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Media Create Sales: Week 37, 2014 (Sep 08 - Sep 14)

crinale

Member
Well there's God Eater 2 Rage Burst too. With TV series announced it should have some effect to PS4
hopefully
.
 

hiska-kun

Member
So I think these are likely to be the biggest PS4 titles each month for the next 6 months or so:

Sep - Destiny
Oct - The Evil Within
Nov - Call of Duty Advanced Warfare
Dec - Grand Theft Auto V
Jan - Far Cry 4
Feb - Bloodborne
Mar - Final Fantasy Type-0 HD

March will also have Disgaea 5, and Yakuza 0 should be around March/April too. It's a pretty thin line-up overall until Feb anyway, mostly being kept alive by western games. It's funny because even The Evil Within is a western publisher, even though it's Mikami.

Destiny should be able to do >150k on the PS4, but legs will determine if it can hit 200k. Word of mouth will probably be key there.

The Evil Within... honestly I really don't know. I feel like there's zero hype for it anywhere in the world. Wouldn't be surprised if it tanked with <100k.

It'll be interesting to see if the CoD AW split is similar to Destiny's. If it is, that could be a really big title for PS4, since it sells almost 300k on PS3 normally.

GTAV is another interesting one. The TLoU and Tomb Raider remasters both did ~40k on the PS4 which isn't that great, but GTAV is a much bigger title, and the remaster looks much more significant. If it still moves similar numbers, that would tell us that the PS4 audience right now doesn't care for remasters much.

Dragon Quest Heroes is march according to my sources (a believed retailer).
If they can't be on time, then it will be april-May, cause the game is dated for spring 2015 in Square Enix official page.
 

zeromcd73

Member
Dragon Quest Heroes is march according to my sources (a believed retailer).
If they can't be on time, then it will be april-May, cause the game is dated for spring 2015 in Square Enix official page.
Would't it be strange for SE to release DQH and FF0HD on the same month?
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Not if they're trying to pad their earnings before the close of the financial year. They haven't released much this year have they?
Deus Ex, despite being heavily rumored for unveil (they usually follow up on their trademarks within a couple months too, which were back in April/May), is also MIA, so they might have a large hole to fill in their financial calendar compared to their original expectations.

I mean they're releasing zero new retail Eidos titles this fiscal year given Murdered was like the last remaining old Square Enix USA project.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
March is also when life and hometown go HD, with Senran Kagura: Estival Versus. Interested in seeing the PS4/Vita split for that game.
 

Road

Member
I think there's no secret title. Didn't Sony already correct their TGS page?

What Morita said to Famitsu was they were going to announce something for the holiday season in the future, not necessarily this TGS, not necessarily a new game, lest alone a huge game. I'm guessing bundles.

Isn't Dragon Quest Heroes in March? Something like that?

DQ Heroes is "spring", anywhere from March to June.

March 2015 is already starting to get crowded (like usual):

19 - FF Type-0 HD
26 - Disgaea 5
26 - Senran Kagura Estival Versus

It would be better for Sony to have DQH on April or May, but it's a Square Enix and Koei Tecmo decision; it's also DQ, meaning it's the other games that should move out of its way. =P
 

zeromcd73

Member
I think there's no secret title. Didn't Sony already correct their TGS page?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r5HFgajF98&feature=youtu.be
10:40 &#8211; 20th Year Anniversary &#8211; Dengeki PlayStation Big Announcement Special &#8211; December this year is PlayStation&#8217;s 20th anniversary, as well as Dengeki PlayStation&#8217;s. Here, a special project for the future will be announced. Featuring Yoshimichi Nishioka (Dengeki PlayStation Editor-In-Chief).
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2014/09/tokyo-game-show-2014-live-stream-schedule#QPFps8TqPeGbFbZ6.99

Get ready, secret title + GTAV + Guilty Gear gonna save PS4 this holiday season.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Totally anecdotal things in this post, but Destiny popped up more than a few times in my Facebook feed from Japanese friends. Even the girl who works for Nintendo bought the white PS4 edition and she has been happy. Not like people can't buy consoles from competing companies anyway.
Before that, not many of my japanese friends talked about buying a PS4. Like at all really. Only about MGS when it was released.

