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OS X Yosemite [OT]

Hm... my VPN doesn't seem to be working since updating to Yosemite.

I use it for netflix in other countries but when I do an IP Location it registers as being in the completely wrong country.
 

upandaway

Member
My installation has been stuck on "about a minute remaining" for more than 20 minutes now. Did this seriously freeze? Should I shut it off or is there a safer way to handle this?

edit: okay it just finished. Relief!
 

NekoFever

Member
My installation has been stuck on "about a minute remaining" for more than 20 minutes now. Did this seriously freeze? Should I shut it off or is there a safer way to handle this?

Just let it run and ignore the time estimate. Mine took like an hour to get past 10 minutes remaining on one install, and on Mavericks it even went into negative numbers. It'll finish eventually.

Edit: Ah. Good news.
 

robox

Member
the dashboard and widgets totally got left out in the ui overhaul. still using lots of gloss and bevel


anybody else use that? i only use it for world clock and weather



edit: this prompted me to go and find out about notification center widgets. notif center will be getting used now. i always ignored the notif center before yos, and if i ever opened it, it was by accident.
 

NekoFever

Member
the dashboard and widgets totally got left out in the ui overhaul. still using lots of gloss and bevel


anybody else use that? i only use it for world clock and weather

I doubt it's long for this world and wouldn't be surprised to see it disappear in 10.11. There's now an option to turn it off, after all, and it's off by default. Plus Apple doesn't seem to be putting any effort into it.

I used it from Tiger right through Mavericks, but in the end only for Delivery Status and the dictionary. I can get basically all the dictionary functionality through triple-clicking and Spotlight, and DS is now an app with a Notification Center widget, so I disabled it.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Indeed. As much as I liked Dashboard, it's sort of redundant. Apple never continued supporting it, web objects weren't the future as everything thought they would be (remember when the iPhone did have an app store?) and most useful items migrated out of it—to notification center, to the menu bar (iStat Pro), to another app.

Every widget I use now is the Apple-supplied ones: calendar, weather, dictionary, calculator. I'll be sad if they're gone but it won't be a huge loss.
 

Ambitious

Member
the dashboard and widgets totally got left out in the ui overhaul. still using lots of gloss and bevel


anybody else use that? i only use it for world clock and weather

I doubt it's long for this world and wouldn't be surprised to see it disappear in 10.11. There's now an option to turn it off, after all, and it's off by default. Plus Apple doesn't seem to be putting any effort into it.

I used it from Tiger right through Mavericks, but in the end only for Delivery Status and the dictionary. I can get basically all the dictionary functionality through triple-clicking and Spotlight, and DS is now an app with a Notification Center widget, so I disabled it.

Still using it for weather and also Delivery Status. Is there a useful weather widget for the Notification Center available yet? The Dashboard widget is pretty much perfect - current temperature plus 7-day forecast (highs and lows). The built-in NC widget just displays the current temperature and nothing else.

It's just a matter of time until the Dashboard is gone. I'm quite surprised they still included it in Yosemite. It's a shame, though. You can make use of your whole screen with Dashboard, while NC is just a vertical list. So at some point, one will have to scroll to actually find the widget they're looking for. Which is contrary to the idea of widgets - quick access to information at a glance, without disrupting one's current workflow.
 

robox

Member
Still using it for weather and also Delivery Status. Is there a useful weather widget for the Notification Center available yet? The Dashboard widget is pretty much perfect - current temperature plus 7-day forecast (highs and lows). The built-in NC widget just displays the current temperature and nothing else.

It's just a matter of time until the Dashboard is gone. I'm quite surprised they still included it in Yosemite. It's a shame, though. You can make use of your whole screen with Dashboard, while NC is just a vertical list. So at some point, one will have to scroll to actually find the widget they're looking for. Which is contrary to the idea of widgets - quick access to information at a glance, without disrupting one's current workflow.

you can click on the weather item to expand it. then you get the iOS style interface with hourly and daily forecast.

and ya, with the dashboard, you get the whole screen for things. (though it does suck for not locking things to a grid so things are off by some odd number of pixels.) my notif widgets list is scrolly as i've loaded up all my usual
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
So two quick questions, and I haven't had a chance to read through the topic so don't know if anyone else has.

