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[ugoo18]

LOL HOW COULD BATMAN GET BACK INTO GOTHAM. HE'S JUST BATMAN.


This was the one that pissed me off the most from gaf when the movie came out and I didn't consider it a plot hole at all.

I saw that as Bruce Wayne using his resources around the world to get him back as quickly as possible and then sneaking into Gotham shouldn't be difficult for someone with the tech, intellect and physical abilities that Bruce Wayne has.

EDIT: The bridge part was stupid though.

Face-Off: This movie has so many plot holes.
* Face transplants occours in such a nice way that patients don't have scars or need any kind of teraphy. It's just like changing clothes.
* A super dangerous criminal is left alone in a room because he's in coma. In reallity that kind of criminals'd have survillance all the time.
* A single man (excuse me: Nicolas Cage) is able to defent/kill all the personal and destroy an entire gov facility that's so secret that nobody knows where it is or what they're doing.

Seriously this movie should have ended at the first 15 minutes.

I literally just watched this movie and was going to post about it lol.

Also this is pretty much Arnie/Stallone/90s action hero the thread

 

[richiek]

LOL HOW COULD BATMAN GET BACK INTO GOTHAM. HE'S JUST BATMAN.


This was the one that pissed me off the most from gaf when the movie came out and I didn't consider it a plot hole at all.

And the whole vandalizing the Brooklyn Bridge by lighting up the Batman logo was pointless and silly.

 

[alfredofroylan]

Face-Off: This movie has so many plot holes.
* Face transplants occours in such a nice way that patients don't have scars or need any kind of teraphy. It's just like changing clothes.
* A super dangerous criminal is left alone in a room because he's in coma. In reallity that kind of criminals'd have survillance all the time.
* A single man (excuse me: Nicolas Cage) is able to defent/kill all the personal and destroy an entire gov facility that's so secret that nobody knows where it is or what they're doing.

Seriously this movie should have ended at the first 15 minutes.

 

[DC R1D3R]

The Ten Commandments!

 

[IAmRandom31]

Batman Begins - The police would have been aware of Scarecrow's fear toxin well in advanced because random people would have been freaking out the moment they took a hot shower or boiled water.

The Dark Knight - Joker's attack on Dents convoy, capture, and escape require him to know and plan for things that he in no way can possibly anticipate.

Both of those are easily explained.

Batman Begins - the toxin doesn't activate until it is turned into a gas. just like they do in the temple. they burn the flower and it makes him hallucinate. But you can eat the flower all day if you want. They even talk about that in the movie. Weaponized aerosol hallucinagen or whatever they called it. Oh wait your right. Taking a hot shower produces steam, or boiling water. Yeeehhhhhh. Nm.

Dark Knight - he blocked off the road, forced them down into the tunnels, and was on communications with the others. They could of been watching the convoy go down, estimated the speeds, and planned accordingly.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Batman Begin - The stupid water evaporation machine at the end. It would have essentially killed everyone by taking out the water in people, which is majority of a person's make up.

 

[Slair]

Twister: Tying yourself with leather belts to a couple of pipes that are 15 feet into the ground will not prevent you from being sucked up by an F5 tornado that's right on top of you.

Adding on to this, the main woman's dad gets sucked out into the tornado from their bunker at the start because he's holding the door shut. If he just said fuck the door and went and stood beside his wife, daughter and dog he'd still be alive.

 

[ugoo18]

Man of Steel

Superman struggles to fly away from the black hole yet Lois can fall away from it with ease because.....?

As well as the infamous

Spoiler

Father death scene with the tornado

absolutely stupid in every way.

 

[Ultratech]

Independence Day.

A man made computer virus infects alien machines without them even knowing anything about them.

Heh, I had another one from that movie.

After the aliens attack and destroy LA, Will Smith's family pops out of the tunnel they were hiding in and the Palm Trees are still up and alive despite everything else pretty much devastated.

 

[manueldelalas]

Not a movie, but a book.

In the first (of 24) book of Tarzan, Tarzan of the apes, it is portrayed that Tarzan learns on his own to read and write (not to speak), because of the child books left by his parents.

When the white explorers come to the jungle, Tarzan decides to leave them a written message (nothing wrong with that), he even writes it with machine typography (because he never learned calligraphy), so nothing wrong there; but it goes all to shit when he signs it with his name.

He shouldn't be able to sign or write his name at this point, because it is a name given to him by a fucking ape in the ape language. It bothers me, someone else should have written to him his name the first time.

After the fourth book, all of Tarzan's timeline goes to shit though, and the author(s) keep forgetting important stuff that happened in previous books and it just doesn't matter anymore.

