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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.

mike4001_

Member
I thought they were considering the subscription model. Like Netflix. I would be all over that after looking if the game catalogue is worth it. I know i left my ps3 with unfinished titles i would like to back to.

With the current price structure I don´t wanna know what they would charge for a subscription ... ;-)
 

jholmes

Member
You can blame Sony for PS Now price for God of War (for example) not for FIFA 10.

So, if this were really truly only in the hands of the publishers, you wouldn't see these prices all syncing up so closely. Sony has clearly set the bar for where it thinks the market should be, and the other companies are following suit. Either Sony is guiding the market, or everyone else is colluding.
 

glottis8

Banned
With the current price structure I don´t wanna know what they would charge for a subscription ... ;-)

can't be more than 10 to 15 bucks a month. Anything else forget it. Unless they come with some sort of annual bundle that makes it worthwhile. Like Amazon Prime?
 

Das_Blarthole

Neo Member
So, if this were really truly only in the hands of the publishers, you wouldn't see these prices all syncing up so closely. Sony has clearly set the bar for where it thinks the market should be, and the other companies are following suit. Either Sony is guiding the market, or everyone else is colluding.

Sony will be providing price 'bands' and the publishers will choose which band each of their games goes in - both MS and Sony both do similar things with full game digital prices
 

mike4001_

Member
can't be more than 10 to 15 bucks a month. Anything else forget it. Unless they come with some sort of annual bundle that makes it worthwhile. Like Amazon Prime?

When the highest renting price is $ 19,99 for one game.

How can they are 10 to 15 $ ? for all games (even if they let you only play 2/3/4 per month).

Has to be higher than that.
 

Das_Blarthole

Neo Member
When the highest renting price is $ 19,99 for one game.

How can they are 10 to 15 $ ? for all games (even if they let you only play 2/3/4 per month).

Has to be higher than that.

Because it'll be a subscription so they'll take 10 - 15 regardless of whether you use it or not
 
It isn't similar at all.

Even if you want to ignore the selection, the distribution and therefore the costs are different because the services are different.

The EA agreement allows you download and play those games from the library. PSnow is a streaming service. The cost to maintain a streaming product is higher because the end user is not downloading any extra files nor are they actually processing the game content. That takes hardware on the service provider end to take care of while EA doesn't have to worry about an issue like that.

Another point in how they are "not" similar is that even in Beta PSnow works across multiple devices. EA Access currently does not. So in terms of how the services work themselves and the actual target audience, they are different and trying to compare the two is making a very large leap completely ignoring the technical differences between the two. Also if the publishers are setting the prices for specific titles then there is nothing Sony can really do about that.

Edit: Unless I am missing something but the wording on EA states downloading not streaming.

http://www.ea.com/eaaccess/faq.html




Thanks I just caught that.

You should just edit the whole post. Your edit at the bottom may get some flames coming your way. You download the entire game and you can play it as long as you are subscribed. When your sub goes away so does your license to play it.
 

Das_Blarthole

Neo Member
The subscription pricing will be tiered. Absolutely no way the entire library will be available for $15.

It could be, but the thing is the more people subscribe the more you don't just work on what your usage is, but everyones, so if your high usage, but there's three other people that have subs but don't hammer the system as much as you do, the average usage across all of you is lower, but the price each of you pay is the same.

That being said, I imagine that they'll have a premium 'everything' sub and another that might be 10 rentals a month for $15 or something like that. But it's still up in the air as to what they actually will charge and provide on release.
 

Amir0x

Banned
A $20 rental won't be successful in any sense, so the market will probably quickly show it's pointless to price games at that on such a service.
 
These fucking prices.

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glottis8

Banned
Wel. i think you can rent from the red box for ful day and very cheap. i dunn think its a dollar. so why wouldn't a low price work?
 
Wel. i think you can rent from the red box for ful day and very cheap. i dunn think its a dollar. so why wouldn't a low price work?

Redbook is $2 a day, they have very limited selections and you have to own the console hardware in question. Every PS Now option other than 4 hours is cheaper than the same term from Red Box.
 
