Zeyphersan
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Soooooooooooooo not for me
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Hatred - Reveal & Gameplay Trailer
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You're all for violence and yet this was unnecessary? Why? No one feels shitty when they're killing innocent zombie civilians. They don't know what they're doing since they're brain dead but we massacre them in hordes and say fuck yeah when we see their blood. In comparison, we have regular stupid civilians in this game polluting the world, making it black and white. If anything, everyone should feel worse killing zombies. This guy is bringing peace to the world again by cleansing it of evil.
BLUElightCory
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Their background is not the issue here. The enemy characters in those games are armed and will kill you if they can. I don't think anyone would argue that violence in the context of self defense is justified when there's no other alternative besides them killing you.
This is either poe's law level parody or a truly terrifying post.
ShodanMAN
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If you care about the gaming industry, do not buy this. Games like this are created for controversy and controversy alone. They bring no substance, meaning or reason, other than to feed of the coverage they are most certain to get from anti violent video games media outlets like the Daily Mail and FOX News (The ''no publicity is bad publicity'' approach.) Hoping that they can amass some kind of cult status with the game.
Games like GTA, Manhunt, COD, Dark Souls and the like, have all been targeted by the media outlets I mentioned above. However us gamer's have been able to provide counterarguments to the claims they make. This game will be a giant red marker for them to exploit (and they will.) Looking at this game, it will be very hard for us to come up with rational and counterarguments this time around.
This game will do more harm than good.
Games like GTA, Manhunt, COD, Dark Souls and the like, have all been targeted by the media outlets I mentioned above. However us gamer's have been able to provide counterarguments to the claims they make. This game will be a giant red marker for them to exploit (and they will.) Looking at this game, it will be very hard for us to come up with rational and counterarguments this time around.
This game will do more harm than good.
you have control over whether play those games or not, knowing what they glorify
legacyzero
Banned
Oh heeey it's a joke post. Ya got me.
I really like the top down perspective with detailed graphics and physics.
But the game is dark as black which is obviously intentional.
Giving the current insane events and killings around the world, I can't stomach these themes of hate-based killings.Especially with no humor to it.
But the game is dark as black which is obviously intentional.
Giving the current insane events and killings around the world, I can't stomach these themes of hate-based killings.Especially with no humor to it.
BuggeryBugz
Member
I really hope this game doesn't get released. Fair enough you can do the same thing in GTA but there is a story around it and it's not all running and gunning. This game is wrong in all kinds of ways.
Cave Johnson
Member
I noticed the city background as the character opened the door is actually the Central side of Hong Kong. I feel strange seeing a suburban town at this angle as it is clearly where Kowloon should be at.
thehillissilent
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Postal 1 is on steam and is pretty dead serious. I don't see a reason for this game not to release and if Steam bans it, they are a bunch of hypocrites. The humor came in with Postal 2 & 3. This game is a spiritual successor to Postal 1 with far more realistic graphics.
I honestly don't believe in limits, as far as depictions of violence are concerned in media. You have every right judge this content, but your viewpoint is one I can't relate to.
Edit: Finally got to see the trailer with audio, and I truly wonder if this isn't some dark parody? I can't actually take this remotely seriously, was laughing at his dialog. I'm actually and pretty sure I'll play this now. I am not personally bothered with the depictions of violence I saw, and do enjoy rampages s in open world GTA games. If police or any other armed forces can provide enough resistant, it could be a fun game. Fucked up conceptually? Yes, but it could stil be fun nontheless.
You're judging the scope of the whole game based on a single trailer? At least wait until it's been released, then see what the justification for the violence is.
Anyway, this is an Indie game, releasing solely on the PC. There are a hell of lot of games that are far worse than this one in the indie pc world.
dolabla
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Fatal Futanari
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Lol at everyone getting mad and bring up morals. I'm sure a goooood chunk of people here play shooters. No wonder hardly any devs take creative risks these days.
Anyways, can't wait to play!
Anyways, can't wait to play!
thehillissilent
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I was thinking of Drowning Pool's Let the Bodies Hit The Floor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04F4xlWSFh0
ProvenDeadly
Member
I just skipped 24 pages, is this PC only? Looks hilariously over the top.
The main character's statements are what's really disturbing.
Instantly remind you of the shooting sprees that happen in real life.
Not very pleasant tbh
thehillissilent
Member
Yes, this is PC only. I doubt Sony or Microsoft will have the balls to pick this up.
I don't agree with that. The gaming industry has been in a safe place for awhile now something needs to be questioned and shaken up.
Northeastmonk
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http://fucknovideogames.tumblr.com/...s-a-genocide-simulator-developed-by-neo-nazis
Guys get in here.. we have some things to discuss.