Firstly, Notification sounds, is anyone else having issues with the sound off button not actually working? Transmission for whatever reason continues to play what has to be the most annoying ping, the settings wont turn it off and I can't see any way to change the noise, the only solution being to just mute my Macbook completely.

Secondly, hidden files on usb drives, any way to stop Yosemite making them? I can't remember what I did before but at some point I managed to stop Mavericks messing with my external drives which made moving from different operating systems a lot less annoying. But I can't remember how I did that and a quick search lead me to supposed ways to do it on Mavericks again that I don't know will have an effect on Yosemite.

So yea, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Indeed. As much as I liked Dashboard, it's sort of redundant. Apple never continued supporting it, web objects weren't the future as everything thought they would be (remember when the iPhone did have an app store?) and most useful items migrated out of it—to notification center, to the menu bar (iStat Pro), to another app.

Every widget I use now is the Apple-supplied ones: calendar, weather, dictionary, calculator. I'll be sad if they're gone but it won't be a huge loss.

I've gotten used to the notification centers calculator a lot quicker than the dashboard

I can see it being killed in the next major update, i think that's pretty obvious now
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
I haven't used Dashboard in years. But I love the shit out of the Widget Sidebar. I set it to a trackpad gesture. I can't wait for more to show up. I just wish they'd make it wider optionally. If I had the option I'd have the sidebar show notifications and have the rest of the screen area blur out and show nicely ordered rearrangeable widgets that look like what they do now but filling out the remaining screen space.

As I've said before, if and when Bjango puts out an iStat Menus update with Widget support, it will be fucking glorious. Imagine their Dashboard Widget, but better. In fact, when I used Dashboard, iStat was the only thing I even used before I disabled it forever.

Dashboard will be killed off, probably by 10.11. Just enough time for current DB widget creators (If they still exist) to release replacements.

Question for developers; do sidebar widgets require App Store support, or can any signed application have them? Because I doubt iStats would be allowed to be on the App Store with all the amounts of system data it is able to record every few seconds. (Like my god there's so much data being recorded for up to 7 days worth of time.) And if they can't make a Widget, it'd be sad.

As for calculator, I literally never open the Calculator application and don't bother with the widget. I just use Spotlight for small math calculations.
 

mug

Member
Hm... my VPN doesn't seem to be working since updating to Yosemite.

I use it for netflix in other countries but when I do an IP Location it registers as being in the completely wrong country.
What client are you using? I'm assuming it's an SSL VPN service?
 
Having the weirdest issue. I'm sure someone on GAF has seen this before, but I haven't:

2011 MBP.

Occasionally and unpredictably (for reasons I have yet to determine), OSX will stop properly interacting with my trackpad. When mousing over the Dock with the trackpad, the icons do not move...but mousing over them with an external mouse produces normal results. If I right-click the desktop with the track pad it briefly opens the right-click menu then closes it most of the time. when it does open, options I mouse over do not highlight. Using the external mouse provides normal results. Even mousing over shit like GAF names and page number links while using the trackpad don't change to the active link finger. As soon as i use the external mouse, again...things are perfectly normal. Double tapping to drag doesn't work. Etc.

Issue resolves itself upon reboot.

It's really just an annoyance, but it's never been an issue before. I've tried PRAM resets, checking the LaunchDameons and System Preferences for older apps that may be causing some sort of trackpad confusion but haven't found any suspects.
 

mollipen

Member
Is anyone having issues typing into documents on Google Drive under Safari on Yosemite? I'm having some crazy text issues, such as some letters just not coming out when typing, the curser getting confused, losing the ability to replace text by highlighting currently-existing text and typing, and so on.
 

