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DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
I'm really glad I found the Headphone OT here. Des and others convinced me to get Audio Technica M50's and I couldn't be happier with them. I'm probably an audio technica guy for life now.
 

Servbot24

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OP, those are literally two of the worst brands you could possibly choose. Stay far away from both.

Sennheiser is generally the safe bet for people getting into higher end headphones, but do some research and you'll find plenty of options.
 

Phoenix

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Senns - easily. I'd take a lowly pair of Sens HD-280s (my general workhorse) over anything from Beats or Bose.

But if you're forced between those two I think that the models of Beats work out better dollar for dollar compared to the equivalent priced Bose.
 

SimleuqiR

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Alright, I'm going to go head and make some assumptions and give you some recommendations:

If comfort and noise-cancelling is the utmost concern with less of a regard for sound quality and a wireless feature set then go ahead and go with the Bose QC25.

However if you want a really good sounding bluetooth set and aren't really concerned with active noise cancelling check these out:

Sony MDR MK2

I've been eyeing those Sony ones.
 

sploatee

formerly Oynox Slider
I can only speak from my experience - but don't buy Bose.

I had a pair of QC15s. The sound was flat and plasticky, with or without the noise cancelling. I sold them on eBay a week later.

If it helps at all, a lot of people have told me (as in real life told me!) that Beats headphones aren't particularly good either.
 

Kibbles

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Bose by a longshot. I listened to Beats and Bose's $200 Bluetooth speakers (pill vs sound link mini) and the Beats sounded incredibly bad for its price while the Bose sounded pretty damn good, ended up buying it.
 
I bought a pair of Marshall headphones (from the guitar amp company), and while they're pretty new to making headphones I thought they sounded pretty great. Was around ~$100 and I thought it compared favorably to the more expensive Beats/Bose headphones that I heard. Seemed equal with the Senheisers around the same price range. And the styling is similar to their amps. Worth checking out, I'd say.
 

HiResDes

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Yeah he definitely wants wired open-ear headphones

Awesome, thanks! I will check those out. I had been eyeing these but I'm not sure.

Audio-Technica ATH-M50S Professional Studio Monitor Headphones

I think they compare quite favorably in sound quality once you burn them in, and note I don't normally believe in burn-in but with these it seems legit.
 

Ferr986

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Awesome, thanks! I will check those out. I had been eyeing these but I'm not sure.

Audio-Technica ATH-M50S Professional Studio Monitor Headphones

M50 are the "ok for everything" cans. Keep in mind theres different variations, coiled cord, straight cord and the new ones have detatchable cord I think. These are the cans I have now and I love them, personally.

That being said, depending on what music genres/uses (gaming, movies...) you want to give to the headphones, there may be better choices.
 
I think they compare quite favorably in sound quality once you burn them in, and note I don't normally believe in burn-in but with these it seems legit.

Can we discuss this a bit further because I'm in the camp that it makes no difference. I believe ultimately what's happening is the change to a new headphone is a "shock" to your ears. So the burn-in is nothing more than your ears adjusting to the sound being presented to you versus the actual headphone changing.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap

The Monster cables of the headphones world.

Neither. Go for AKG, Sennheiser, or Audio Technica if you actually want good headphones.

Can't forget Beyerdynamic.

Grados are pretty good too, though the retro design on some make them kinda painful to wear after an hour or so.

Covered over and over again. You landed on cans that are more concerned with brand than quality, OP.

Anyway, add another vote for Grado. Most of the criticisms lobbed against them seem to focus on the fact that they don't do the low-end justice. I call that "neutral" and "awesome". But I have a lot of stuff that absolutely sings at the high-end, so YMMV.
 

HiResDes

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Can we discuss this a bit further because I'm in the camp that it makes no difference. I believe ultimately what's happening is the change to a new headphone is a "shock" to your ears. So the burn-in is nothing more than your ears adjusting to the sound being presented to you versus the actual headphone changing.

I'm generally with you and that might be exactly what happens, but there seem to be a special characteristic to these new Carbon Nanotube drivers that either sounds weird to the ear initially or takes the driver a longer time to really become set.
 
Honestly thought this was going to be a joke thread.

Currently content with my arrangement for various purposes:

Open-back: HiFiMan HE-400 with J$ Beyerdynamic leather pads

Closed-back: ATH M50

In-ears: VSonic VSD1s
 
I literally thought this was a joke post at first.

