I hope SC's soundtrack is better. FC's was okay but didn't have many standout tracks, they were mostly forgettable and not songs I care to listen to outside the game. Complete opposite of most Ys games, I have a ton of Ys music just on my phone for example.
FC's soundtrack is the weakest in the series by far IMHO, and SC's is one of the strongest. (3rd's is pretty rockin' as well -- I think those two are my personal favorites.)
I still don't think any of the mainline Kiseki soundtracks can really compare to Ys music, though. But SC's probably comes the closest, so you should be pretty pleased with it overall.
...Nayuta no Kiseki, though, can stand toe to toe with Ys music any day of the week. I still say that's one of the best Falcom soundtracks of the last decade. Sofreakinggood...
If you can progress the story enough to actually play the stages, the actual gameplay portions are pretty easy to play and enjoy without any Japanese knowledge... and they are SUPER fun.
Yup. Proper context is just as important as the song itself when it comes to OSTs, and it can help if you hear it for the first time.
I've won the Tournament
and heard the queen's request
so I've actually had the chance to hear Silver Will now. It's easy to see why it's a fan favorite. It feels very Ys'ish compared to all of the other songs in the game, especially when the violin kicks in. I kinda almost thought it was TOO intense for the finals, but with all the hype that the enemy team had behind them and all that was riding on winning this one, I suppose it works well enough. Definitely a highlight of the soundtrack. (Although I've realized hearing it again that you DO briefly hear this song prior to the Tournament, when
Agate and Lawrence fight each other after the orphanage incident. It's hard to really hear a song in a short scene vs. a lengthy boss battle though, so I have my excuse
The final fight was actually pretty easy considering all of the pressure behind it. Olivier used Quick Draw on the group on his first turn when they were bunched up early on and he managed to confuse the leader thanks to the Confuse orbal he had in his orbment. By the time the poor guy managed to shake it off, Team Zane + confused leader had taken out off of the henchment, and he couldn't handle us alone.
But of course this likely won't be the last we've seen of him.
Yup. Proper context is just as important as the song itself when it comes to OSTs, and it can help if you hear it for the first time.
I've won the Tournament
and heard the queen's request
so I've actually had the chance to hear Silver Will now. It's easy to see why it's a fan favorite. It feels very Ys'ish compared to all of the other songs in the game, especially when the violin kicks in. I kinda almost thought it was TOO intense for the finals, but with all the hype that the enemy team had behind them and all that was riding on winning this one, I suppose it works well enough. Definitely a highlight of the soundtrack. (Although I've realized hearing it again that you DO briefly hear this song prior to the Tournament, when
Agate and Lawrence fight each other after the orphanage incident. It's hard to really hear a song in a short scene vs. a lengthy boss battle though, so I have my excuse
The final fight was actually pretty easy considering all of the pressure behind it. Olivier used Quick Draw on the group on his first turn when they were bunched up early on and he managed to confuse the leader thanks to the Confuse orbal he had in his orbment. By the time the poor guy managed to shake it off, Team Zane + confused leader had taken out off of the henchment, and he couldn't handle us alone.
But of course this likely won't be the last we've seen of him.
I feel that I should also point out that Zane is a monster of a tank. Ever since I've gotten him, my main strategy for starting off big fights has been to have him Taunt the enemies and then usually use an AoE attack Art like Aerial on or in front of his position so it wrecks everything. If things look a little too much even for him somehow, throwing on that one Craft that buffs his strength and defense usually does the trick.
I agree here. As amazing as Ys's soundtracks are, I wouldn't want LoH to be the same style all the way through. TitS is all about taking in the scenary and falling into the world that's presented for you, and its generally more leisurely soundtrack goes with that, even down the usual battle themes. I'm just pleased that now that shits starting to hit the fan, the music is reflecting the change.
FC's soundtrack is the weakest in the series by far IMHO, and SC's is one of the strongest. (3rd's is pretty rockin' as well -- I think those two are my personal favorites.)
