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[themidnightsun156]

i remember a few years ago people were begging for an asscreed game set during the french revolution, they got it, so a game set in feudal japan is probably going to happen, especially when you release games from the same franchise every year that uses historical locations, there are only so many places you can go

 

[Jachaos]

Feudal Japan would be amazing, I don't think it'd be over familiar too. It's been a long while since I played an open-world game with that setting, if ever. India, meh. Far Cry 4 has that atmosphere. I don't want India anymore.

Also, WWII shooters. Brothers in Arms. It's been almost a decade since this has stopped being a thing and now no one wants to do them anymore. I can understand that point of view, but at this point a Feudal Japan AC and WWII BF would feel fresh.

 

[Thug Waffle]

More than anything, I just wish they stopped making AC games and moved on to a new IP. I've never found a franchise so bland, repetitive, and easy (way too easy) while still believing that the core ideas of a good game are tucked away in there. It's really a shame considering what AC came from. Feudal Japan, Egypt, whatever... they all sound great, but I just know trying to experience that period through AC would be a grind fest. I can't take any more of the same mission design, the same button-mashing near-invulnerability, the same unrefined movement controls (there are little things that need to be tweaked and have never been addressed... c'mon Ubisoft).

Prince of Persia, you are missed.

Oh, it that so? As a setting for games, I'd say it's pretty damn rare. Unless you're aware of a lot of games I'm not.

Go on, list them. I'll wait.

sup with that 'tude brah?

 

[Stardust_Comet]

Oh, it that so? As a setting for games, I'd say it's pretty damn rare. Unless you're aware of a lot of games I'm not.

Go on, list them. I'll wait.

Just going off with ones I can semi remember here.

Liberty or Death
Battle Grounds 2 (don't really know of Battle Grounds 1 is set elsewhere or not)
Sons of Liberty
Empire: Total War
The Patriot
Children of Liberty
Europa Universalis IV (I think this may not be the entire setting of the game but I'm not 100% sure there)

As I'm listing these, I am noticing most of these are pretty old for games. I'm certain only one or two of them are post-2010, and half of them were at least in the 90's.

I can remember more games were set in that era when I was younger but I can't remember their names too well by now. It may look rare because it's just not used as a setting as much nowdays.

 

[m_shortpants]

Somebody here on GAF suggested a long time ago having an Assassins Creed game take place in wartime Nazi Germany. Now Ass Creed usually bores the crap out of me for some strange reason that's beyond me.

But I would play the SHIT out of a Nazi Germany themed Assassins Creed game, fo' sho.

Last mission - kill Hitler but make it look like a suicide. Tragic ending involves killing Hitlers gf to make it convincing.

 

[m_shortpants]

British Raj setting sounds great to me! I don't think it's been explored much in Western Cinema, apart from the movie Gandhi.

You could have Templars inciting Hindu-Muslim violence. Might be a bit controversial though. AC1 tried to keep religion ambiguous for the most part.

Edit: sorry for dp I'm dumb

 

[gogosox82]

Sounds like he hasn't even done the research. You would have so much time to place a story in Feudal Japan since Feudal Japan lasted several hundred years unlike something like the Revolutionary War that was a separate event that only last for 8-10 years. There are literally like 8 or 9 different eras in Japan you could use so its just lazy to say "its been done before" because it hasn't. Personally, I think China, Egypt, or Korea very interesting to set a game in.

 

[Superflat]

I've yet to see a meticulously created feudal Japan that actually feels like you're in the world. The closest I've seen were unlocalized Yakuza games that hardly anyone in the west experienced.

Most games that use old Japan as a location were incredibly limited or looked like stereotypical, cheaply made sets than anything resembling real locations.

Don't much care if AC uses the location or time period because I'm not a fan of the series, but I'm still waiting for that lusciously created AAA world set in East Asia that feels authentic. Sleeping Dogs is the closest it's gotten.

 

[Usobuko]

I don't want it to be feudal Japan either, other countries like Egypt, China are more interesting to me.

But I don't buy AC games anymore so w/e.