So the more you pay the more access to other games? that would be kinda broken.

How so? Not everyone will want to pay a (higher) set amount to access everything.

That being said, I imagine that they'll have a premium 'everything' sub and another that might be 10 rentals a month for $15 or something like that. But it's still up in the air as to what they actually will charge and provide on release.

Agree. I think it will something like:

$10 - Rental 5 games
£15 - Rental of 10
$30 - Unlimited
 

glottis8

Banned
How so? Not everyone will want to pay a (higher) set amount to access everything.



Agree. I think it will something like:

$10 - Rental 5 games
£15 - Rental of 10
$30 - Unlimited

I mean like the 10 dlls tier only has access to certain games. 15 has acess to some more games. 30 has access to all games.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
The only satisfying thing for me, like many mentionned, would let me stream all the games I own digitally for a fixed fee for the month. That way I wouldn't feel gouged amd Sony woukd get paid for the actual service provided.

There is no way in hell that I'm renting games.
 

The Lamp

Member
A $20 rental won't be successful in any sense, so the market will probably quickly show it's pointless to price games at that on such a service.

I just don't understand. The rental is for a month right? Plenty of people buy games new and trade back after beating it and end up spending more than that. People spend $12 at the movies for 2 hours of entertainment. In theory, the price isn't bad.

But I still don't feel like paying it and neither do others, I guess.
 
Am I the only one that thinks that 8 dollars for 30 days is actually kind of a sweet spot? Blockbuster used to charge 7 for 3 days.

Yup.

In all actuality, I don't think these prices are that bad, at least to me. Sure, some of those are inflated to fuck and back, but most of them are jussssttt right.

Like Stranger's Wrath. Five fucking bucks for a whole week? That's amazing.

The four hour ones are silly, but I'm okay with most of the prices. I don't intend to own these games, and it's perfect for that very reason - being a rental. And that's exactly what this system is.
 
Am I the only one that thinks that 8 dollars for 30 days is actually kind of a sweet spot? Blockbuster used to charge 7 for 3 days.

No, the 7 and 30 day prices are almost universally a great value. People are just wilfully ignoring that and focusing on corner cases no one is being forced to engage with.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
Am I the only one that thinks that 8 dollars for 30 days is actually kind of a sweet spot? Blockbuster used to charge 7 for 3 days.

The market has changed. I would never rent a movie nowadays either. For the cost of ONE movie rental back in the day you now have access to the WHOLE netflix catalog, with no time limit nor late fees.
 
I mean like the 10 dlls tier only has access to certain games. 15 has acess to some more games. 30 has access to all games.

I think it would be hard to categorise games into tiers unless you did it by release date or something. You couldn't do it based on 'how good' they are perceived, that wouldn't be fair.
 

SerTapTap

Member
Am I the only one that thinks that 8 dollars for 30 days is actually kind of a sweet spot? Blockbuster used to charge 7 for 3 days.

People are ignoring the cheaper games and focusing on the $50 for 90 days ones. Most of the prices I saw seemed sane, Sony should have just said fuck off to F1, that one game is making them look really bad.

Pixeljunk Shooter is $8 for 90 days, that's more than enough time to fully enjoy the game (which is $10 normally), and the game itself is easily worth $8 IMO. If you don't have a PS3...and...Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate didn't exist, it would be a suitable way to experience a great game.
 
Yup.

In all actuality, I don't think these prices are that bad, at least to me. Sure, some of those are inflated to fuck and back, but most of them are jussssttt right.

Like Stranger's Wrath. Five fucking bucks for a whole week? That's amazing.

The four hour ones are silly, but I'm okay with most of the prices. I don't intend to own these games, and it's perfect for that very reason - being a rental. And that's exactly what this system is.

No, the 7 and 30 day prices are almost universally a great value. People are just wilfully ignoring that and focusing on corner cases no one is being forced to engage with.

Yeah the four hour rentals are ridiculous. I have no idea why Sony even has that as an option, it's just bad PR. Who is that targeting?