Sch1sm

Member
Is anyone having issues typing into documents on Google Drive under Safari on Yosemite? I'm having some crazy text issues, such as some letters just not coming out when typing, the curser getting confused, losing the ability to replace text by highlighting currently-existing text and typing, and so on.

Neither have happened to me.
 

sruckus

Member
Anyone else have Safari not keeping you logged into sites? I swear I ran into this before and it was one more annoyance that drove me back to Chrome.
 

Pastry

Banned
I'm having tonnnnsss of wifi issues. My friend's 6 year old Macbook gets better speeds on my network than my one year old MBP does.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Dashboard's concept was great. But its execution, like all the other Widget systems like the short-lived Vista Gadgets and Konfabulator, was terrible in that there were no guidelines for UI. So everyone made them look how they wanted. And a lot of them, a fuckload of them, looked like shit. Terrible horrible shit. And even all of Apple's had different UIs for each Widget. None of them looked the same. It was Skeuomorphism at its worst. I always preferred to make my own because at least I could make them all look the same for me. I couldn't stand using stock Widgets. Dashboard/Gadget Sidebar/Konfabulator were the definition of clusterfuck.

Yosemite and iOS Widgets are so much better because Apple laid down some guidelines that hopefully people will follow when making them.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Dashboard's concept was great. But its execution, like all the other Widget systems like the short-lived Vista Gadgets and Konfabulator, was terrible in that there were no guidelines for UI. So everyone made them look how they wanted. And a lot of them, a fuckload of them, looked like shit. Terrible horrible shit. And even all of Apple's had different UIs for each Widget. None of them looked the same. It was Skeuomorphism at its worst. I always preferred to make my own because at least I could make them all look the same for me. I couldn't stand using stock Widgets. Dashboard/Gadget Sidebar/Konfabulator were the definition of clusterfuck.

Yosemite and iOS Widgets are so much better because Apple laid down some guidelines that hopefully people will follow when making them.

Well, I remember people went gaga for widgets too. Lava lamps and tiki torches and bobbleheads and lots of random stuff. I remember being shocked and appalled by the screenshots in Macworld from the editors' desktops. Was just a bit of the times, just like aqua had its place (and I'd say still looks good in its mature variations, still better than anything Microsoft has put out in the meantime.)

It's kind of interesting what vestigial parts of OS X there are, though. New features that sort of disappeared. Expose is greatly minimized, Spaces has been nerfed by the changes to fullscreen, Dashboard is the appendix, Automator never seemed to catch on, Front Row died in a period of two or three years, really...

EDIT:

Holy crap. Fast user switching still does the cube transform effect. Don't think I've seen that since I used it all the time as a novelty back in 2004 on my parents' PowerMac G5.
 

mrkgoo

Member
Well, I remember people went gaga for widgets too. Lava lamps and tiki torches and bobbleheads and lots of random stuff. I remember being shocked and appalled by the screenshots in Macworld from the editors' desktops. Was just a bit of the times, just like aqua had its place (and I'd say still looks good in its mature variations, still better than anything Microsoft has put out in the meantime.)

It's kind of interesting what vestigial parts of OS X there are, though. New features that sort of disappeared. Expose is greatly minimized, Spaces has been nerfed by the changes to fullscreen, Dashboard is the appendix, Automator never seemed to catch on, Front Row died in a period of two or three years, really...

EDIT:

Holy crap. Fast user switching still does the cube transform effect. Don't think I've seen that since I used it all the time as a novelty back in 2004 on my parents' PowerMac G5.

I actually like dashboard and use it. But I agree it's old fashioned and kind of obsolete.

I liked being able to access it wth a gesture (no I don't use BTT), and with full screen OSX the only way to keep doing so was have dashboard as a desktop, which isn't all that ideal.