 

[~~Hasan~~]

well. they wont do it because if they try, the guy in the game will be the worse samurai or ninja ever. AC movement doesn't fit the movement of a ninja. or the fight style of a samurai

Which I think its the only reason they didn't go for yet.

 

[Stardust_Comet]

well. they wont do it because if they try, the guy in the game will be the worse samurai or ninja ever. AC movement doesn't fit the movement of a ninja. or the fight style of a samurai

Which I think its the only reason they didn't go for yet.

Too bad they didn't use a reasoning like this. There are logical reasons for why they're not going to set a game in that period. Or they could have been smart and not answer it, just instead say "there are other places and time periods we have already decided on doing on first. We can't say because you will have to wait until those games come out to find out. But a Feudal Japan will not be in the discussion as a setting for a while."

 

[KHlover]

Shit ,I was all for it before, but he's right, AC is one of the only franchises that explore lesser known time periods, and I wouldn't want to lose that aspect.

Crusades? Renaissance? Independence War?
How are these "lesser known time periods"?

 

[Jazzkokehead]

]sup with that 'tude brah?

No 'tude, brah - just saying, as before, that I think Ubisoft has done pretty well overall in terms of featuring time periods that are typically not explored in games, especially when compared to most other developers. And for all the flaws of Ubisoft's games, I can at least respect them for using settings that not many have touched so far.

If we're going to really criticize Ubisoft, let's let it be for issues such as their repetitive open-world game design, unwillingness to include playable female characters, or strange explanations to justify 30 FPS games.

 

[ambientric]

My vote has always been for Ancient Rome, beginning with you assassinating Caesar, concluding with your assassination of Marc Antony in Egypt.

 

[The Antitype]

My vote has always been for Ancient Rome, beginning with you assassinating Caesar, concluding with your assassination of Marc Antony in Egypt.

They could do it if they want. We already know that in AC lore, Brutus was an Assassin. Ezio found his armor, and we know that he had a piece of Eden and used it to strengthen the armor.

The problem is, according to the writings, Brutus was so conflicted about what he had done, that he hid his armor and quit the assassination gig. But they could always retconn that a bit, by pulling an AC3 and having you start the game as Brutus, then taking on the role of a younger character that Brutus begrudgingly teaches.

 

[Stardust_Comet]

They could do it if they want. We already know that in AC lore, Brutus was an Assassin. Ezio found his armor, and we know that he had a piece of Eden and used it to strengthen the armor.

The problem is, according to the writings, Brutus was so conflicted about what he had done, that he hid his armor and quit the assassination gig. But they could always retconn that a bit, by pulling an AC3 and having you start the game as Brutus, then taking on the role of a younger character that Brutus begrudgingly teaches.

Or they could make the game about Brutus' life as an assassin (since we don't know how long that was) up until the game's end where he gives up.

 

[The Antitype]

Or they could make the game about Brutus' life as an assassin (since we don't know how long that was) up until the game's end where he gives up.

They definitely could, I was just thinking in terms of a game that went from Caeser's death to the death of Marc Anthony

 

[Stardust_Comet]

They definitely could, I was just thinking in terms of a game that went from Caeser's death to the death of Marc Anthony

Ah yes, that would most likely be the case then in that scenario.

 

[ambientric]

Or they could make the game about Brutus' life as an assassin (since we don't know how long that was) up until the game's end where he gives up.

I assumed after finishing assassins creed 2, Ancient Rome would be the next step. I played brotherhood hoping for a time shift between 15th century and BC, each time I ran about the forum ruins was a kick in the balls. Moving to the American Revolution and pirates bored me to tears (subjective of course).

On the plus side looking forward to Paris, the French Revolution was a fascinating period, hoping the Cult of Reason makes an appearance.

 

[Dark_castle]

I've yet to see a meticulously created feudal Japan that actually feels like you're in the world. The closest I've seen were unlocalized Yakuza games that hardly anyone in the west experienced.

Most games that use old Japan as a location were incredibly limited or looked like stereotypical, cheaply made sets than anything resembling real locations.