IMO, the only worth Tarzan books are 1-2 (one story in two books) and 4.

 

[Schweinehund]

Even if you forgo the fact that the timing of this thing is EXTREMELY comfortable, it's physically impossible for Batman to actually go out & buy the insane amounts of fuel, create the batsymbol in fuel, create a trail to where apparently Gordon will be for ome magical reason, have Gordon light it by accident and show the city the Bats has returned.

It would've been faster, easier, cheaper and more reliable to go buy a spotlight, mount it on a random building and shine a makeshift batsignal in the sky.

Batman is god of preptime. Prepared it in case he lost moral support of the city.

 

[Sephzilla]

Both of those are easily explained.

Batman Begins - the toxin doesn't activate until it is turned into a gas. just like they do in the temple. they burn the flower and it makes him hallucinate. But you can eat the flower all day if you want. They even talk about that in the movie. Weaponized aerosol hallucinagen or whatever they called it. Oh wait your right. Taking a hot shower produces steam, or boiling water. Yeeehhhhhh. Nm.

Dark Knight - he blocked off the road, forced them down into the tunnels, and was on communications with the others. They could of been watching the convoy go down, estimated the speeds, and planned accordingly.

Begins - The microwave emitter simply evaporates water turning it into vapor - aka the same thing that happens when you boil water.

Another Batman Begins issue - How come the microwave emitter doesn't immediately murder every human in vicinity of it? It's not like humans arent mostly water.

Even if you forgo the fact that the timing of this thing is EXTREMELY comfortable, it's physically impossible for Batman to actually go out & buy the insane amounts of fuel, create the batsymbol in fuel, create a trail to where apparently Gordon will be for ome magical reason, have Gordon light it by accident and show the city the Bats has returned.

It would've been faster, easier, cheaper and more reliable to go buy a spotlight, mount it on a random building and shine a makeshift batsignal in the sky.

Not to mention instead of using all that valuable time to find a nuclear bomb that's ticking its way to detonation, he spends it ripping off The Crow.

 

[Odoul]

Man of Steel

Superman struggles to fly away from the black hole yet Lois can fall away from it with ease because.....?

That's another curiosity.

I noticed it every time I saw it. I wonder if it was deliberate? Maybe it only effects Krypton matter?

They went out of their to animate Clark being surrounded by the same effect as the Phantom Zone while Lois was untouched.

 

[Ogni-XR21]

The entirety of Gravity.

For me one scene stood out. Right before Clooney is drifting of they grab onto something but tracktion keeps pulling them, but shouldn't they come to a complete stop without gravity?

The Dark Knight Rises: Even though the cops are trapped in the underground for months they don't grow beards. They all get out clean shaved.

 

[ruxtpin]

The Dark Knight Rises: Even though the cops are trapped in the underground for months they don't grow beards. They all get out clean shaved.

You don't walk around with a Gillette in your pocket? It's the best a man can get.

 

[ugoo18]

This is going to be a long one and might be a bit off topic to some but it annoyed me quite a bit and i feel it definitely breaks Looper.

The idea that Looper could be fixed by killing Sid.

Looper imo breaks under it's own rules by creating a multiverse paradox, which is further shown when the argument of Sid being killed to fix everything. An idea i definitely do not agree with that due to the paradoxes it creates as well as the ones that already existed.

There was already one opened up once Joe's older self traveled back. Him going back in time and altering events either will create multiple different outcomes or it will irrevocably alter 1 single timeline meaning only one path of events and your eternal loop should be possible.

Within the movie even though it occurs in a single timeline it utilizes multiple timelines to multiple universes, based on the memory explanation in the diner between young Joe and old Joe are attached strings of time and depending on what young Joe does some strings would fade and some would strengthen between him and his older self. Depending on how those strings fade and strengthen old Joe would be altered as a result. However due to this then old Joe technically should not have gone after Sid because his younger self as he grew emotionally attached to him chose not to kill Sid therefore old Joe should have come to the same conclusion as well.

Old Joe not doing that should then mean that the multiple timeline to multiple universes should be true then since he still intended to kill the kid (The movie even shows the entire alternate universe idea, Old Joe in his timeline kills his old self that is sent back in time and then lives out his life before heading back in time himself to kill Sid in order to save his future life). Also if the timeline was a single one in a single universe then when Seth's older self escaped he should have lost his limbs instantly due to the predetermined outcome of that timeline, losing body parts one at a time favors the multi-verse multi-timeline idea (Meaning that when he lost a limb or finger, an alternate Seth kept his limb or finger). Since old Seth when he escaped didn't lose limbs instantly that would suggest that he is an alternate Seth meaning he technically should not have lost any limbs at all instead another alternate universe Seth should have.