Not sure if notification panel is a whole lot better, but at least it's one step to keeping the concept alive.
 

itsinmyveins

Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
Right, I'm having issues turning imessages off on my Macbook. I keep on getting them, even though handoff isn't active and I'm fairly sure I turned off imessages in the app. I can't say for sure because it won't let me open settings in the app – it's just greyed off :/
 

kehs

Banned
So expose/mission control have gotten really really laggy on my 13" mba.

=( One of my favorite parts of os x.


sidenote: fuck this frosted glass blend in the background into my right click menus thing. Can I turn this off?
 

Futureman

Member
Does Chrome really kill battery life on a MBP? I think I read that on here and it would be enough for me to give Safari a shot again.
 

NekoFever

Member
The built-in NC widget just displays the current temperature and nothing else.

Click it.

weather_widget_sync_with_ios_weather_app.png
 

Irminsul

Member
How is Finder on Yosemite?

Since Mavericks, it's been a horrible piece of crap for me many times, like when it randomly decides to sort files by some arbitrary criterion in column mode instead of by name like I want it to. Ah, and grouping by type used to let me display folders at the top, but now groups including folders are alphabetically sorted by the group's English name regardless of the system language. What the fuck.

Is any of this fixed in Yosemite? That alone would probably get me to update, because honestly, Finder is driving me insane.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
How is Finder on Yosemite?

Since Mavericks, it's been a horrible piece of crap for me many times, like when it randomly decides to sort files by some arbitrary criterion in column mode instead of by name like I want it to. Ah, and grouping by type used to let me display folders at the top, but now groups including folders are alphabetically sorted by the group's English name regardless of the system language. What the fuck.

Is any of this fixed in Yosemite? That alone would probably get me to update, because honestly, Finder is driving me insane.

View > View Finder Options is where the Finder's preferences for opening up views and how they're sorted by default are.
 

Irminsul

Member
View > View Finder Options is where the Finder's preferences for opening up views and how they're sorted by default are.
But that isn't the problem, which is why I said "randomly". If I select a different folder from the one where the sorting is messed up and then go back again, it's sorted correctly.
 

upandaway

Member
How is Finder on Yosemite?

Since Mavericks, it's been a horrible piece of crap for me many times, like when it randomly decides to sort files by some arbitrary criterion in column mode instead of by name like I want it to. Ah, and grouping by type used to let me display folders at the top, but now groups including folders are alphabetically sorted by the group's English name regardless of the system language. What the fuck.

Is any of this fixed in Yosemite? That alone would probably get me to update, because honestly, Finder is driving me insane.
I had that glitch too, Yosemite fixed it as far as I can tell (feels refreshing to say the least!). It also fixed the issue where if I try to play an mp3 from column mode, it finishes, and I click it again, it plays it with no sound.

It did however introduce a new glitch where in Kind sort on Column view, color-marked files look weird (until you re-color one file and it fixes itself, until next time you go in the folder). Doesn't happen in any other view or with any other sort. Just a bit annoying.
 

PSYGN

Member
So expose/mission control have gotten really really laggy on my 13" mba.

=( One of my favorite parts of os x.


sidenote: fuck this frosted glass blend in the background into my right click menus thing. Can I turn this off?

Why is it laggy now? Even when I have only a few apps running, it stutters. I'm using a 2013 MBP, and this shouldn't be happening.
 
Still can't get Continuity to work... Unsure why. I have 2 Macs, and while my 2012 Mac Mini might not support it (although the option is there in the settings...), my 2013 MacBook Air certainly should. I have all of the settings turned on correctly and can't get it to do anything. If I open Safari on my iPhone (8.1 w/ everything turned on), it doesn't do the Continuity icon ever, at all.

I dunno. I wouldn't really use it, but w/e.

How is Finder on Yosemite?

Since Mavericks, it's been a horrible piece of crap for me many times, like when it randomly decides to sort files by some arbitrary criterion in column mode instead of by name like I want it to. Ah, and grouping by type used to let me display folders at the top, but now groups including folders are alphabetically sorted by the group's English name regardless of the system language. What the fuck.