You're deciding between diarrhea and constipation

That's pretty off base when you consider people are suggesting ATH-M50's and VMODA which are equally as low-end heavy. Hell, even the DT-770 250ohm I have on now I find to be pretty heavy on the bass and not far off from the Beats I've tried. In terms of Beats being a fashion brand so is VMODA. Heck, even Sennheiser is trying to get into the fashion/design aspect with the Momentum line which are very different from their other stuff.

Beats and Bose are overpriced, yes, but they're not these awful bad headphones people seem to claim they are.
 

Onemic

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Neither, both are ridicuolosuly overpriced headphones

You can get much better quality headphones for about half the price of both brands. Senheiser, Sony, AKG, etc. are MUCH better brands than those two.

That's pretty off base when you consider people are suggesting ATH-M50's and VMODA which are equally as low-end heavy. Hell, even the DT-770 250ohm I have on now I find to be pretty heavy on the bass and not far off from the Beats I've tried. In terms of Beats being a fashion brand so is VMODA. Heck, even Sennheiser is trying to get into the fashion/design aspect with the Momentum line which are very different from their other stuff.

Beats and Bose are overpriced, yes, but they're not these awful bad headphones people seem to claim they are.


They're awful because they're overpriced by a ludicrous amount.
 

BossLackey

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That's pretty off base when you consider people are suggesting ATH-M50's and VMODA which are equally as low-end heavy. Hell, even the DT-770 250ohm I have on now I find to be pretty heavy on the bass and not far off from the Beats I've tried. In terms of Beats being a fashion brand so is VMODA. Heck, even Sennheiser is trying to get into the fashion/design aspect with the Momentum line which are very different from their other stuff.

Beats and Bose are overpriced, yes, but they're not these awful bad headphones people seem to claim they are.

Do they each have one or two decent products? Sure. Are all of their products terrible? No, not at all. But with the same money, you can get better headphones almost every time. That's the point.
 
Do they each have one or two decent products? Sure. Are all of their products terrible? No, not at all. But with the same money, you can get better headphones almost every time. That's the point.

The Sony MK2 recommended above is $290. The Wireless Studio is $350 and Bose QuietComfort 25 is $299 (Both the two headphones the OP specifically pointed out as reference). We're talking $10 and $60, not $300 price difference.
 

HiResDes

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Sony's kill both in sound quality though. But yeah QC25 specifically not a bad value if you really must have active noise cancelling.
 
Sony's kill both in sound quality though. But yeah QC25 specifically not a bad value if you really must have active noise cancelling.

I understand that, but I feel like people have this immediate reaction of negativity to the brands Bose and Beats. I do not like them as products either. But if someone really wanted Beats I wouldn't tell them they're buying "diarrhea" for a product.
 

BossLackey

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I understand that, but I feel like people have this immediate reaction of negativity to the brands Bose and Beats. I do not like them as products either. But if someone really wanted Beats I wouldn't tell them they're buying "diarrhea" for a product.

You're taking this way too seriously.
 

Deadstar

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Sony's kill both in sound quality though. But yeah QC25 specifically not a bad value if you really must have active noise cancelling.

This might be a stupid question but are there any benefits to having headphones without noise cancelling? Better air flow inside the cups or anything like that?
 
This might be a stupid question but are there any benefits to having headphones without noise cancelling? Better air flow inside the cups or anything like that?

In my experience noise cancelling was nice for traveling but overall sound quality wasn't great. Further I almost always had some kind of white noise feedback going on when they were engaged. On top of this, and this is changing, most require them to be powered on in order to work. So if you're batteries dies you were SOL on using them until you got new batteries.
 

Timedog

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lol, I thought this was a joke thread, or a which one is worst? thread.

I have little experience with either brand though. I'm guessing its the same with most of the haters of these brands online too.
 
That's such a vague question, do you realize how many Sennheiser headphones there are? Also various headphones have different utilities, Are we talking closed or open headphones? Portable or home use? Price range? Unamped or amped?

Oh, I was answering the question
with unprovided answers :lol

I tend to go over-the-ear for maximum comfort.
I'm a fan of the Sennheiser HD400 series, HD439s in particular
I also have had a pair of trusty Sony MDR-V6s for about a decade that still sound magical.
 
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