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[geordiemp]

Ubisoft is to blame because of their bullshots or PC videos, but some people need to wake up already and stop being so delusional and realize the PS4 is not even close to being a high-end PC, let alone the Xbox One. If you expect CGI graphics ON TOP of 1080/60fps then you're only setting yourself up for extreme dissapointment. Don't expect more than Second Son or your dissapointments from obvious PC builds "downgrades" will ensue. Always assume the game's running on PC until you see direct feed from console and understand already that it's either CGI fidelity - 30fps - below 1080 or slighty better last gen fidelity - 1080 - 60.

All we wanted after a year of development was something that was at least comparable to Ps4 Black Flag, which they pulled together in a hurry for the new console release.

No we don't expect titan performance, just Ps4 performance from a year ago.

 

[MetatronM]

You can look at parts of any screenshot and find issues...the guy in the corner looks like shadows are obstructing his face and hbao is blurring out some details (just like distance and focus does in real life)

Looking at the entire screenshot it looks excellent

So we're just ignoring the giant blurry woman's face smack in the middle of the screenshot?

 

[Turkoop]

This is what their E3 demo looked like:


We got ubishat.

Bro, to see these pictures is so sad..

 

[RoboPlato]

Ubisoft is to blame because of their bullshots or PC videos, but some people need to wake up already and stop being so delusional and realize the PS4 is not even close to being a high-end PC, let alone the Xbox One. If you expect CGI graphics ON TOP of 1080/60fps then you're only setting yourself up for extreme dissapointment. Don't expect more than Second Son or your dissapointments from obvious PC builds "downgrades" will ensue. Always assume the game's running on PC until you see direct feed from console and understand already that it's either CGI fidelity - 30fps - below 1080 or slighty better last gen fidelity - 1080 - 60.

Where are you pulling this from? 30fps won't get you to CG quality and you can still make a game that looks substantially better than last gen at 60.

I also highly doubt anyone was expecting 60fps for ACU. Just a consistent 30 at 1080p on PS4. Since it's 900p, I think people were expecting a lot more in terms of effects, lighting, shadows, etc.

 

[OatmealMu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S9M-R1db7k

 

[Jonm1010]

Where are you pulling this from? 30fps won't get you to CG quality and you can still make a game that looks substantially better than last gen at 60.

His ass.

 

[bananafactory]

Think people forgot what imgur does to screenshots. 900p doesn't look THIS blurry.

It's true. Watch Dogs is 900p on PS4 and it looks miles better than this

 

[Genio88]

Those screenshots must be either taken off-screen or pretty zoomed and compressed, there is no way the game is gonna look that bad on consoles, at least for me.

 

[StevieP]

His ass.

His core message is still correct despite the overuse of hyperbole in a couple of instances

 

[jett]

Think people forgot what imgur does to screenshots. 900p doesn't look THIS blurry.

Imgur doesn't apply a vaseline filter to the screens you upload there either, Yves. The AC4 screens I posted are on imgur and look virtually identical to the ones hosted on Digital Foundry.

 

[vpance]

900p blur + PP Blur AA = high art game. Monet would be proud.

 

[xXBaconXx]

The IQ really is the biggest issue. Hopefully that'll be fixable on PC, but I get the feeling that Unity is going to suffer from the same problem as Alien Isolation and Shadow of Mordor.

 

[allftw]

For the love of God people this is first year for next-gen hardware and you know what games won't look perfect. SS are ok some of them are really nice and beautiful other not so much. Game is huge and scale is really big. Yes they could do many things better but games is fine.

People are right to complain about this. Subpar graphics would be one thing but if the game is as much of a blurry mess as these screens show it's going to be real hard to play. I'm going to get the game regardless but I hope I won't have to ruin my eyes trying to play it.

 

[Carn82]

This is what their E3 demo looked like:


We got ubishat.