Don't much care if AC uses the location or time period because I'm not a fan of the series, but I'm still waiting for that lusciously created AAA world set in East Asia that feels authentic. Sleeping Dogs is the closest it's gotten.

Jade Empire.

 

[KHlover]

Jade Empire.

That's clearly inspired by China, isn't it? Not by Japan

 

[Rhaknar]

All those ninja games in japan we had these last 10 years right guys?

wait... what was the last one that would even resemble a asian Creed game? Tenchu on ps2?

 

[Nestunt]

I probably would like it (because of my personal love for that period and setting)

But I would much prefer for a Miyazaki take on that

 

[Solaire of Astora]

More than anything, I just wish they stopped making AC games and moved on to a new IP. I've never found a franchise so bland, repetitive, and easy (way too easy) while still believing that the core ideas of a good game are tucked away in there. It's really a shame considering what AC came from. Feudal Japan, Egypt, whatever... they all sound great, but I just know trying to experience that period through AC would be a grind fest. I can't take any more of the same mission design, the same button-mashing near-invulnerability, the same unrefined movement controls (there are little things that need to be tweaked and have never been addressed... c'mon Ubisoft).

Prince of Persia, you are missed.

10/10.

Assassin's creed (and pretty much everything else Ubi make) is an extremely interesting idea smothered by crap, repetitive gameplay and game design. What a shame.

Sometimes I wish Ubi would put me in charge of an AC game. Give me a sensible schedule, let me rip up the Ubi play book and start from scratch. Sure, I have no fucking experience, but it doesn't really matter as it will still sell a billion copies by virtue of having the AC name on the box.

At least listen to a fucking pitch.

Spoiler

I know that this would never happen, but what the hell. Yves will no doubt read this anyway.

 

[Stardust_Comet]

I assumed after finishing assassins creed 2, Ancient Rome would be the next step. I played brotherhood hoping for a time shift between 15th century and BC, each time I ran about the forum ruins was a kick in the balls. Moving to the American Revolution and pirates bored me to tears (subjective of course).

On the plus side looking forward to Paris, the French Revolution was a fascinating period, hoping the Cult of Reason makes an appearance.

I was thinking the same thing too because of Desmond running around the Colosseum, and the switch over to the American Revolution was weird to me.

Just hoping for Unity now to not screw up with interaction with people important in the French Revolution, like they did with any important figure in AC3 (come on Ubi, you know people would have eaten up the idea of the Founding Fathers of the US working with the assassins. Why didn't you do it? One scene or two scenes where they assign a mission is wasted potential.)

 

[Pyccko]

I still just want a game set in that (AC2 spoiler)

Spoiler

weird techno-future-past first civilization Eden place.

I'm kind of sick of the historical bent. I want some proper sci-fi.

 

[takriel]

Shit, I've never played an AC game before, but a setting in ancient Egypt would totally make me buy that game!

 

[Mogwai]

Great. Now someone needs to updates the "X days since someone at Ubisoft said something dumb" sign.

Haha yeah. I think we need a sticky thread. It would probably read something like "1 days since" constantly.

As long as Ubisoft doesn't pull a boring grey slump like AC3 again, I'm fine with whatever they decide to do. The whole Asian ninja/samurai thing could be cool. But the combat system still feels a bit broken for that. Perhaps WB should just reskin an Arkham game and make that a feudal Japan samurai game...

 

[OG Loc]

Ubisoft... 1930s Cairo. Like Indiana Jones, yeah? It'd work SO well. C'mon. Just... Move on from 1700s west-based settings. It's already starting to get really, really boring.

AssCreed in 1970s NYC

MBISONYES.GIF

Or give me an Assassins Creed set in Washington D.C. during the height of the Cold War. I want that.

 

[wrowa]

Somebody here on GAF suggested a long time ago having an Assassins Creed game take place in wartime Nazi Germany. Now Ass Creed usually bores the crap out of me for some strange reason that's beyond me.

