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Plex confirmed for Xbox One

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
A huge Megaton.

Is this the first time a game console will play MKV files?
No. This is a Plex client app being proposed.

Xbone One wouldn't be playing MKV files unless it already does. Otherwise, they'd be getting remuxed by the Plex Media Server (or transcoded depending on the underlying media codecs). It's the same concept as Playstation Media Server, etc. back in the day for your PS3 or 360.


The difference being we should expect a prettier front-end than what DNLA traditionally gives you. Well at least I hope.


When this gets released the Xbox One will be the dominate media player.
No
 

Shylock

Member
It is simply using the HDMI in ... but includes the best config info in terms of power on, remote control setup, etc.

Yeah, it's a pretty good write up -- I left the power portion on (I like to at least attempt to have the xbone put it to sleep, since wmc will ignore that if it's actively recording), and the "no sound = no screen updates to the x1 tv app" is a pain, but it definitely works.

There's still a bunch of flakiness with the hdmi handshake, but that seems to be more a problem with win8.1, and it's easier to just kick it and let it ocassionally reboot into wmc.

(and I should probably stop going offtopic. :)
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Yeah, it's a pretty good write up -- I left the power portion on (I like to at least attempt to have the xbone put it to sleep, since wmc will ignore that if it's actively recording), and the "no sound = no screen updates to the x1 tv app" is a pain, but it definitely works.

There's still a bunch of flakiness with the hdmi handshake, but that seems to be more a problem with win8.1, and it's easier to just kick it and let it ocassionally reboot into wmc.

(and I should probably stop going offtopic. :)
wmc 7 is plenty flaky too.

The level of flakiness is also compounded by your GPU and drivers. Fuck HDCP
 
Plex doesn't play back local files.......

It requires a server to be set up that stores the files. Then it can stream or transcode them.

Both can be on the same machine though, so it definitely can play local files.

I've switched from Plex to XBMC and I don't think I'd get an Xbone to replace my Mac mini for HTPC duties, but this is a step in the right direction. Hopefully other consoles follow suit...

Consider me a jelly PS4 owner. I still use my PS3 all the time for plex.

I had no idea PS3 supported Plex. I'm assuming it's the shitty version like on a SmartTV or is it closer to PlexHT?
 
I'd assume for resources intensive tasks, a server by default should be on capable hardware. It's there to serve, transcode, index files. And to possibly multiple clients at a time. Not just storage buddy.

You can run the server and client on your most powerful client machine. The server can be basically just storage, just use a smb share. That's the way I did while I was using Plex. Everything ran on the Mac mini (which is like the 2010 model and not very powerful, but more than enough for 1080p video). My unraid server acted as just storage.

With XBMC everything is in 1 program, which has advantages and disadvantages. If you only have 1 main TV and a few mobile clients it's much better IMO.

Edit: Crap, sorry for DP, didn't realize the thread was moving so slowly.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Both can be on the same machine though, so it definitely can play local files.
Yes it can ... on a computer.

In the context of this conversation though, I suspect Xbone is only getting a client app?





I had no idea PS3 supported Plex. I'm assuming it's the shitty version like on a SmartTV or is it closer to PlexHT?
It simply uses DNLA.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
You can run the server and client on your most powerful client machine. The server can be basically just storage, just use a smb share. That's the way I did while I was using Plex. Everything ran on the Mac mini (which is like the 2010 model and not very powerful, but more than enough for 1080p video). My unraid server acted as just storage.

With XBMC everything is in 1 program, which has advantages and disadvantages. If you only have 1 main TV and a few mobile clients it's much better IMO.

Edit: Crap, sorry for DP, didn't realize the thread was moving so slowly.
I actually have 2 Plex servers running. One on my NAS (unRAID server w/ limited specs), and another on my WMC DVR machine (that points to the unRAID shares).