Now, it has been Final Fantasy XIV video posts all day long. That should create a biiiig splash when released. Also Bloodborne is sure to create a good bumb. Bot of these are far away though. I wonder what games can keep the momentum for PS4 in Japan or if it will fall down below 10 000 again soon.

Monhan of course is crazy popular. Cashcow no matter where its released.

No, I live in Japan too and I know Destiny's hype is real. But according to some experts here, PS4 was selling this week just because the white color (that will be released next month without bundle and cheaper).
Destiny has nothing to do. The software sales you see in the ranking are an illusion too.
 

small44

Member
I think titles like Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, etc. are intended to change perception of Nintendo's brand, Iwata was saying there was a perception that Nintendo is casual. Or uninterested in certain kinds of content. So Nintendo does see value in changing the perception of what titles they are interested in.

I've heard the phrase "prestige title" used to classify that kind of title whose purpose is to change the perception of a brand. A guy at a car dealership once told me that car manufacturers make high end or unusual models, send them to races, to add to the prestige and perception of the brand, so maybe it's the same idea :p

Maybe when all is said and done, people will note Nintendo's efforts to get their customers to play online (SSB, Splatoon, Devil's Third, Xenoblade X it seems, they're upcoming games that are going to have online aspects), to buy digital content, to connect through Miiverse...or maybe there isn't much interest in their brand at all and thus not much of a perception to change. This is all rather qualitative for a sales thread though so I'll shut up now ;-)

There's nothing wrong to attract casuals especially when it's thanks to them that wii sold that well
 

duckroll

Member
I think we're definitely looking at a Q1 2015 for PS4 that is do or die. There are enough big titles coming out in rapid succession which are about as appealing to the Japanese console audience as we can ever get, with even bigger titles promised on the near horizon for the rest of the year. If the PS4 sales don't pick up in a very significant way, we can at least be certain then that it's basically doomed like the WiiU. So it's going to be very exciting to look forward to.
 

Meier

Member
Amazing to see such significant sell-through of the shipped amount for Smash Bros. Very happy for all involved!
 

crinale

Member
March is also when life and hometown go HD, with Senran Kagura: Estival Versus. Interested in seeing the PS4/Vita split for that game.

The limited edition of PS4 version is (subjectively) better so that should push the split in PS4's favor a bit
 

hiska-kun

Member
Not if they're trying to pad their earnings before the close of the financial year. They haven't released much this year have they?

It seems that before releasing Hyrule Warriors, Koei said they had another colaboration's game (this DQH) planned for the second half of the fiscal year.
I can't search the source because I'm using the phone. If somebody can check it...
 

Scum

Junior Member
The PS4 has a regular schedule of games (a luxury the WiiU doesn't have), albeit Western orientated ones, but surely that regular output of games in a timely manner should be more than enough to get it the fuck away from WiiU territory right...?

....

...right?

Amazing to see such significant sell-through of the shipped amount for Smash Bros. Very happy for all involved!

I want my copy NAO! :<
 

duckroll

Member
It seems that before releasing Hyrule Warriors, Koei said they had another colaboration's game (this DQH) planned for the second half of the fiscal year.
I can't search the source because I'm using the phone. If somebody can check it...

Are you talking about this one?

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20140507_647154.html

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Definitely sounds like it's within this financial year then. So unless it's delayed beyond their control, DQH will probably land in March.
 

crinale

Member
If that's the case, then again, FF Type 0 and DQ Heroes crammed into same month, hmm.

Edit:

Couldn't that be One Piece Musou 3?

The article also says something like this:

"After One Piece and Gundam collaboration, they were also used to make some stuff for smartphones and Western market. KT can not disclose the actual IP to be newly collaborated just yet."
 
The PS4 has a regular schedule of games (a luxury the WiiU doesn't have), albeit Western orientated ones, but surely that regular output of games in a timely manner should be more than enough to get it the fuck away from WiiU territory right...?