But I would play the SHIT out of a Nazi Germany themed Assassins Creed game, fo' sho.

The Saboteur was kinda like that.

 

[Moff]

I would love a new tenchu

 

[Dead Man]

So Sengoku Japan is a theme that's been well-mined in video games? Versus:

-The Crusades
-The American Revolution
-The Age of Pirates

Excuse me

I need all these Crusades and American Revolution games. I know there are plenty of RTS and strategy games, but action games?

The Saboteur was kinda like that.

That game was so close to greatness. Fucking EA. Still a fantastic game, just unfinished.

I would love a new tenchu

Fuck yes. Haven't enjoyed one as much as the first, would love a good new one.

 

[The Antitype]

More than anything, I just wish they stopped making AC games and moved on to a new IP. I've never found a franchise so bland, repetitive, and easy (way too easy) while still believing that the core ideas of a good game are tucked away in there. It's really a shame considering what AC came from. Feudal Japan, Egypt, whatever... they all sound great, but I just know trying to experience that period through AC would be a grind fest. I can't take any more of the same mission design, the same button-mashing near-invulnerability, the same unrefined movement controls (there are little things that need to be tweaked and have never been addressed... c'mon Ubisoft).

Prince of Persia, you are missed.

They'll probably stop cranking them out when AC stops ranking in the top 3 selling games every year.

It's kind of hard to say 'Let's just walk away from these hundreds of millions of dollars'.

In Ubi's defense, it hasn't really stopped them from doing new things.

They did just launch Watch Dogs, a brand new IP, they're still working on The Divison, they're finally bringing back Rainbow Six, and they've completely rejuvenated the Far Cry series with a new vibe/direction. Hard to begrudge them a consistent stream of insane income, when they're using at least some of it to do all that.

Even harder when you consider, once upon a time, Assassin's Creed WAS one of those crazy, 'are you serious, you want to do WHAT?!' ideas. It took a lot of faith and even more balls for Ubisoft to put the money and marketing that they did behind a project that weird and ambitious.

 

[Stardust_Comet]

Even harder when you consider, once upon a time, Assassin's Creed WAS one of those crazy, 'are you serious, you want to do WHAT?!' ideas. It took a lot of faith and even more balls for Ubisoft to put the money and marketing that they did behind a project that weird and ambitious.

Ah, I remember those days. Back when you can tell people that you like the AC games and you wouldn't be met with ridicule or "wtf do you like those games for? I thought you had taste!".

 

[Zoned]

Assassins Creed India please.

I would prefer India though. Visiting Taj mahal and ancient Delhi streets would be great.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

Well boy have I got the game for you

thesabotuer.jpg

Awesome game. Too bad more people didn't play it.

 

[MattKeil]

I can't recall the last game I played in Feudal Japan, but I sure as hell know the last three games I played with muskets in them, and they all rhymed with Molasses Freed. Sort of.

 

[Jakoozie89]

What's the guy talking about. I've never played a game set to feudal japan. Onimusha/musou games maybe? I don't play them so don't know.

Some games have been inspired by the culture, sure, but that doesn't mean that we've seen a realistic depiction of the time period in a game yet. I totally disagree with this guy.

The funny thing is, I'm sure they'll end up making a feudal japan game. Why? They'll have to sooner or later. Ubi will continue milking this franchise till the end of time, but the problem is that there isn't an infinite number of interesting historical settings.

Unless they're gonnna go the AC2 route and make 3 games set in Paris, they will probably have to cave sooner or later.

 

[xevis]

Just going off with ones I can semi remember here.

Liberty or Death
Battle Grounds 2 (don't really know of Battle Grounds 1 is set elsewhere or not)
Sons of Liberty
Empire: Total War
The Patriot
Children of Liberty
Europa Universalis IV (I think this may not be the entire setting of the game but I'm not 100% sure there)

Here's a few more games featuring colonial America and/or the American Revolution
Birth of America
Colonization (remake, original)
Betrayer
Children of Liberty

Hardly unmined material. Moreover, I would argue the American Revolution is a very common setting for popular media including film and television. Despite growing up Australia, where these events have no cultural significance and are not taught, I can still name lots of major players and events from this period.