Well, I was expecting this ;o

for what it's worth, I've heard rumours through the Ubi-grapevine that it will be Watchdogs-downgradathon again.

Then the 'delay' + the resolutionthing happened to kinda salvage shit..

Well, they`ll never admit it. Game appearently was also heading for WatchDogs downgradaethon; the delay was used to put in a lot of various (worldwide) Ubi-hours to get things right.

Sucks that they pulled this trick again after WD.

 

[Jonm1010]

His core message is still correct despite the overuse of hyperbole in a couple of instances

His core message is arguing straw men.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Leaked PS4 thread: talks about X1 version...nice

par·i·ty
ˈperədē/
noun
1. the state or condition of being equal, especially regarding status or pay.
"parity of incomes between rural workers and those in industrial occupations"
synonyms: equality, equivalence, uniformity, consistency, correspondence, congruity, levelness, unity, coequality
"we strive for a parity of wages"

 

[Wind's Howling]

Digital Foundry is going to be so much fun for this game. The hate that will commence will be phenomenal to watch.

 

[Liamario]

Not buying the game, parity is enough for me to make that decision. The animations from what I originally saw and what I'm seeing now, also took a hit. There is definitely a blurriness to these screens, but the graphics aren't bad.
There definitely has been a downgrade in more than one area.

 

[keltickennedy]

GTAV is gonna kick their ass.
Go R* and show them how to code a open world masterpiece !

Yeah! Burn Ubisoft BURN!!! We won't be able to take good screenshots!!

Let's wait and see how the game actually plays before people start pulling out their pitch forks. Don't get me wrong....chances are it could be just more of the same but I'm being optimistic. They are trying some new things with the structure. Hopefully it's all for the better.



I also hope a bunch of people aren't getting all excited for The Division to look as good as the E3 presentations. lol.

 

[drotahorror]

And I won't have to worry about the game being blurry and low res, cus, ya know.

Cuz you're getting it on PC?

I dunno, pretty underwhelming, perhaps it looks better in motion (DriveClub).

 

[Krisprolls]

Ubisoft is to blame because of their bullshots or PC videos, but some people need to wake up already and stop being so delusional and realize the PS4 is not even close to being a high-end PC, let alone the Xbox One. If you expect CGI graphics ON TOP of 1080/60fps then you're only setting yourself up for extreme dissapointment. Don't expect more than Second Son or your dissapointments from obvious PC builds "downgrades" will ensue. Always assume the game's running on PC until you see direct feed from console and understand already that it's either CGI fidelity - 30fps - below 1080 or slighty better last gen fidelity - 1080 - 60.

I played AC4 and Watch Dogs on PC, it looks basically the same as the PS4 version, except you get stuttering unless you have 4 Gb on your video card. Stop with your PC elitism.

Games like Second Son or Driveclub on PS4 look better than anything released on PC so there's no problem with the hardware.

PS4 hardware has nothing to do with shitty Ubi Graphics. Blame their incompetence and the forced parity.

 

[BeforeJam]

Downgrade + Parity + Xtreme Blur Filter = Ubi what the fuck man. My PS4 is confused. It'll think I put a PS2 disc in.

 

[impact]

Yeah! Burn Ubisoft BURN!!! We won't be able to take good screenshots!!

Let's wait and see how the game actually plays before people start pulling out their pitch forks. Don't get me wrong....chances are it could be just more of the same but I'm being optimistic. They are trying some new things with the structure. Hopefully it's all for the better.

Dude, it's an Assassins Creed game. The gameplay is going to be bad.

 

[jayu26]

Digital Foundry is going to be so much fun for this game. The hate that will commence will be phenomenal to watch.

The hate for whom or what?

 

[SapientWolf]

Yeah! Burn Ubisoft BURN!!! We won't be able to take good screenshots!!

Let's wait and see how the game actually plays before people start pulling out their pitch forks. Don't get me wrong....chances are it could be just more of the same but I'm being optimistic. They are trying some new things with the structure. Hopefully it's all for the better.