....

...right?
If that Final Fantasy schedule (FF every 3 months starting December) is accurate, hopefully we can knock 2 birds out with one stone;
1: Getting the PS4 to a healthier baseline
2: Making people so sick of Final Fantasy that the series finally dies
 

Meier

Member
Wow, just noticed that Yokai Watch 2 still did 46k even with it being down 26%. Incredible to think of that applying a 2 month old game.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Wow, just noticed that Yokai Watch 2 still did 46k even with it being down 26%. Incredible to think of that applying a 2 month old game.

It seems Media Create's sample had more shops with the game sold out than the Famitsu's one. Because it's increasing in Famitsu's Ranking (and YW2 doesn't have download cards).
 
Nintendo choose the wrong game to fund

They also chose Devils Third lol. Its apparent they are doing to this to get more games for the WiiU.

Speaking of the limited edition DQH PS4....

http://www.jp.playstation.com/info/release/nr_20140901_ps4mse.html

I looked at the press release again, and aside from having no date, it also has no price. If Sony is looking to drop the price of the PS4 at around that time, this might be the perfect way to do it. Otherwise I think they'll wait until later in the year before considering a price drop. Maybe with MGSV or FFXV.

o_O

If Type0HD, DQ slime PS4 and DQ Heroes are all hitting in March, I hope Sony does what you said and does a PS4 price-cut with them.

No the price cut should be saved for the launch of FFXV in late 2015 :p

Also isn't RE coming early 2015 as well. Early 2015 will be important for PS4.
 
I think we're definitely looking at a Q1 2015 for PS4 that is do or die. There are enough big titles coming out in rapid succession which are about as appealing to the Japanese console audience as we can ever get, with even bigger titles promised on the near horizon for the rest of the year. If the PS4 sales don't pick up in a very significant way, we can at least be certain then that it's basically doomed like the WiiU. So it's going to be very exciting to look forward to.

Well PS4 sales picked up in a significant way with Destiny, so I can't see how it doesn't pick up with next year's schedule.
 
Well PS4 sales picked up in a significant way with Destiny, so I can't see how it doesn't pick up with next year's schedule.

It's not about the pick-ups caused by releases of tentpole titles, it's about increasing the overall baseline.

There's no point if PS4 sells 30k every week for March, only to drop to 6k in April. The Q1 games need to push the PS4's average weekly sales upwards and maintain a consistent growth as more and more titles are released.

There's no Mario Kart/Youkai Watch/Dragon Quest Heroes every month for these consoles to get the unnatural 'system seller' boost consistently. A console needs to be stable on its own terms ( aka the normal trend of regular games + occasional big games ), not a one-time savior.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
I think we're definitely looking at a Q1 2015 for PS4 that is do or die. There are enough big titles coming out in rapid succession which are about as appealing to the Japanese console audience as we can ever get, with even bigger titles promised on the near horizon for the rest of the year. If the PS4 sales don't pick up in a very significant way, we can at least be certain then that it's basically doomed like the WiiU. So it's going to be very exciting to look forward to.

I think a change of pace is a lock. we should bet on the intensity of this change. I think that a first half 3ds like rhythm is possible
 

Kandinsky

Member
Man after TGS and how aggressive most thirds parties are releasing stuff on PS4, I doubt the thing goes sub 10k again, hell starting in Feb I doubt it goes below 20k!.
 

sense

Member
i feel like bloodborne is going to give ps4 a significant boost and sell more than the other souls games. price drop will probably be like late january or early february. can't see them pricing dqh bundle with price cut ahead of bloodborne release. people might just wait at that point.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Expecting price drops for both WiiU and PS4 next spring, i also think that Nintendo will release Animal Crossing WiiU around the same time that the MK8 DLC pack hits. The game will probably be the mayor announcement for the console in the first Direct of 2015.
 

crinale

Member
Man after TGS and how aggressive most thirds parties are releasing stuff on PS4, I doubt the thing goes sub 10k again, hell starting in Feb I doubt it goes below 20k!.

