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Tim & Eric's Bedtime Stories|OT| Less comedy, more existential terror- Debuts Sept 18

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Who: Tim Heidecker and Eric Wareheim.
When: New episodes debut on Adult Swim Thurday night at 12:15am (aka Friday morning). Episodes available to stream on Adult Swim's website later.
What: Anthology show modeled after The Twilight Zone and Night Gallery. Each episode is one self-contained story. Apparently very dark. Guests include John C. Reilly, Bob Odenkirk, Zach Galifianakis, Laurie Metcalf, and Lauren Cohan.

What Tim & Eric have to say about it:
http://www.vice.com/read/tim-and-eric-tell-us-their-greatest-fears-822
Vice: OK, so this is some armchair analysis from yours truly, but the common thread I noticed in the episodes is the underlying fear that exists below the surface of the modern suburban existence. Am I just up in my own ass about that, or was that intentional?
Tim: I think it’s there for sure. I think our ideas are products of our environment and our life, and we’re white boys: suburban, middle-class people. So I always think about that. We’re way close to the edge of everything falling apart. It feels like that every day. How has this not turned to total shit? How are people still working at TJ Maxx and not throwing garbage cans through windows? So the relationships that characters have in our shows are generally relationships that feel like they could turn into murder at any point.
Eric: Yeah, I think one thing we’ve connected—even back in college—was that we’ve always seen the undercurrent of what was happening. There’s society, and then there’s like, you can’t believe what is really happening. I recall this one image of this poor guy who was a sign twirler at this big real estate development. It was just a guy holding a sign, and across the street, at another development, was a motorized guy with the same job. That just blew my mind—that this man had to sit there and look at that motorized version of himself the whole day. Those are the kinds of themes that we look at, and we’re like, “That’s a real fucking nightmare existence.” That’s what we’re trying to do in this new show.

Here are some promos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yj41hLwUI&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFX5FXTCyMs&hd=1

 

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At first glance this looks like a Tim & Eric version of

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Count me in if it has Tim & Eric insanity in it.
 
Getting a total Hitchcock vide from those promo posters, I hope they do one for each episode. I'm expecting these to be darker than their normal stuff, more along the lines of The Terrys or some of the shorts they did for Funny or Die Presents.
 
Same, The Terrys is one of the best things they've done. Imo the darker the better when it comes to them. They're really good at it. That one episode from Awesome Show where Casey goes missing was so well done. Never seen anyone channel Lynchian horror that effectively.
 
WHO PUT THESE HOLES IN MY BELT?! WHO PUT THESE HOLES IN MY BELT?!

Praise Susan, I am so hyped for more T&E.

I want some DARK shit you guys. So ready.
 

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I'm mixed on Hole. I think it had good moments—parts of that captured how weird suburban existence is, and the baseball bat was funny. My favorite moment was probably Brenner listing off all the appetizers, it wasn't scary or that hilarious but it captured the deep awkwardness of someone going on vacantly while you're just waiting to talk. Overall though this didn't work narratively, it didn't build well enough. I know that's hard to do in 11 minutes but other AS shows do it in the pure comedy realm, so I'm hoping T&E can nail it down in later eps
 

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I enjoyed it, it was shallow but they nailed the creepiness. I feel like it would have benefited from a 22 minute run time, it was a good premise that didn't have any room to breath.
 

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I enjoyed it, it was shallow but they nailed the creepiness. I feel like it would have benefited from a 22 minute run time, it was a good premise that didn't have any room to breath.

I felt like the AV Club review was accurate on that: it's basically a tim and eric spin on sci-fi/horror anthologies but with the second act removed. Goes straight from "normalcy with something amiss" to "chaos", no gradual twisting.

Which could work really well later on but in Hole was just ok
 
Yeah I wasn't feeling it as much as I wanted to. Like you guys have mentioned, this kind of narrative pace needs a longer runtime to flesh things out more and to properly instill dread. I am consistently surprised how well Tim can do the dark side of humanity. It's downright unsettling how convincing he is at the socio/psychopath role. My favorite scene was
Eric caving and hanging out with Tim and his "friends", the latter really reminding me of those shady, mysterious background characters you'd see in a Lynch film like Wild At Heart. It just evoked this feeling of "what kind of fucked up shit have these people done?"

I do wonder if the short runtime was a choice T&E made or more of a Mike Lazzo decision. 10 minutes worked perfectly for Tom Goes to the Mayor and Awesome Show's styles, but not for this, at least the first one. Really hoping they get feel fuller and better paced as it continues.
 

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This thread reminded me to do something i really need to: find out a neogaf thread of great Tim and Eric videos
 
I enjoyed the first ep quite a bit. It was funny, and unsettling at points. I think the ending needed more, but that's fine. It's a 10 minute show, and I know they're going to be taking stabs at all kinds of different things. As a proof of concept I think this episode sold the show to me. I'm an easy guy for T+E though. However, I don't like Check It Out!, because I think they've turned Brule from a hapless goof with strange ways of talking into someone who's just mentally impaired and that isn't really funny to me.

Anyway, roll on this frackin season.
 
I liked the first episode, but boy, it cannot be stressed enough that this needed to be more than 10 minutes. There were parts of the show I actually thought something had gone wrong with the broadcast because of how disjointed and rushed everything felt.
 