The market has changed. I would never rent a movie nowadays either. For the cost of ONE movie rental back in the day you now have access to the WHOLE netflix catalog, with no time limit nor late fees.

Dude, Netflix is not a great model - their continuous content removal and intentional limitation of their selection has started to really piss me off. I'd gladly pay 2 or 3 times more for a service where they give me access to (up to a certain point in the past) all movies with no removal, only addition. That's the service we thought we were getting with Netflix, and it's the service that will eventually replace them.
 

jimi_dini

Member
you have to factor that cost into this. being able to play these games without needing the hardware has at least some value

So let's factor in the cost of a PS4, right?
And you need a pretty good internet connection as well. So let's add that in as well.

and people were complaining about Nintendo's Virtual Console prices. hah
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Am I the only one that thinks that 8 dollars for 30 days is actually kind of a sweet spot? Blockbuster used to charge 7 for 3 days.

Is it available on all games? Or most? Because that price is great.

Hopefully any revisions to appease outrage around the shorter rental periods doesn't see that option change.
 
Yeah the four hour rentals are ridiculous. I have no idea why Sony even has that as an option, it's just bad PR. Who is that targeting?

To be fair, it does have its usage in a few forms.

For example, for those who want an immediate taste of gameplay to see if they want to commit to a longer time, then it's not the worst thing in the world. I'd prefer a demo of sorts instead, but these prices range in such a quality gap that I assume this is to cover all bases, not just for us.

Besides, it's an option, and while it's not the best one, it still exists as such and can't really fault them for attempting when the other pieces are so damn tasty.
 

sajj316

Member
I'm sure this has been brought up but aren't the publishers defining these prices or a major factor to pricing. I'm sure Sony is responsible for the governance and messaging but ultimately it is the publishers discretion, right? I assume the publishers will pay a hosting fee for Sony to distribute on the PS Now framework. If the case, it does show you how disconnected the publishers and Sony are with digital trends.
 

BadWolf

Member
I'm sure this has been brought up but aren't the publishers defining these prices or a major factor to pricing. I'm sure Sony is responsible for the governance and messaging but ultimately it is the publishers discretion, right? I assume the publishers will pay a hosting fee for Sony to distribute on the PS Now framework. If the case, it does show you how disconnected the publishers and Sony are with digital trends.

Its a brand new service, you can't expect them to nail it from day 1.

It took them a while to make PS+ as good as it is today.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
Yeah the four hour rentals are ridiculous. I have no idea why Sony even has that as an option, it's just bad PR. Who is that targeting?



Dude, Netflix is not a great model - their continuous content removal and intentional limitation of their selection has started to really piss me off. I'd gladly pay 2 or 3 times more for a service where they give me access to (up to a certain point in the past) all movies with no removal, only addition. That's the service we thought we were getting with Netflix, and it's the service that will eventually replace them.

And you think that the PSNow service will always have every game in its catalog? Games being removed from the PSN store happens (irem).
 

Dunlop

Member
Its a brand new service, you can't expect them to nail it from day 1.

It took them a while to make PS+ as good as it is today.

There are multiple threads on PS Now since it went to Open Beta

I don't recall a single post of anyone being excited after using the service.
 

BadWolf

Member
There are multiple threads on PS Now since it went to Open Beta

I don't recall a single post of anyone being excited after using the service.

Huh? There are lots of positive impressions from GAFers who have used the service on how well it works.

All the negativity is towards the pricing.
 
There are multiple threads on PS Now since it went to Open Beta

I don't recall a single post of anyone being excited after using the service.

There have been several threads from people expressing excitement, including one from today comparing it to PS5.
 

elty

Member
I bought my Watch_Dogs for $40. After tax it became $45. After finishing it I sold it for $30.

So my net cost is $15 for about 3 weeks I spent on the game. I wouldn't mind spending that much money on rentals for games < 20 hours. However, I would prefer to have a non stream option where you can download the game and play it for like 1 month for $15 at the time of release.

Edit: how come there is no impression of any kind yet? NDA?
 
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