels vs 1 x 360x270 is 97200
Master Yoshi
Member
I always felt like the DS was a bit too weak for a fully 3d handheld... I find the most visually pleasing games were the ones that were fully 2d, or a mix of 2d with moderate 3d elements mixed in.
Although I do see how people in this thread find the low-poly models charming. It gives a nostalgic feel.
Although I do see how people in this thread find the low-poly models charming. It gives a nostalgic feel.
Nice; so about the same (actually better) than the standard resolution PS1 and N64 games (sans Expansion Pak)
The DS was more powerful than the N64/PS1/Saturn systems, it's low screen resolution (mixed with lack of texture filtering) hurt it a lot.
Master Yoshi
Member
Hmm. Interesting. Is there any given reason why they didn't aim to get the most they possibly could out of the hardware?
Oh man! After looking through more pictures in this thread, I am seriously impressed! WOW!
Budget and lack of interest in making powerhouse games on handhelds. Developers always tried to push the systems in the N64/PS1 era because they were played on bigger screens; but it wasn't as alluring on a handheld.
But that said; a lot of models on the DS are almost Dreamcast quality.
I'll work on Soma Bringer.
Thoughts so far:
-3D Models look WAY better the more you enhance the 3D Settings.
-Consequently, it also makes the game run like ass.
-Backgrounds don't get improved terribly much, since they're all 2D for the most part. They still look pretty though.
-Can't run Anti-Aliasing on it; as soon as I try, it breaks the emulator. (I guess the graphics card has some major issues with it.)
-Weapon Models seem to be terribly hit-or-miss. Some look REALLY good, but others look terrible due to being low-poly.
Some comparison pics:
SoftRasterizer
OpenGL x4
SoftRasterizer x4
Some DS games have an obvious edge over the PS1.
GTA-like game running at 60fps.
Need for Speed Carbon, also 60fps
Erin S Kittens
Member
Oh my wow, they look fantastic! I've been looking for a reason to replay DQ9 <3
xaeroxcore
Banned
Watching this HD screenshots the Nintendo statement that the DS is more poweful than the N64 becomes clearer. Some games looks even closer to a early PS2/DC (or late 90´s -2000 PC game) game than a N64-PSX style games...
baphomet
Member
How do emulated shots showing things completely impossible for the system to do say anything about how powerful it was?
xaeroxcore
Banned
Because that emulated shots shows how much detail was indeed ingame, but was lost due to low screen resolution. In other hand, N64 is still over all more powerful (despite the DS can do some effects impossible on the 64 bit machine), because the with the original DS hard would be impossible to create the graphics of Metroido or Dementium at a higher res.
pinkurocket
Member
I don't know if 'Deep Labyrinth' was ever a game that got noticed, but it had some really interesting looking full 3D graphics that I'd love to see upscaled.
JPeeples83
Member
DraStic is pretty great and runs perfectly sideloaded on the OUYA.
Emulation doesn't change the game, it just presents it at a higher resolution. Everything you see here the DS did; you just see it more clearly now because it's rendered at a much higher resolution.
Yeah, they kinda remind me of how PSX to DC ports lookedDat hole kreygasm
No but seriously, this looks very much like PS1 games but with far superior IQ.
IMO not bad for such an old hardware!
Aquamarine
Member
Sure. Give me a few hours.