Is any of this fixed in Yosemite? That alone would probably get me to update, because honestly, Finder is driving me insane.

As far as I can tell, Finder has no noticeable improvements and any seeming improvements were a coincidence. Same bizarre forgetful attitude where you wil SWEAR you set a folder to be a certain way, same arbitrary sorting method that you SWEAR you never set. I wish that Finder's sort by type was the same as Windows, with Folders going at the top, instead of it sorting by type and then arranging them alphabetically by type. Hate that. I hate having CSS -> Folders -> JS -> PHP when working on an average project. I just want folders at the damn top.

Hey but at least they spent time on colorful tags 2 releases ago ... a feature I've yet to use.

Does anybody actually use tags in OS X? Like,a side from the initial novelty.
 

br3wnor

Member
Installed yesterday, and really liking it so far. Safari seems a lot slicker and faster but part of that is probably just the new look of it. I was using Chrome the past few months but I think I'll stick with Safari now.

I have a 2011 MBA so I can't use continuity but the SMS texting works great. Really nice to be able to message people w/out iPhones from my computer which I'm on a lot during the day with school and work so it makes it a lot more convenient.

Overall love the new look of everything, a lot cleaner and more in touch w/ my iPhone and iPad (which was obviously Apple's desire). Glad I upgraded and look forward to all the little improvements I'm sure to notice over the next few weeks.
 

upandaway

Member
I use colored tags a lot, mostly because of Hazel (it can listen to a folder and execute rules on files that are a certain color). Really useful and fast.

Otherwise I just use them as bookmarks in folders I need to go through, mark a file to know that's where I stopped.
 
Just ran into a little hitch...

Had a bunch of calls to make so decided to do them all through my Mac, which worked great until I got to one of those 'press 2 now for...' options where I realised you can't pull up a keypad whilst calling on a Mac.

I had to push the call back to my phone which immediately less cool haha
 

Number45

Member
Just ran into a little hitch...

Had a bunch of calls to make so decided to do them all through my Mac, which worked great until I got to one of those 'press 2 now for...' options where I realised you can't pull up a keypad whilst calling on a Mac.

I had to push the call back to my phone which immediately less cool haha
Did just pressing 2 not work?
 
Still can't get Continuity to work... Unsure why. I have 2 Macs, and while my 2012 Mac Mini might not support it (although the option is there in the settings...), my 2013 MacBook Air certainly should. I have all of the settings turned on correctly and can't get it to do anything. If I open Safari on my iPhone (8.1 w/ everything turned on), it doesn't do the Continuity icon ever, at all.

I dunno. I wouldn't really use it, but w/e.



As far as I can tell, Finder has no noticeable improvements and any seeming improvements were a coincidence. Same bizarre forgetful attitude where you wil SWEAR you set a folder to be a certain way, same arbitrary sorting method that you SWEAR you never set. I wish that Finder's sort by type was the same as Windows, with Folders going at the top, instead of it sorting by type and then arranging them alphabetically by type. Hate that. I hate having CSS -> Folders -> JS -> PHP when working on an average project. I just want folders at the damn top.

Hey but at least they spent time on colorful tags 2 releases ago ... a feature I've yet to use.

Does anybody actually use tags in OS X? Like,a side from the initial novelty.

Have you tried using AirDrop to send a file between your phone and MacBook? I had to do that to get it to work on my retina MacBook and ever since its been working the way it should. All I did was AirDrop a picture from my iPhone to my Mac and then tried Handoff again and I was good to go.
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
So why can't i open up spotlight and type "call Marion" and actually place a call?

Edit: And wifi got fucked again on booth my imac and macbook. For shame apple.
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
So why can't i open up spotlight and type "Metallica Master of puppets" and actually play music from my itunes library instead of within spotlight?
It gives me itunes search so i can buy an album i already have, but not play it in itunes :/
 
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