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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.

dcelw540

Junior Member
Can people who tried it I have a few questions:
1) can you play online? I want to try twisted metal but I hear the muiltplayer is the best part.
2) when looking on your profile does it show you playing the game and on ps3? I always wondered what is shows when your friends look at your profile.
 

Kodros

Member
They don't need a 4 hour price point to make the 30-day option look good. PS Now is not operating in a complete vacuum. There are other ways to rent games. Regardless of the PS4's inability to play PS3 games natively, people can see the rental options and compare.

Their pricing for PS Now has the same problem as their movie rental service. Prices are totally out of whack with what you can go out and rent yourself. $4 or $5 for an HD movie when you can rent the Blu-Ray for <$2/night at Redbox or Family Video or wherever.

The prices aren't out of whack. Almost all if the games on psnow are $8-$12 for 30 days. Where else are you getting that price?
 

nubbe

Member
They don't need a 4 hour price point to make the 30-day option look good. PS Now is not operating in a complete vacuum. There are other ways to rent games. Regardless of the PS4's inability to play PS3 games natively, people can see the rental options and compare.

Their pricing for PS Now has the same problem as their movie rental service. Prices are totally out of whack with what you can go out and rent yourself. $4 or $5 for an HD movie when you can rent the Blu-Ray for <$2/night at Redbox or Family Video or wherever.

EA isn't allowed offer their service
Going forward, this will be the easiest way to play legacy games
Convenience always wins
It is a vacuum
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Does anyone knows how this technology actually works?

Does Sony operate a number of PS3s with different games somewhere then hook it to a streaming server for everybody?

They've apparently created specialised servers with the guts of 8 PS3s per standard rack unit. I guess these operate with a modified OS that uses shared storage over the network, that read and write games and save states.

I'm curious what happens when you stop using a game and come back to it later. Is it as if you left the console running, and are brought back to the point to you left it at, exactly? Or do you manually save the game and then reload your game save or...?
 
Can people who tried it I have a few questions:
1) can you play online? I want to try twisted metal but I hear the muiltplayer is the best part.
2) when looking on your profile does it show you playing the game and on ps3? I always wondered what is shows when your friends look at your profile.

I would also like to know this too.
 

chogidogs

Member
Yeah, any feedback on online play? Server to client performance seems impressive but curious to know how MP server to PS now server to client stacks up.
 

coastel

Member
Such a shit way to start something off that could be potentialy industry changing. Give us a fair monthly subscription rate for multiple titles like the way the film rentals are. $20 should be how much you pay for newish game not fucking rental games, I dont care how long its for. Maybe im a bit harsh and it could be individual publishers who ultimtely decide.

Surely they can give us a good back log for old ps games that are not even for sale any more for a good monthly price, its basicalaly printing money you never had due to not selling them on ps+ or whatever anyway.
 
They've apparently created specialised servers with the guts of 8 PS3s per standard rack unit. I guess these operate with a modified OS that uses shared storage over the network, that read and write games and save states.

I'm curious what happens when you stop using a game and come back to it later. Is it as if you left the console running, and are brought back to the point to you left it at, exactly? Or do you manually save the game and then reload your game save or...?

I'd imagine your save gets sent to a cloud and stays there until it's needed again. Or that's what I'd assume.

I've been in since closed Beta and I've only tried a handful of games. They were all free at the time so pricing didn't matter. As a whole, the service does work. Great might be a bit of an exaggeration, but serviceable. I started a game a Strangers Wrath and the input lag made it almost unplayable for me. But I'm a bit of a PC snob so framerate and input are what I'm most sensitive to. I think the service, in the state in which I played is best suited for turn-based RPGs and Adventure type games. Everything else will be a sub-par experience IMO.

Edit: I should add that the app itself told me I have an optimum amount of bandwidth(60/15)too so it's not like that was a major factor on performance.
 

NoTacos

Member
I checked out the service yesterday (didn't rent anything though) the $2.99 price point was ridiculous lol. If they had a bigger selection of games I might have gone for it, but right now i doesn't really seem worthy of a $50 a year subscription plus pricing options for each title.
 

chogidogs

Member
I've been in since closed Beta and I've only tried a handful of games. They were all free at the time so pricing didn't matter. As a whole, the service does work. Great might be a bit of an exaggeration, but serviceable. I started a game a Strangers Wrath and the input lag made it almost unplayable for me.