That way, I don't need to use the more powerful machine when using clients that don't require transcoding.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
I actually have 2 Plex servers running. One on my NAS (unRAID server w/ limited specs), and another on my WMC DVR machine (that points to the unRAID shares).


That way, I don't need to use the more powerful machine when using clients that don't require transcoding.

Interesting, no issues with clashing? Can you only run one at a time, or do the plex clients smartly handle any duplicate entries from seeing two servers?

I have my storage on an unraid (still on 4.7 though), and my server on a Mac mini which is also the client for my TV.
 
Interesting, no issues with clashing? Can you only run one at a time, or do the plex clients smartly handle any duplicate entries from seeing two servers?

I have my storage on an unraid (still on 4.7 though), and my server on a Mac mini which is also the client for my TV.

You really should upgrade, at least to 5.0.
 

androvsky

Member
No, it doesn't, not even through 'play to'. You doing something I'm not aware of?

If people are counting transcoding then it should just fine, through the Plex web client. Even the PS4 works. I don't have an Xbox, but from what I hear the browser should be more than able to handle it.
 
It does play through play to, but the app itself has to support it.

Which current app supports play to of MKV on Xbox One?

If people are counting transcoding then it should just fine, through the Plex web client. Even the PS4 works. I don't have an Xbox, but from what I hear the browser should be more than able to handle it.

Oh yea, the plex web client should work fine, but I was curious as to what else might have been meant when it was suggested that MKVs play on the Xbox One.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Interesting, no issues with clashing? Can you only run one at a time, or do the plex clients smartly handle any duplicate entries from seeing two servers?

I have my storage on an unraid (still on 4.7 though), and my server on a Mac mini which is also the client for my TV.
I don't see any clashes, but that's because as far as I know (as you assumed) plex's client/server model is many-to-one not many-to-many. You can switch what server you are connected to within a client at will, but it will only do one server connection at a time. At least as far as I know.

For me that doesn't really present a problem since I just default the server that makes the most sense for a given client. STB's, mobile, laptop when traveling (for bit limiting), etc., I connect to the HTPC. For PC's, and similar devices with good codec support ... I simply connect straight to the NAS. So for that reason, I'm not switching server connections often.



I will say I eventually see myself moving away from this setup though. After switching jobs I don't travel regularly anymore, and I have an HTPC in the living room. And as STB's continue to get more an more powerful, I definitely see a time where I'll only need the lower-end NAS as a server once (if) transcoding becomes unnecessary. But then again, situations change. So I guess this kind of setup is good to keep in the back of your mind in case you need it.

Another reason I can see to move to one server is an eventual NAS upgrade. As processors continue to get more and more frugal, and also actually have low idle power consumption (Haswell, etc) ... I can also see a potential future where I can have the best of both worlds. A Plex server that does support transcoding but doesn't use a shit-ton of electricity. I guess which setup I go with depends on what happens first ... powerful enough low-wattage clients with good codec support (or onboard transcoding) ... or an energy-sipping server that can handle transcoding that isn't too expensive to buy/build.

The more I think about it, the more likely I see the latter coming to fruition first. For quality reasons though, I'd always prefer no transcoding. But I suspect there's a longer horizon to getting energy sipping clients with direct play support at a reasonable price than an energy efficient server build.
 

Heratiki

Member
So for $50 more than the PS4 I can get a media player? Wouldn't it be more beneficial if I just spent the extra $50 on a Chromecast and get the more powerful of the two consoles?
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
So for $50 more than the PS4 I can get a media player? Wouldn't it be more beneficial if I just spent the extra $50 on a Chromecast and get the more powerful of the two consoles?
Yes.

Not to mention Plex may come to PS4, or even if it doesn't ... I expect DNLA support will at least be there. This really isn't a selling factor IMO. Certainly a nice extra if you already want or have one though.
 
Which current app supports play to of MKV on Xbox One?



Oh yea, the plex web client should work fine, but I was curious as to what else might have been meant when it was suggested that MKVs play on the Xbox One.