So, bait and switch isn't ethical regardless of how good the game plays. If the game actually looks like a YouTube video then there will be pitchforks.

 

[Backfoggen]

Think people forgot what imgur does to screenshots. 900p doesn't look THIS blurry.

Compression is easily distinguishable from blur.

 

[keltickennedy]

Dude, it's an Assassins Creed game. The gameplay is going to be bad.

Dude, it's NeoGAF. Of course the overall consensus is going to be negative. lol.

So, bait and switch isn't ethical regardless of how good the game plays. If the game actually looks like a YouTube video then there will be pitchforks.

I would say if the PC version doesn't look close than it would be a bigger "bait and switch". This isn't a new thing big companies are doing. Especially Ubisoft. The majority of the stuff shown at trade shows are on super powerful PCs with the demo being crafted in a very contained environment.

 

[Wind's Howling]

The hate for whom or what?

The hate for Ubisoft's lack of absolute talent and lies.

 

[krypt0nian]

I'm not sure whether to go for

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Thanks, xbox...

or

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Viva La Parité!



Maybe

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Brought you by the makers of Vaseline

 

[CyberPunked]

This is what their E3 demo looked like:


We got ubishat.

You're comparing PC to console. Even is the only difference was resolution- which it's not as PC version has vastly superior AO, Tessellation, and more than likely higher resolution textures - this still wouldn't be valid as resolution makes a hell of a difference.

 

[PeskyToaster]

ooof. These look horrible. I hope this isn't the final product because it needs some big improvements.

 

[Oni Jazar]

People disgusted by the screens need to realize the difference of scale and density. It's not valid to just throw up a screen of Black Flag and say it looks better.

 

[Chris R]

So disappointed in this game. Had potential too.

Oh well, money better spent elsewhere.

 

[jayu26]

The hate for Ubisoft's lack of absolute talent and lies.

You said commence, as if it's not already (and rightfully) happening. Although I don't agree with lack of talent.

 

[Carn82]

so, what's the damage so far compared to the "E3 demo"?

I see:
- lower res textures
- reduced realtime lighting / shadow effects
- less geometry

Feel free to add/correct

 

[M°°nblade]

His core message is still correct despite the overuse of hyperbole in a couple of instances

You mean the core message that resolution or framerate sacrifices must be made to achieve CGI quality which doesn't apply to this game at all since it's fidelity is worse than launch games that do manage to run in native 1080p?

 

[bishoptl]

Ubisoft is to blame because of their bullshots or PC videos, but some people need to wake up already and stop being so delusional and realize the PS4 is not even close to being a high-end PC, let alone the Xbox One. If you expect CGI graphics ON TOP of 1080/60fps then you're only setting yourself up for extreme dissapointment. Don't expect more than Second Son or your dissapointments from obvious PC builds "downgrades" will ensue. Always assume the game's running on PC until you see direct feed from console and understand already that it's either CGI fidelity - 30fps - below 1080 or slighty better last gen fidelity - 1080 - 60.

Uh, looking strictly at visuals - Second Son is miles ahead of the image quality presented here. No question.

 

[impact]

Dude, it's NeoGAF. Of course the overall consensus is going to be negative. lol.

What a great generalization. I wonder why everyone is so negative about this game?! People seem excited for Dragon Age, Far Cry, Bloodborne, Smash, etc.

 

[iceatcs]

Digital Foundry is going to be so much fun for this game. The hate that will commence will be phenomenal to watch.

I think DF gracefully for this parity, their only life feed. DF will be boring or dying if PS4 win every round when Xbox fans stop visit there.

 

[mxgt]

I played AC4 and Watch Dogs on PC, it looks basically the same as the PS4 version, except you get stuttering unless you have 4 Gb on your video card. Stop with your PC elitism.

