scoobs
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Well it did sell 80 million units.... those numbers didn't just happen magically.
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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]
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Well it did sell 80 million units.... those numbers didn't just happen magically.
theprodigy
Member
where's the updated GC/DC/WIU graph
....does the Wii U have anything besides Hyrule Warriors coming out next month?
....does the Wii U have anything besides Hyrule Warriors coming out next month?
Mass Effect
Member
It's not closing the gap. In order to do that, the Xbone would have to outsell the PS4, which it hasn't done since December.
There is little indication that the Xbone will outsell the PS4 this holiday. It has a chance during November at least, but it's still no guarantee.
You can drop the persecution complex.
And the bolded makes no sense. That might be the case 5 years from now, but we'll still be in the first year for both consoles. We are nowhere near saturation point for either, especially the PS4.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I'm assuming MK8's LTD so far is still higher than Double Dash's though right? I really do think the install base has to increase more to support Mario Kart's usual consistent sales. If I'm not mistaken, the GC had sold close to 4M by this point right? What was Double Dash's attach rate for example on the GC? If anything, August was the absolute worst month to buy a Wii U. The MK8 deals (and the MK8 bundle) just ended in July, and new bundles started arriving this month (3DWorld/Nintendo Land one and MK8/Nintendo Land one). So the hardware sales (especially with no games) being bad isn't too surprising (I was so pessimistic I predicted 45K).
Also how did the crossover compare to the Vita?
Disney Infinity 2.0 the previous week.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Disney Infinity: Marvel Super Heroes
SwiftDeath
Member
Yeah I didn't mean to include Wii U. Smash and Mario Kart will be the strongest influences this holiday I bet
Yeah no unless you're not including bundled sales and then still no
Tearaway level bad is awfulohmygodlet'sneveractuallytalkaboutnumbersplease bad
SO bundled OR SO Retail Standalone will sell much much better than Tearaway in the US
Some third party games I think.
Someone posted them eariler.
Skylanders or Infinity or something.
It's a shame about Mario Kart 8. Although while I enjoy the game a lot, it is very bare bones. There is hardly any different modes for both single player and online/multiplayer and the ranking system is a bunch of balls. 
MK8 needed a lot more content. And I'm not talking more tracks/karts.
MK8 needed a lot more content. And I'm not talking more tracks/karts.
Holographix
Banned
Xbox One hasn't closed a gap since last November.
Nah it would do much than that.
Wait, what!? This has to be a joke post, right? Where are the cameras?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Is different, if there's a year where we can see that last-gen transition to next-gen sales is this year. Last year you could get the last AC and CoD in last-gen consoles, there wasn't a need to "upgrade". You want to play the last AC and CoD (and eventually only next-gen releases)? Is time to get a a new console.
That's something bound to have an effect, how big? yet to see.
Aquamarine
Member
No. Double Dash sold 1.445 million in the equivalent period.
Attach Rate should be 21% for Double Dash...I agree, the Wii U's low installbase is definitely a problem.
But still...I expected more out of it given MK Wii and MK7.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Where's the joke? The PS4's current sales are mediocre. Ho hum. Lackluster.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Its all no guarantee, just like it wont outsell it. Theres no guarantee.. just speculating like the rest of you guys.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I don't think anyone expects this gen to last 8 years though.
Mass Effect
Member
oh wait, that's not the post I thought it was.
theprodigy
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Randolph Freelander
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eddfromtheriver
Banned
Yuss.
SwiftDeath
Member
Actually pretty sure he's being serious as its a rational position to take
It'll sell better on PS4, right?!? Right? Eventually people have to buy the game.......
I actually found Tearaway to be boring on Vita.
Mass Effect
Member
I wasn't paying attention. I thought he quoted that Nintendo post Ani made earlier.
But I do actually agree with what he said.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
sörine;129612176 said:
And this month add
Deluxe 32GB with Mario Kart 8 & Nintendo Land (Walmart exclusive) (fall 2014)
Deluxe 32GB with Super Mario 3D World & Nintendo Land (fall 2014)
The gap isn't that large considering the grand scheme of things. In June, the PS4 and XO gap was only around 475,000. This month it is only 30,000, which isn't huge. The gulf between both consoles isn't Mount Everest.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/07/18/npd-hardware-sales-numbers-leak-for-june-2014/
it happened largely thanks to europe and other regions, as it didn't do half that in the us and japan combined. japan is essentially a non-factor now in the console realm, and the xbox one is doing seemingly pretty bad in parts of europe. so maybe it'll do about 14m a year spread out across mostly europe. i just don't know what would make sales in the us suddenly double year over year and more to make up for the gap.
that's just one console manufacturer though, and that's getting them to last gen sales in slightly faster time, which is fair to a market leader but unfair to any one company. even if you want to say the xbox one is the only other platform that matters right now, it's looking to massively underperform the 360, and that's a big problem.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
And here comes another NOVEMBER.