I still don't think any of the mainline Kiseki soundtracks can really compare to Ys music, though. But SC's probably comes the closest, so you should be pretty pleased with it overall.
...Nayuta no Kiseki, though, can stand toe to toe with Ys music any day of the week. I still say that's one of the best Falcom soundtracks of the last decade. Sofreakinggood...
I agree here. As amazing as Ys's soundtracks are, I wouldn't want LoH to be the same style all the way through. TitS is all about taking in the scenary and falling into the world that's presented for you, and its generally more leisurely soundtrack goes with that, even down the usual battle themes. I'm just pleased that now that shits starting to hit the fan, the music is reflecting the change.
Well, Ys soundtracks aren't always "the same style all the way through" either -- look at Ys Seven's soundtrack, for example. I could see music like that fitting in Trails pretty well, and generally consider that to be a more well-rounded and overall well-composed soundtrack.
Nayuta no Kiseki's soundtrack, too, is a lot more varied than my three examples above may have suggested. Take a couple of the overworld themes, for example -- I love the eerie otherworldliness of these tracks, and can definitely think of places in the other Kiseki titles where tracks like this would fit beautifully.
And then you have other Falcom titles like XanaduNext and Zwei!!, both of which I personally rank among Falcom's best soundtracks of all time, and neither features much in the way of the typical Ys sound at all.
In general, I've always felt as though the Kiseki series soundtracks are good, but could be a lot better (Nayuta notwithstanding), especially when compared to other Falcom titles with atypical music stylings. There are exceptions, of course -- FC boasts some amazing tracks, like the aforementioned Silver Will -- but I find that the overall sound of FC's soundtrack marks it as one of the weaker titles in Falcom's musical lineup. The town themes, in particular, don't quite stand up to those from other Falcom games, nor even those from previous Legend of Heroes titles.
...Different strokes for different folks, though. Just figured I'd weigh in, mostly as an excuse to share more great tracks from Nayuta no Kiseki, Xanadu Next and Zwei!!.
Whatever happens, I doubt Lord Monarch's style of music would fit whole Ys soundtracks. It's peppy and upbeat, the opposite of many RTS game scores, but Monarch Monarch gets even further away from sounding like military fantasy tunes.
Star Trader sounds appropriately spacey, too. But I'm starting to prefer the X68000 soundtrack by Keishi Yonao and Yasuo Ito, which has better developed tracks overall (though I miss the adventure-mode tunes!).
I still don't think any of the mainline Kiseki soundtracks can really compare to Ys music, though. But SC's probably comes the closest, so you should be pretty pleased with it overall.
...Nayuta no Kiseki, though, can stand toe to toe with Ys music any day of the week. I still say that's one of the best Falcom soundtracks of the last decade. Sofreakinggood...
Though I don't really prefer Ys to Kiseki music in any way, I certainly wouldn't want most Ys soundtracks anywhere near a Kiseki game, they just go in way too different directions most of the time. Though sometimes they cross paths (mostly in Boss battle and Final Dungeon themes).
I don't really care for the SC soundtrack (there's Merciless Savior and Silver Will but it gets dragged down way too much by FC music) but starting with The 3rd I've certainly fallen in love with the music in this series.
I know Silver Will is popular but I haven't actually gotten far enough in the game to hear it, and I usually prefer to not hear songs in OSTs until I've heard it ingame. Although I have heard Fate of the Fairies and Fight with Assailant from SC.
And I've beaten the game...and I'm officially in the "OMG BRING TitS SECOND CHAPTER NOW!!" club. Interestingly, I predicted
That Joshua had his memories tampered with at some point when it came to his past. I also suspected that he had involvement with the Jaegers or something like that since he was so curious about Lawrence. But I didn't think he'd exit the way he did, or change his demeanor in such a way. (Talk about edgy) I also unfortunately got spoiled on Alba being more than he let on, but he still was crazy to see change.