In regards to Sid we do not know what exactly set him off, even though young Joe thought it was the killing of his mother that would do it that might not necessarily be true. For that to be true that would mean that in old Joe's timeline Sid would have lost his mother as well at the hands of old Joe himself (Young Joe described it as a loop that involved his older self killing Sid which set Sid on the path to the rainmaker) but that would then mean that he would not have killed his older self meaning that the events of the movie also occurred in old Joe's original timeline. Since the rainmaker exists in old Joe's timeline then old Joe traveling back in time to kill the rainmaker as a child would mean that it was a set event that was destined to happen meaning that old Joe was never going to be able to kill Sid since young Joe was destined to stop him from doing it.

I've seen some people attempt to use the Back to the future description for solving Looper and that would be somewhat accurate if Looper exclusively used a single timeline however because old Joe did not disappear once young Joe changed slightly but instead morphed to incorporate the change. This would be because young Joe would already be changing and could not possibly develop into old Joe meaning that if it was a single timeline then old Joe should disappear at that instant but he did not, instead he only disappears when young Joe kills himself. This in turn means that old Joe should be from an alternate timeline and universe which then means that he should not have disappeared when young Joe killed himself or if he was from the same timeline and universe then like i said before he would not have killed Sid then since his younger self decided not to and his older self should reflect the changes of the younger self.

Killing Sid at the start would do literally nothing to old Joe's timeline due to that then, instead young Joe's timeline would be altered but old Joe's timeline would remain unchanged (If we are going by the multi-timeline multi-verse idea). If we are going by the single timeline single universe idea then killing Sid should be an eternal loop then.


Kill Sid
Kills Rainmaker
Old Joe never gets sent back
Sid in turn doesn't die
Rainmaker lives then
Old Joe gets sent back

 

[manueldelalas]

OK, the Ten Commandments commentaries need to stop, if you have an anti religion agenda, good for you, but you don't need to come and shit every thread on GAF, I hope this gets banned. There has not been no impossibility pointed that breaks that movie in it's own context.
/rant

I have one that really bothers me, Batman Begins.

The Batmobile can throw down a tree, pass through a reinforced concrete wall (which are typical offenders on a lot of movies) but has one of the most stupid scenes ever done in a movie; the batmobile enters a parking lot of a building and smashes through a lot of reinforced concrete pillars, like they were made of paper.

I literally burst out laughing at the stupid shit I was seeing, I'm a structural engineer, and this kind of stuff happens a lot in movies, but this was just too much stupidity. Great movie though.

Oh, and this month we will have the Lucy movie that unlocks the brain to function above the typical 10%, LOL.

 

[Drkirby]

Independence Day.

A man made computer virus infects alien machines without them even knowing anything about them.

I think the explanation for that one is Unix was simply stolen from the alien's technology.

 

[Stinkles]

Lack of butterfly effect in Edge of Tomorrow.

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

For me one scene stood out. Right before Clooney is drifting of they grab onto something but tracktion keeps pulling them, but shouldn't they come to a complete stop without gravity?

The Dark Knight Rises: Even though the cops are trapped in the underground for months they don't grow beards. They all get out clean shaved.

Yes. Just one of many examples.

Another big one that comes to mind is the ending.

Spoiler

There is no fucking way she wouldn't burn up upon reentry with the way the pod was launched.

 

[NekoFever]

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It's true, though. I hate how movies can't be slightly ambiguous without posts demanding explanations and incorrectly referring to them as plot holes. Use your imagination.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Eternal Sunshine:

No way this simple card to friends and family is actually effective.

 

[tokkun]

LOL HOW COULD BATMAN GET BACK INTO GOTHAM. HE'S JUST BATMAN.


This was the one that pissed me off the most from gaf when the movie came out and I didn't consider it a plot hole at all.

Here is the problem: The difficulty of evading the blockade was set up as a key plot point in the movie. So was Bruce Wayne being cut off from all of his resources as Batman. Yes, it is not impossible for him to overcome the blockade or regain access to his resources - he is a hero after all - but you have to show that stuff in the movie. It can't just happen off-screen with no explanation.

 

[Manu]

The Dark Knight

The Joker shows up at Bruce's party for Harvey Dent. The Joker drops Rachel off the window, Batman jumps to catch her. They fall on a car. "Are you okay?" "Yeah." End of scene.