Mind sharing what kind of upload/download speed you are getting? Kinda want to know if my ISP is up to the task before doing anything.

Edit: saw your update. Thanks.
 
I'm curious what happens when you stop using a game and come back to it later. Is it as if you left the console running, and are brought back to the point to you left it at, exactly? Or do you manually save the game and then reload your game save or...?

I recall reading that the save is stored manually and when you 'resume' the game it uses that save. The amount of resources required to hold the game in memory would be way too high.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
I recall reading that the save is stored manually and when you 'resume' the game it uses that save. The amount of resources required to hold the game in memory would be way too high.

True, but if they could write out the system/RAM state to the HDD and restore from the HDD it might be faster/more convenient for the user. I think it would be nice to be able to hop between states. I vaguely recall some of their patents being around that kind of thing, but maybe it actually works out slower or maybe it's just not ready yet.
 

tanod

when is my burrito
Pretty sure those movie prices are in line with what you'll find on other video services.

Sure and they're overpriced there too. They probably seem more economically to people who live in cities or don't otherwise have a good local rental option. Neither of which is an issue for me.

The prices aren't out of whack. Almost all if the games on psnow are $8-$12 for 30 days. Where else are you getting that price?

1) If I'm not sure about a game, I'm not about to spend $8-$12 renting it right off the bat.

2) The shorter duration option should be priced in line with the 30-day price which is a good price, IF you already know you're going to enjoy the game to play it longer than a couple hours or days.

EA isn't allowed offer their service
Going forward, this will be the easiest way to play legacy games
Convenience always wins
It is a vacuum

EA legacy games aren't going to be worth playing when new versions are coming out every year. I'm not a sports / multiplayer gamer so I could be wrong. Either way, I think you are invalidating your first point with your 2nd.

Convenience wins when it's priced appropriately.

It's not a vacuum. PS now is a means to play PS3 games. There are numerous options to buy or rent PS3 games.
 
True, but if they could write out the system/RAM state to the HDD and restore from the HDD it might be faster/more convenient for the user. I think it would be nice to be able to hop between states. I vaguely recall some of their patents being around that kind of thing, but maybe it actually works out slower or maybe it's just not ready yet.

Very true, virtual servers can be paused and the ram state is transferred to HDD. That would require a ton of physical storage though if they allowed the game to be paused across sessions. It's more likely if they went this route it would remain 'alive' for the length of that session (until the account has logged out).
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I rented Way of the Samurai. What a mistake. First, the game ran and looked like shit to begin with. So now I can't tell how PS Now is running it.

Anyway it plays fine. Or like shit. Which I guess is accurate.
 
i rented twisted metal on psnow for 4 hours.. i came away seriously impressed with everything other then the pricing which has been discussed to death so wont get into it

impressions:
game took a second to do a connection test which passed. I have 28 down/1.5 up to the house and am wired into my router. after which you have the option to start the game instantly (i did). took about a min or two to get going, after that it was just like running a ps3 game locally

i didnt try online, played about 4 - 5 single player races and everything ran great. no hitching, no visible compression that i could see, no input lag that i could tell. honestly if you gave me the "pepsi challenge" i wouldn't have known that it was streaming, i would have just assumed it was a ps3 game being run locally through an emulator or something.

after a few rounds i quit out as i was really just trying it out of curiosity, theres now a twisted metal shortcut on my ps4s menu so i can hop right into a stream (i guess this goes away after... 3 hours or so from now)

all in all it was a pretty cool feeling playing it, though as i have a ps3 slim that works great and over 50 games i dont see myself using this any time in the near future. cool for people that do not however and really impressed with the performance
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
I rented Way of the Samurai. What a mistake. First, the game ran and looked like shit to begin with. So now I can't tell how PS Now is running it.

Anyway it plays fine. Or like shit. Which I guess is accurate.

How's the lag?

Played Catherine. Forgot I was streaming it.

Also, I hate the game. The puzzle part aggravates me.
 
Quoting myself from the other thread.

Surprised more people are not trying this.

I am on wireless on a 10mb line and it is working fine, very impressed but I do feel a slight input lag. I am in Costa Rica though, so I am actually impressed I can play a game in a stream. It is very playable but I think I would stick to my PS3 and get a cheap copy of a game I want if possible. Even with that said I guess it is cool to have this option, I tried KZ 3 because it is an action game so I wanted to check a fast paced game. The game looks really nice.