Games like Second Son or Driveclub on PS4 look better than anything released on PC so there's no problem with the hardware.

PS4 hardware has nothing to do with shitty Ubi Graphics. Blame their incompetence and the forced parity.

Iwannaseethereceipts.gif

 

[Lord Error]

No, it doesnt. It has full flat buildings 100m away. And thats without even mentioning that shadows on characters in I:SS are not drawn after 50 meters.

Watch this video. There is no other game right now with higher geometry count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nfNA6Ve9-g#t=164

Shadows on characters in AC:U are probably not drawn after 10m distance. In one video of walking through the crowd, shadow popup has been *really* obvious on characters. It was from the leaked XB1 video from about month ago. Generally, the game looked nicer in motion than these screens would suggest, but the LOD issues like that very very visible a lot of times. While ISS has LOD going on as well it was far, far, better handled/hidden than what I've seen in that video.

 

[jayu26]

Uh, looking strictly at visuals - Second Son is miles ahead of the image quality presented here. No question.

Wasn't the Ubisoft guy/girl who wrote in to Giant Bomb claiming that this game looks better than Second Son?

 

[LiK]

Jesus Christ, the hate is too much. Everything Black Flag did right has been completely forgotten by some Gaffers here. I'm so sad.

 

[RoboPlato]

I really am starting to think thay Ubi's assembly line approach to development isn't working out for the coding of their newer engines. They seem to be struggling in areas that several much smaller developers have excelled in.

I think DF gracefully for this parity, their only life feed. DF will be boring or dying if PS4 win every round when Xbox fans stop visit there.

PS3 owners didn't stop visiting last gen.

 

[keltickennedy]

What a great generalization. I wonder why everyone is so negative about this game?! People seem excited for Dragon Age, Far Cry, Bloodborne, Smash, etc.

Okay....so you weren't generalizing that ALL AC games are bad? I was just playing your game man. lol. I get if it's not your cup of tea.

 

[Wind's Howling]

You said commence, as if it's not already (and rightfully) happening.

I know it is already happening. Bad choice of words, I guess. It will inspire "more" hate.

 

[Jonm1010]

You're comparing PC to console. Even is the only difference was resolution- which it's not as PC version has vastly superior AO, Tessellation, and more than likely higher resolution textures - this still wouldn't be valid as resolution makes a hell of a difference.

1.) the nvidia reveal trailer doesn't even seem to match the e3 demo.

2.) you are not addressing the admitted fact that Ubisoft is holding back the ps4 intentionally to reach parity. Even if the best the ps4 can do won't match e3, it can do better then it currently is.

 

[Euron]

I'm not sure whether to go for

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Thanks, xbox...

or

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Viva La Parité!



Maybe

Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Brought you by the makers of Vaseline

I thought it was going to be either Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Viva La Resolution! or Assassin's Creed: Unity [OT] - Res Miserables

I can't believe I fell for it again, I got really excited after Unity's E3 showing and once again, there's a downgrade. Unless FC4 turns out to be a major improvement over FC3, I'm pretty much done with Ubisoft for the time being, which is sad because Black Flag is still my favorite PS4 game that isn't a remaster/port.

 

[thuway]

I'm just "afraid" that what will happen is that people will take the performance results of the PC version running at 1080p and "maxed" settings, which will not look at all like what was posted in this thread, and then complain about "terrible PC performance".

Durante-Kun the bigger issue is just how awful previous Ubisoft ports have been to the PC platform. Do you remember this infamous line of code from Watch Dogs?

 

[impact]

Okay....so you weren't generalizing that ALL AC games are bad? I was just playing your game man. lol. I get if it's not your cup of tea.

I've played AC2, ACB and AC4 and I would say the gameplay is terrible in all three. If you don't believe me I can add you on PSN, I did almost everything in the games besides the garbagio multiplayer.

Considering the gameplay has been bad in all the games leading up to this one, I doubt it's gonna change this time around.