What happened to all the people that were at the party? Batman left them alone with the fucking Joker. This is never explained or mentioned again.

Back to The Future

Marty goes back to the past and alters it. He returns to the present and his family are now totally different people. But, why were he and his brothers even born? His parents lived radically different lives than before, but they conceived all their children on the same days? What are the odds of that? "Oh, wait, we're supposed to conceive a child today, cancel my meeting."

 

[Halcyon]

Here is the problem: The difficulty of evading the blockade was set up as a key plot point in the movie. So was Bruce Wayne being cut off from all of his resources as Batman. Yes, it is not impossible for him to overcome the blockade or regain access to his resources - he is a hero after all - but you have to show that stuff in the movie. It can't just happen off-screen with no explanation.

This is why you are wrong.

 

[NekoFever]

Eternal Sunshine:

No way this simple card to friends and family is actually effective.

Also "erased from him memory". Grammar hole!

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Insert any time travel movie here. Really let's take Back to The Future as mentioned. Everything about all 3 of those movies is impossible. You create a paradox every damn time. Love them to death but yea not possible and never will be.

Won't stop me from wishing I knew a strange scientist with a Delorean time machine though. lol

 

[.GqueB.]

Lois watches Superman and Zod crash back to earth from a distance.

Seconds later she's running down the stairs of the station so she can be there to comfort him.

BULLSHIT!

 

[zeemumu]

OK, the Ten Commandments commentaries need to stop, if you have an anti religion agenda, good for you, but you don't need to come and shit every thread on GAF, I hope this gets banned. There has not been no impossibility pointed that breaks that movie in it's own context.
/rant

Yeah, the "lol religion" posts get really old really fast.

 

[Gustav]

Terminator 2 - There is no way John's motorcycle has more than 10 gears.

 

[TitusGroan]

The Two Towers: When Frodo and Sam got sidetracked in Osgiliath and attacked by the Nazgul, wouldn't the Ringwraiths have then told Sauron that the Ring was last seen in Osgiliath heading towards Mordor? Which makes the whole point about Sauron thinking Pippin has the Ring in ROTK somewhat confusing.

ROTK: Why would Sam just up and leave Frodo when

Spoiler

he knows Smeagol plans murder

?

 

[LanceVance]

Toy Story - Toys can't talk

 

[turtle553]

The Dark Knight Rises:

We're sorry Mister Wayne, but you're know bankrupt after the stock price of Wayne Enterprises dropped to zero. Never mind this happened right after armed terrorists attacked the stock exchange and multiple witnesses saw them connecting to the computer network. That was purely a coincidence.

Oh and by the way, the stock exchange always keeps a few dirt bikes on the trading floor just in case somebody needy to deliver a message really quickly.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

How did Bruce Wayne hitch a ride with the airplane smugglers in The Dark Knight without them figuring out that he's Batman?

They were Asian smugglers I think. So they wouldn't know or care about some urban legend in some city. And if you want to figure it out down to such detail, I guess Bruce would've given the banker a 'forget-it-all-kiss' to render him unconscious, take off his cowl, then climb up into the plane. After which, once they reached Gotham, he would parachute off with the banker in tow, land somewhere in the outskirts of the city, then have Alfred pick them up.

Even if you forgo the fact that the timing of this thing is EXTREMELY comfortable, it's physically impossible for Batman to actually go out & buy the insane amounts of fuel, create the batsymbol in fuel, create a trail to where apparently Gordon will be for ome magical reason, have Gordon light it by accident and show the city the Bats has returned.

It would've been faster, easier, cheaper and more reliable to go buy a spotlight, mount it on a random building and shine a makeshift batsignal in the sky.

I assume he would have fuel stored in his bat bunker for his vehicles. He could load up the Bat with a barrel of it, hover in mid-air at that building, then open his cockpit and proceed to paint a bat symbol. He probably needed a few trips to reload on fuel. It must have been fun.

 

[PhantomHound]

Weekend at Bernie's II.

First movie is about pretending a dead guy is alive, which is silly enough. The second movie involves a voodoo plot where Bernie is reanimated and people are turned into goats. What THE FUCK!?!?!?!?

Plot hole: "In Weekend at Bernie's one, Larry takes Bernie's watch and never puts it back on the body. In Weekend at Bernie's II, he gets the watch at the morgue after it's been taken off the body, and signs for it. How did the watch get back on the body?"

 

[Kinyou]

Even if you forgo the fact that the timing of this thing is EXTREMELY comfortable, it's physically impossible for Batman to actually go out & buy the insane amounts of fuel, create the batsymbol in fuel, create a trail to where apparently Gordon will be for ome magical reason, have Gordon light it by accident and show the city the Bats has returned.