BuggeryBugz
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How is this a creative risk? "How about we make a game where the main character hates life and everyone in it and then kills innocent people". Creative indeed.
Fatal Futanari
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And all the military shooters don't remind you of all the deaths that are happening now?
Please GAF.
Who are you to judge one's creativity?
ieptbarakat
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This looks fun as a game you aren't supposed to take seriously, like Postal 2.
TheBlueBomber
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Let's see how many people ignore this
I amnot talking about the gameplay..
There are far more violent and visceral games including The last of Us for example.
I am talking about the damn characters blatant statements of hating innocent people.Its like GTAV but only with Trevor as the lead.
Looks like a darker version of Postal.
I mean, Postal was already pretty gruesome and dark, but in a "fun" way. Everything was just blown way out of proportion and the humor was pretty twisted. Other NPCs would sometimes insult you, to which you could reply by urinating on them, for example. Plus there was actually a real story (well, rather a succession of mission) and you could always choose if you wanted to behave or just blow it all up and save more time.
Now, this game... I don't know much about it yet so I can't judge. But it looks kinda depressing. Still, I'm not outrage by its existence.
I mean, Postal was already pretty gruesome and dark, but in a "fun" way. Everything was just blown way out of proportion and the humor was pretty twisted. Other NPCs would sometimes insult you, to which you could reply by urinating on them, for example. Plus there was actually a real story (well, rather a succession of mission) and you could always choose if you wanted to behave or just blow it all up and save more time.
Now, this game... I don't know much about it yet so I can't judge. But it looks kinda depressing. Still, I'm not outrage by its existence.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Jesus christ what is that shit...
And why
Needlessly violent and brutal and gross, who is the audience for that
And why
Needlessly violent and brutal and gross, who is the audience for that
thehillissilent
Member
The whole Neo-Nazi thing was debunked earlier in this thread.
Is this a thing now? People aren't allowed to judge other people's creativity? I'd say that's a pretty critical thought process when it comes to entertainment and art.
BuggeryBugz
Member
A person with opinions?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
That's pretty indefensible.
Yet there will be a defense force.
Thanks Holmes, if there was a case you couldn't solve I would be shocked indeed.
Well fuck . . . If true this would kill my interest.
Conkersbadfurday
Member
I'm really not sure what to think. On the one hand, I'm kinda interested in the project and think there could be some strong sociological messages here. At least, this could be the vessel to make a point about culture.
However, the way the developers are talking about the game makes me think they're just trying too hard to be over the top for bonus points or something. They're even referring to the trailer as "propaganda" which is just...lame.
I question the actual gameplay too. I mean, unless comics and the FBI show up to shoot you, this would get boring quickly. Shock and gore can only go so far.
However, the way the developers are talking about the game makes me think they're just trying too hard to be over the top for bonus points or something. They're even referring to the trailer as "propaganda" which is just...lame.
I question the actual gameplay too. I mean, unless comics and the FBI show up to shoot you, this would get boring quickly. Shock and gore can only go so far.
Oh really? And how do you know they're innocent? Have you met these people? If you've ever murdered someone in a game and you didn't know if they were guilty for sure or just following orders, you're murdering innocent people too.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
The gameplay looks great but the premise is a bit questionable. It's going to be an easy scapegoat for the mainstream press and puritans of the world.
GoldandBlue
Member
Well that doesn't make the game seem fun to me. Gameplay is what I'm talking about and it looks pretty boring from that side. For me it's gameplay first, the visual style second, and I guess the graphic quality last. And the visual style (the dark gritty violent stuff) does not appeal to me so I guess I don't really see the appeal of how it looks graphically either.
thehillissilent
Member
We have discussed this in the tread earlier
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134608927&postcount=607
However, the second point about one of the devs Facebook IS up for some discussion.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Did you actually watch the trailer and the dialogue from the main character?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
The shirt was already found to be representing 'cursed soldiers', a Polish movement against stalin/communism on Poland.
SolidSnakex
Member
The part about Jaroslaw is new, and accurate based on his Facebook. And I absolutely wish I didn't click the link to that group that they mentioned. Holy shit!
Oh, I wasn't suggesting that it made it fun. I was just saying that it was surprisingly technically impressive.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I would love to give the benefit of the doubt to these guys and think that maybe they are actually trying to make a statement here, trying to draw attention to the fine line between the "sanctioned" mass violence many people enjoy in many modern games and something truly depraved like this
...but I don't know if I can. This feels like its being played for too much shock value.
...but I don't know if I can. This feels like its being played for too much shock value.
He thinks they're guilty, who are you to disagree?
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