I won't be surprised if it goes below 10K this week :p
Seriously, after those heavy hitters appear baseline may rise quite a bit.
And yes, I am really surprised how many Japanese third parties are on board, even some of them are cross gen (by looking at Japanese internet it seems many of Japanese gamers are thinking the same way). Who would expect that to happen before Sony's pre-TGS conference?
 
Expecting price drops for both WiiU and PS4 next spring, i also think that Nintendo will release Animal Crossing WiiU around the same time that the MK8 DLC pack hits. The game will probably be the mayor announcement for the console in the first Direct of 2015.

I wonder if Nintendo is even wasting their time with AC Wii U and not just working on the next handheld game.
 
I won't be surprised if it goes below 10K this week :p
Seriously, after those heavy hitters appear baseline may rise quite a bit.
And yes, I am really surprised how many Japanese third parties are on board, even some of them are cross gen (by looking at Japanese internet it seems many of Japanese gamers are thinking the same way). Who would expect that to happen before Sony's pre-TGS conference?

I've always felt that Japanese publishers were always going to be on board, but a year later than everyone else. The sense from the how Japanese devs were talking about the PS4 when asked really felt like a "ask us next year" kind of vibe. Maybe not all of them, but surely most of them will give a good effort at least once or twice.

But the pipeline is definitely somewhat surprising. I was expect a mediocre, but serviceable 2015 that still needs the hope of FFXV winter release, but now I see a super solid Q1 2015, and further down the road with Persona, TPP, etc, which, with the Q1 boost, I can see pushing the PS4 install base enough so that those games do better on PS4 instead of PS3 overall.

And the light at the end of the tunnel, the small hope of a winter 2015 release FFXV is within possibility...
 

Shahed

Member
Do Namco have anything new for PS4 bar Gundam? I'm aware of God Eater, but that's more of an expansion than anything
 

Shahed

Member
There was that Morpheus high school girl in your room simulator.

Kind of wanted to forget about that...

Dragon Ball and Pirate Warriors 3 (yes developer is KT I know but publisher is still Bamco).

And I forgot about these! It's weird in that they're all licensed games, but in my head I see Gundam as Namco's game while stuff based on Shounen as someone else entirely for some strange reason
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Gundam
IM@S (announced last year, no update yet)
God Eater
Tekken
Lords of Fallen
One Piece Musou
Dragon Ball Xeno

Maybe they're too busy doing stuff for Nintendo at the moment (Wii Sports Club before, now Smash, Pokken, the holiday Wii U titles, Taiko, etc.)
 

test_account

XP-39C²
A decline is simply a decline, while stagnation is something much more severe more akin to having reached the maximum attach rate, which at this point is simply hyperbole in my opinion, looking at past weeks sales performances and especially last weeks sales performance despite the announcement of a new model, seeing how we´ll be looking at multimillions of system sold this year alone, and about further millions in the next few years.

If we assume 4m-6m from now on are reachable, we would talk about a sales volume of 25%-37% of its current lifetime sales.
Fair enough. The 3DS still has some life left in it indeed.


I prefered a Soul Sacrifice anime
That would be really cool. Making an episode with each archfiend, how they became being a monster and having a fight at the end.
 

Koren

Member
I wonder if Nintendo is even wasting their time with AC Wii U and not just working on the next handheld game.
I can't see a second AC on 3DS, even on n3DS. Seeing how similar those games are*, I don't think it has the potential to be a success remotely comparable to the first game (and most die-hard AC fans probably still play it at least from time to time).

So next handheld AC is what... 2017 at the very best? I can't see them already working hard on it.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that an AC U should be interesting enough, in term of sales (even if it's not even close to the 3DS version), to warrant the investment.


* in fact, I'd like to see them allowing a catalog transfer between games, I'll be annoyed if I have again to spend months looking for a green table or a modern chair, not because I need them but just so that they're present in the catalog. I'm even OK if you can't order it as long as you haven't unlocked in-game, but cataloging is starting to become tedious and repetitive, game after game...
 
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