I hope the slight input lag is sorted out, I cannot test using a cable connection right now because the PS4 is far away from the router. Will try to get a long cable I have sitting somewhere and try it to check if it improves.

Overall, this tech is promising, I was skeptical at Sony for pulling this, but I think they will deliver.

I got 2 errors today after completing a mission, pretty infuriating! Had to do them again, and having rented KZ3 just for 4 hours that sucks.

I am liking KZ3 so far, looks really good, I might grab it for my PS3, pretty cheap right now along with Resistance 3. Or might just finish it on PS Now.
 
Haven't signed on to PS Now since the original Beta release. But seems a good collection of games has been added. Some of the game prices seem ridiculous. Noticed Zone of Enders hd collection is up. 24 dollars for 90 days I believe was the price, seems some what reasonable. I've never played it before so think I might rent it tomorrow.

Would love to see kingdom hearts hd collection appear
 

Ocaso

Member
Noticed Zone of Enders hd collection is up. 24 dollars for 90 days I believe was the price, seems some what reasonable. I've never played it before so think I might rent it tomorrow.

You can but the game for far less than that!

These prices are simply not reasonable given how much these games currently retail for. I'm dying to try image service, but I can't bring myself to spend what Sony's asking for in good faith knowing there are many other more reasonable ways to spend my gaming dollars.
 
You can but the game for far less than that!

These prices are simply not reasonable given how much these games currently retail for. I'm dying to try image service, but I can't bring myself to spend what Sony's asking for in good faith knowing there are many other more reasonable ways to spend my gaming dollars.
Very true. But I'm solely a ps4 owner and didn't own a ps3 for long last gen. Missed out on a ton of ps3 games, so ps now does appeal to me. But I do wish the prices would be more reasonable for certain games.
 

icespide

Banned
You can but the game for far less than that!

These prices are simply not reasonable given how much these games currently retail for. I'm dying to try image service, but I can't bring myself to spend what Sony's asking for in good faith knowing there are many other more reasonable ways to spend my gaming dollars.

maybe that person doesn't have a PS3? if that's the case then $24 is way cheaper than price of a PS3 + game
 
I hope nobody uses this service so Sony has to adjust the prices.

Sorry. I never beat Warhammer 40k...HATED the DS3 and I can now beat the game on my PS4 for $12.


This service rocks.

People are complaining about prices? I thought most gamers this generation could afford to own both current gen consoles so everybody apparently has money to burn anyway.
 
Pricing structure is a joke.

Make it a part of the PS Plus service and I guarantee a good portion of those who sign up for PS Plus will add it on. As it stands now, who is this for? Who is really going to pay for a short rental?

I'm paying $12 to beat Warhammer 40k on my PS4. What the heck don't you get?

So I can play these ps3 games on my ps4?

Bingo. Gaming options on the PS4 have now increased.

I have Destiny and CounterSpy preordered. I'm going to preorder Madden tomorrow.

The PS4 natively doesn't have anything else I want to purchase until Destiny comes out, but I'll rent Space Marine 40k for 30 days...

Warhammer 40k ....$12 for 30 days
Resident Evil 5 gold...$7 for a week rental

I got no complaints.
 
I see them dropping the rental setup sooner than later. It's part of them testing the waters with their servers and what people are willing to pay. By the Christmas season, they'll introduce the subscription model. This will especially help offset the lack of any big exclusive games this year (seems like everything has been delayed to 2015).
 

bobawesome

Member
$20 isn't a bank-breaking amount to me as it seems to be with others in this thread. Let's just relax. Sony isn't saying you can rent Legasista for $20 for a weekend.
 
Oh god. Space marine is making me use L1, R1 to shoot.

Just when I get out they pull me right back in. :(

Game is playable...but I think the PS4 has spoiled me graphically.
 
Oh god. Space marine is making me use L1, R1 to shoot.

Just when I get out they pull me right back in. :(

Game is playable...but I think the PS4 has spoiled me graphically.

it's what a lot of devs did back during the PS3 days due to the fact that L2/R2 were mushy, slippery garbage on the dual shock 3.

sucks, but that's what devs did to make it work.
 
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