 

[The Antitype]

Ah, I remember those days. Back when you can tell people that you like the AC games and you wouldn't be met with ridicule or "wtf do you like those games for? I thought you had taste!".

Honestly, I've never had that reaction. Assassin's Creed seems to be one of those games where even people who don't like it can understand at least some of the appeal. But I mean, most people aren't as openly hostile to other people's tastes face-to-face as they are on GAF. And I don't mean any offense by that, it's a passionate community.

 

[DryvBy]

Japan would feel over-familiar, but Unity's setting isn't? Ok.

 

[Sojgat]

It will happen.

They're keeping it in a glass case somewhere in case of emergency.

 

[The Antitype]

Japan would feel over-familiar, but Unity's setting isn't? Ok.

Can you name another game that takes place in the French Revolution, off the top of your head?

 

[Stardust_Comet]

Here's a few more games featuring colonial America and/or the American Revolution
Birth of America
Colonization (remake, original)
Betrayer
Jamestown
Children of Liberty

Hardly unmined material. Moreover, I would argue the American Revolution is a very common setting for popular media including film and television. Despite growing up Australia, where these events have no cultural significance and are not taught, I can still name lots of major players and events from this period.

I remember Birth of America now that you mentioned it, and thanks!

Yes, that's very true. Also, I remember history class actually mentioning the American Revolution as in "that's why they came over to Australia" too despite them not actually naming other colonies that Australia had interaction with, like the foreign affairs problems with Canada and South Africa for example. (But then it may be the time of when I was back in school, because Australia stopped doing Empire studies in high school a while back.)

 

[airjoca]

You know what? Fuck AC, now that I think about it I'd rather get a feudal Japan free roaming from Rockstar.
Red Dead Samurai or something.

Yes please!

 

[DryvBy]

Can you name another game that takes place in the French Revolution, off the top of your head?

Assassin's Creed II and Unity seem very familiar in atmosphere, not in history. Can you name an Assassin's Creed game (or clone) done in feudal Japan?

 

[Stardust_Comet]

Honestly, I've never had that reaction. Assassin's Creed seems to be one of those games where even people who don't like it can understand at least some of the appeal. But I mean, most people aren't as openly hostile to other people's tastes face-to-face as they are on GAF. And I don't mean any offense by that, it's a passionate community.

It's a standard reaction on gaming communities (because of the passion for games as you've said that applies here). I mean, I can understand why AC is getting less respect now it's getting boring and repetitive in terms of game play and is no longer being "revolutionary" like it once was. I don't really think of it as a bad thing as more of a sign that Ubi needs pull their head out of their arses to fix the problems in their gameplay.

 

[Scrupulous]

I'd take ancient China or Egypt pls ubi since you won't do Japan

 

[120v]

I agree with the guy. feudal japan would be a little too on-the-nose for AC... though i wouldn't close the door on the idea forever

 

[Solaire of Astora]

They did just launch Watch Dogs, a brand new IP, they're still working on The Divison, they're finally bringing back Rainbow Six, and they've completely rejuvenated the Far Cry series with a new vibe/direction. Hard to begrudge them a consistent stream of insane income, when they're using at least some of it to do all that.

The problem is that ubi have a lot of ip with unbelievable potential that they squander by rehashing the same tired, soulless mechanics again and again. How good could assassin's creed be if they actually designed a fun game around, yknow, being an assassin instead of boring tailing/fetch quests and the occasional mass murder. Imagine combining the free running of assassin's creed with the open ended approach to assassinations from the early hitman games and the combat of the Arkham games. Imagine having the choice between barging in the front door and killing everything in sight or scaling a wall, stealthily sneaking around inside the building and planting woman's underwear in your target's home, causing his jealous wife to kill him.

Imagine those two choices and many others in between. Doesn't it sound good?

Enjoy climbing those towers/collecting those pointless collectibles in AC/far cry/the division/watch dogs etc.