It would've been faster, easier, cheaper and more reliable to go buy a spotlight, mount it on a random building and shine a makeshift batsignal in the sky.

Batman called in a favor with Superman who then painted the symbol in a nano second.

 

[zephervack]

The Dark Knight

Back to The Future

Marty goes back to the past and alters it. He returns to the present and his family are now totally different people. But, why were he and his brothers even born? His parents lived radically different lives than before, but they conceived all their children on the same days? What are the odds of that? "Oh, wait, we're supposed to conceive a child today, cancel my meeting."

Yeah dont even start with Back to the Future, its completely bonkers.

The scene where Doc explains how multiple timelines is the worse.

Also, Marty wouldnt even know his parents, they would be completely different people, he probably wouldnt have the same girlfriend, friends, everything he knows and loves would be altered.

 

[Halcyon]

Who cares because entering peoples dreams with wires is not possible to begin with.



I guess I'm in the "I dislike people that focus on plot holes" group. I'm fine with people recognizing them, but then discussing them as if you are now some arbiter of intelligence and writing just makes me want to punch a baby.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Alien 3:

There's no way that egg is on that ship in that location. There's no way the Queen lays it where it is without anyone noticing either during the escape from LV 426, or after they've defeated the queen in ALIENS.

It absolutely could not have happened.

 

[richardhawk]

Toy Story - Toys can't talk

Cars- Cars can't talk.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

The Dark Knight

The Joker shows up at Bruce's party for Harvey Dent. The Joker drops Rachel off the window, Batman jumps to catch her. They fall on a car. "Are you okay?" "Yeah." End of scene.

What happened to all the people that were at the party? Batman left them alone with the fucking Joker. This is never explained or mentioned again.

On top of this, how did Batman even save her? It's not like he caught her and then they glided to safety. No, they still both fell the entire height of a building... and somehow survived.

I love TDK, but that was such a stupid scene.

 

[PhantomHound]

Cars- Cars can't talk.

"If humans don't exist in this universe, then why do all the vehicles have seats in them? And why do some have gear sticks?"

 

[Halcyon]

On top of this, how did Batman even save her? It's not like he caught her and then they glided to safety. No, they still both fell the entire height of a building... and somehow survived.

I love TDK, but that was such a stupid scene.

He uses half his cape as a glider that slows them enough to land safely. They sorta corkscrew down.

 

[Frustrated_Grunt]

Gremlins - It's always after midnight.

 

[RedShift]

For me one scene stood out. Right before Clooney is drifting of they grab onto something but tracktion keeps pulling them, but shouldn't they come to a complete stop without gravity?

The Dark Knight Rises: Even though the cops are trapped in the underground for months they don't grow beards. They all get out clean shaved.

Apparently if you look a the background you can see it's rotating, basically the cable is swinging like a pendulum and when he lets go he gets flung out.

But yeah that movie had a lot of problems with orbital mechanics. They admitted they just couldn't be assed to explain how orbital rendezvous works I think.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Gremlins - It's always after midnight.

Hell the whole premise is screwed. Fun but screwed. Ok you have Gizmo which is this lovable little guy yet every goddamn fur ball released from his body when wet are fucking assholes. How the hell is that possible?

 

[tokkun]

This is why you are wrong.

How about some explanation of your opinion?

Look, would you accept it if Bane had been defeated off screen? Or Batman had flown away with the bomb off screen? I'm guessing probably not, because those things were set up as the key challenges in the plot. It would feel bizarre if they happened off screen, even though they are clearly things that Batman could do (and did).

 

[Anoregon]

Gremlins - It's always after midnight.

Hahah yeah I was wondered about that. When does "after midnight" end? Sunrise? The beginning of the work day?

 

[Halcyon]

How about some explanation of your opinion?

Look, would you accept it if Bane had been defeated off screen? Or Batman had flown away with the bomb off screen? I'm guessing probably not, because those things were set up as the key challenges in the plot. It would feel bizarre if they happened off screen, even though they are clearly things that Batman could do (and did).

I don't have to explain it. I disagree that it needed to be shown that batman can get back into gotham. I feel your opinion is wrong. The director and editors agree with me.

 

[Liamario]

LOL HOW COULD BATMAN GET BACK INTO GOTHAM. HE'S JUST BATMAN.


This was the one that pissed me off the most from gaf when the movie came out and I didn't consider it a plot hole at all.

This wasn't a plothole, it was because of the lack of explanation with how quickly he returned that I took issue. That movie really should have been two parts.