Just thought I'd mention T&E are going to be on the podcast WTF with Marc Maron on Thursday. He's had Heidecker on before (which was a great interview) but not Wareheim. Very interested in hearing them together for a lengthy discussion. Wonder how straight they're gonna play it...
 

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Just thought I'd mention T&E are going to be on the podcast WTF with Marc Maron on Thursday. He's had Heidecker on before (which was a great interview) but not Wareheim. Very interested in hearing them together for a lengthy discussion. Wonder how straight they're gonna play it...
they'll play it straight, maron wouldn't put up with their shit if they did any shtick.
 

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I've watched Hole twice now. The first time I watched it, I didn't quite know what to do with it. I shouldn't have been taken off guard, having watched some of the tonally similar stuff they've done in recent years, but I still didn't know exactly how to process it.

When I watched Hole for a second time I enjoyed it much more. It think it helped that I knew what was in front of me so I was in a better position to absorb what was coming.

In a lot of ways it felt like a Tom goes to the Mayor episode. On the surface it's the same length and it's just one story, but it also had the same structure of one guy playing it strait to a fault in the face of a lot of craziness being thrown at him.

Also, it has a lot more of T&E's signature gags than I noticed the first time through: weird editing touches (like the bat-to-the-windshield scene taking so long), the weirdness of Brenner hiring guys to blowtorch his roses and cut down his tree, and especially the scene with the fat guys stuffing their faces. That scene with the guys in their man cave stuffing their faces produced that classic T&E felling of "to what extent were they in on the joke?". I mean, those guys are legitimately fat in real life and they were forced to gorge themselves like that for the camera.

Great stuff. I can't wait for the rest of the season.
 
I went to the T&E live show last week and they showed an episode. Not sure it was the same one that aired but it was creepy as hell and Bob was extremely funny (Toe Doctor?)

This is how I prefer their comedy. I thought the Great Job show got too sill and chaotic for me. This was much better IMO
 

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I went to the T&E live show last week and they showed an episode. Not sure it was the same one that aired but it was creepy as hell and Bob was extremely funny (Toe Doctor?)

This is how I prefer their comedy. I thought the Great Job show got too sill and chaotic for me. This was much better IMO
That was Toes, which airs tonight

And I don't even think of Bedtime Stories as a comedy, T&E have basically said as much (though Hole had funny moments). I think it could still turn out amazing but the chaos of awesome show is definitely hilarious
 

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Just thought I'd mention T&E are going to be on the podcast WTF with Marc Maron on Thursday. He's had Heidecker on before (which was a great interview) but not Wareheim. Very interested in hearing them together for a lengthy discussion. Wonder how straight they're gonna play it...
Thanks for the heads-up on this; I listened to the first part of the interview during lunch.

They actually addressed the bolded topic in the interview.
 
Thanks for the heads-up on this; I listened to the first part of the interview during lunch.

They actually addressed the bolded topic in the interview.

Yeah I listened to it earlier it was a pretty good interview. The stories of messing with other interviewers and just doing improv when they're bored with it was funny. There were a few times I was thinking they were sort of messing with Maron, kinda hard to tell with those two sometimes. Wareheim seemed kinda bored and "above it all" in parts but he gave some decent insight even if most of the info has been said before.
 

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Yea that was an amazing interview, maron wasn't too neurotic and the guys were really talking about their inspirations which I loved. I'm going to show this podcast to my dad.
 

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Thought this one would really click for me. An odd body horror premise, amazing cast. It...didn't do it for me much at all. Last week the problem was not enough build. This week there was zero build. The premise was "lonely guy cuts off toes and eats them". A kinda eerie idea executed without any finesse. It didn't work as body horror, gore effects weren't very good. This show just isn't very scary, hell it's less existentially terrifying than a lot of episodes of awesome show or eric andre. And instead of having a lot of jokes like those shows, it has 1 or 2 an ep. The new dad joke at the end made me laugh, that was it.
 

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The Halloween episode from last year is the weakest of the three so far IMO. Though I haven't watched that one in a while.

The episode next week looks to have a similar silly feel.

I pretty much only watch "Absolutely" shows so this is my fav show on TV right now :)
 
Yeah pretty underwhelming, I did enjoy Odenkirk's performance though. He can do the subtle darkness well. I'll probably keep saying this as the show goes on but man do they need a longer runtime. Feels like they don't really know how to properly tell these stories with that limitation.
 

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I'm starting to think the problem might be context. In other Abso/T&E material, moments of abject horror are surrounded by the banal or adolescent or by public TV stylization. in Bedtime stories it's an attempt at straight horror, so the end package isn't very...horrifying. at all
 

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Got to see them (and Steve Brule!) live last night, they showed next week's episode, it was really goofy and a lot of fun.
The ending twist is amazing.
 

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Surprised that you guys aren't loving this, I think all 3 have been great. Can't wait to see the other 5.
 

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are there really only 5 more? I thought the Haunted House pilot wasn't counting towards the order and the season would be 8 episodes long; futon critic is saying the season's 11 episodes including the haunted house.
 

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are there really only 5 more? I thought the Haunted House pilot wasn't counting towards the order and the season would be 8 episodes long; futon critic is saying the season's 11 episodes including the haunted house.
Tim and Eric said they made 8 on maaaaaaaaaaaron
 
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