Unfortunately the list is not very long (there are a disheartening lack of play everything media players on the store), but I've tested with Mobile.HD and Power DVD, neither would display subtitles (embedded or loaded separately) but works.
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I have to imagine that VLC may also be coming to XB1 of this universal app concept of theirs pans out since an RT version of VLC may be ready in the near future.
 

RedStep

Member
So for $50 more than the PS4 I can get a media player? Wouldn't it be more beneficial if I just spent the extra $50 on a Chromecast and get the more powerful of the two consoles?

Do we need this shit every time a feature or game is announced? Nobody came and asked you to buy an Xbox One to use Plex. You have no interest in it, so why open the thread and post?

This really isn't a selling factor IMO. Certainly a nice extra if you already want or have one though.

You don't say. Good thing they scrapped the plan to put "Buy the Xbox One to use Plex" stickers on all the boxes.
 
If they can get the power consumption envelope down along with a full featured plex client I'd dig that (if they can expand the Xbone's library to where I'd WANT that to be my one and only tv box.) reminds me of my original Xbox XBMC setup. fire TV and wiiu is a decently elegant setup for now. (Plex for android is not bad at all)
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Do we need this shit every time a feature or game is announced? Nobody came and asked you to buy an Xbox One to use Plex. You have no interest in it, so why open the thread and post?



You don't say. Good thing they scrapped the plan to put "Buy the Xbox One to use Plex" stickers on all the boxes.
Want some fries with that salt?
 

EvB

Member
It's listed on the xbox servers and people are using it...

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acksman

Member
About time been waiting for this. Essentially Plex allows you to have a pretty view of your video catalog. It goes out and grabs the metadata on information and pulls back all the images and even music. Then it index and then will transcode as needed.

Another picture to give you an idea.

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npa189

Member
Is this going to be an app? I'd rather use a Plex app than the native DLNA that's coming because Plex just works.
 
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
fucking hell.

I just got a roku for this. haha. well that would be nice!

So for $50 more than the PS4 I can get a media player? Wouldn't it be more beneficial if I just spent the extra $50 on a Chromecast and get the more powerful of the two consoles?

nah chromecast is shitty next to plex.
 

aaronwt

Member
What good is plex if the Xbox One still maps the surround audio incorrectly? With a 7.1 system the Xbox One still erroneously maps the surround channels to the rear surrounds. From the HDMI input, apps, and file playback(BD playback and game audio is fine). So audio that should be coming from the sides, erroneously comes from the rear. Or is the audio mapped properly using Plex?

I really enjoy my two Xbox Ones, but this audio issue has been very annoying.
 

JaggedSac

Member
What good is plex if the Xbox One stil maps the surround audio incorrectly? With a 7.1 system the Xbox One still erroneously maps the surround channels to teh rear. From the HDMI input, apps, and fiel playback. So audio that should be coming from the sides, erroneously comes from the rear. Or is the audio mapped properly using Plex?

It is of use for me since I don't have a 7.1 setup, lol.
 

Prine

Banned
fucking hell.

I just got a roku for this. haha. well that would be nice!



nah chromecast is shitty next to plex.

Plex works with chromecast. I can be at a friends house, use Plex app on my phone and cast my media library at home on my friends Chromecast.

Plex is amazing. This is my megaton news, time to PLEX !!!!!
 

JaggedSac

Member
Lame, that seems to be the case with most xbone stuff doesn't it?

Something like Plex certainly needs a beta. So many different configurations and files that need to be fleshed out before letting loose on everyone. Just like MS's media player is having a good bit of issues.
 

le.phat

Member
So for $50 more than the PS4 I can get a media player? Wouldn't it be more beneficial if I just spent the extra $50 on a Chromecast and get the more powerful of the two consoles?

Plex works beautifully on ps4 as well. It's through the browser so the interface is not as intuitive as a native app, but streaming stuff from your laptop/network disk/etc works flawlessly.
 
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