Im not sure whats the point of telling me when was the last time it closed a gap instead of talking about the possibility that it may close the gap. The failure to look at these things objectively is hurting in here. MS lineup of games this holiday is hands down (I dont care if they appeal to you or not) better than what sony has. Its not that hard to look from this point of view.
gundamkyoukai
Member
For this month yes, overall not yet .
As for this gen we are going to get a contraction not only because of the wii but also less people buying 2 systems.
SwiftDeath
Member
The current LTD gap between PS4 and XB1 is ~ 743k or the PS4 has about a 23% lead in install base over XB1.
Next month is September....
I've never tried it, but despite all the praise I never "got" it. I have plenty of times been able to buy it, but never pulled the trigger because no part of me wanted it or understood why it would be a fun game. I understand some really loved it though and it was nice to show off a unique Vita game
So then when is a good time period to finally judge?
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Well ok, i predict less than 120k standalone for October, i'm Nostradamus.
But you did say it's closing gap, that it really hasn't. That doesn't sound objective at all either.
Mass Effect
Member
You can speculate without making ridiculous statements, such as the one everyone quoted.
Irony.
I've never tried it, but despite all the praise I never "got" it. I have plenty of times been able to buy it, but never pulled the trigger because no part of me wanted it or understood why it would be a fun game. I understand some really loved it though and it was nice to show off a unique Vita game
It does do some cool things with the rear touch-pad and touch-screen. I couldn't find the appeal of the game no matter how much I played it. Lacked charm to me. I waited and bought it when it was really cheap.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
There's a factor to consider here, US was MS reign, they were (after Wii's premature death and Wii U failure) the king of consoles in US.
The surprising thing is not the margin (which is growing month after month, with possibly being considerably larger after next month), is the fact PS4 is having a gap over Xbone. And that the gap, even with MS efforts (lower price, NFL deal, etc...) is still growing.
Nightengale
Member
What the hell are you talking about?
The 475k gap is YTD June, not one month sales gap.
SwiftDeath
Member
The 476,000 number in that article is difference of the 2014 YTD between PS4 and XB1, not LTD difference
A rational person is constantly adjusting their perception of the world based on new data so always
That's far more reasonable but still likely quite low
A rational person is constantly adjusting their perception of the world based on new data so always
That's far more reasonable but still likely quite low
theprodigy
Member
whoa and I thought Microsoft was throwing out bundles like crazy
Shmuely Bully
Member
Closer in absolute terms, not in proportional ones. Sales of everything have dropped during the summer so of course it'll be closer if you just say 190-160=30, but if you compare it to say..February or March numbers as a percentage the gap has barely closed if it has at all.
If PS4 has outsold XBOne every month how comes the gap is narrowing?
Maybe I misunderstood you.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Closing the gap between monthly sales yea it is. I already said not overall. Regardless of last month or this months sales the evidence from this month show its possible it could top the PS4...and I guess it will do so holidays.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
The 3D World one is replacing the M&L one as the standard. But yeh, bundles galore.
Any hints on some LTDs? I love addition =).
That is what I said in June..... And yes, it is substantial Sony has made a great turnaround in the U.S. In the end both consoles are doing well at this stage showing a lot of life in consoles.
Mass Effect
Member
You do realize that the gap is now over 700k right? And that even if the PS4 sells only 1 more unit than the Xbox the gap still grows, you know that right?
I mean you are right that the disparity isn't that big in the scheme of things, but it's only growing larger with every month, making it progressively harder for Microsoft to catch up.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
How dare ye? *slaps*
At this point I think Wii U sales will stall out until the holidays. No one with disposable income wants to buy one who hasn't bought one yet. Traditionally they do better during the holidays.
That said, they really need something to keep the holiday push going well afterwards. Hopefully their game a month plan will actually do something for it, but I'm doubting it.
Xbox One is starting to look really in trouble. It won't hit Wii U numbers based on third parties alone but it's really going to hurt.
At this point Sony's got it this time. It's a really boring generation but its clear that the bulk of enthusiasts just wanted to play their perennial franchises that looked the best on the cheapest system. It just leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth that Madden continues to rock sales charts every year despite it being the laziest piece of software in gaming.
That said, they really need something to keep the holiday push going well afterwards. Hopefully their game a month plan will actually do something for it, but I'm doubting it.
Xbox One is starting to look really in trouble. It won't hit Wii U numbers based on third parties alone but it's really going to hurt.
At this point Sony's got it this time. It's a really boring generation but its clear that the bulk of enthusiasts just wanted to play their perennial franchises that looked the best on the cheapest system. It just leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth that Madden continues to rock sales charts every year despite it being the laziest piece of software in gaming.
Randolph Freelander
Member
This month, last month, the month before... there is a trend.