The final boss was actually pretty tough. I actually had to retry the fight twice (I normally don't retry due to the weakening effect but after 2 boss fights right before hand I wasn't in the mood) When he
got back up after the 2nd fight, my heart dropped because the team was so wrecked. And I was NOT expecting to see Cassius drop in like that after all that implying that he was in the Empire. I figured that he'd stay MIA through the end. Not to mention Silver Will making a last triumphant return for the final "phase".
If I've not said it before, Estelle is one of my favorite gaming protagonists now. I can't wait to see more of her in the sequel.
It's now my sworn duty to try to get more rpg fans to try this game. Spreading the Gospel is really the only proper way to handle it all, heheh.
Oh, and I forgot to say, I got a little emotional (not quite tears) at the credits sequence. Jeez Falcom, you had to end it like that after the ending played the way it did.
When I played a month or two ago the remaining bugs were very minor. Was just before the HD patch which I think brought a few small things of it's own, but I only recall some minor widescreen issues ("worst" being a screen effect that only covered a 4:3 square) and a boss near the end of the game having some sound effect issues. Some/most/all of that may have been fixed by this point.
I wasn't worried about achievements, can't speak for any bugs on those.
Edit: upon rereading this post I realized how dumb I look typing "4:3 square" and not rectangle. I will leave it for people go laugh at though.
Picked this game up a few months ago but it ended up in the backlog..
Excited to finally start it today.
Hope I can finish it within a week or two before more games come out and it ends up in the backlog again..
edit: Well, about 7 hours in now and I'm just loving the character interactions. Already attached to Estelle and Joshua.
Kinda don't want the game to end now instead lol.
I've been playing this A LOT these last few days and I'm in love with the game. I almost regret that I'll soon enough finish it and won't have SC waiting for me. Or TC. Or any Kiseki games. I need to play them all now.
I've been playing this A LOT these last few days and I'm in love with the game. I almost regret that I'll soon enough finish it and won't have SC waiting for me. Or TC. Or any Kiseki games. I need to play them all now.
Only the Bandai remake series + bad localization is a downgrade. The original games, ideally the Windows 9x versions, are heavily praised by Japanese fans and whoever's had the chance to play them overseas.
Yeah, the PSP ports are not only poorly localized, but they include some gameplay changes that lead a lot of people to believe they are worse than the original PC releases.
I don't really have any interest in tracking down the PSP games, even if they were cheap, but I'd definitely get them if XSEED released them on PC. That said, I doubt it will happen, they would almost certainly go with newer Falcom games first.
Yeah, the PSP ports are not only poorly localized, but they include some gameplay changes that lead a lot of people to believe they are worse than the original PC releases.
I don't really have any interest in tracking down the PSP games, even if they were cheap, but I'd definitely get them in XSEED released them on PC. That said, I doubt it will happen, they would almost certainly go with newer Falcom games first.
Brittany and I have both expressed interest in working on these at some point, though. Because they really are damned fine games -- my hidden shame is that in many ways, I actually kind of... prefer them to the Kiseki titles.
...But I do still loves me some Kiseki, so that's more a statement of how good the Gagharv games are at their core, not anything against Kiseki.
Brittany and I have both expressed interest in working on these at some point, though. Because they really are damned fine games -- my hidden shame is that in many ways, I actually kind of... prefer them to the Kiseki titles.
...But I do still loves me some Kiseki, so that's more a statement of how good the Gagharv games are at their core, not anything against Kiseki.
Brittany and I have both expressed interest in working on these at some point, though. Because they really are damned fine games -- my hidden shame is that in many ways, I actually kind of... prefer them to the Kiseki titles.
...But I do still loves me some Kiseki, so that's more a statement of how good the Gagharv games are at their core, not anything against Kiseki.
No reason to be ashamed if you prefer the Gagharv trilogy, Tom. Both those games and the Kiseki series are equally valid takes on Legend of Heroes, and I await the day they'll be localized and (hopefully) memorable successes on PC. They might perform better on GOG if the age of their systems and audiovisuals can be marketed to that audience.
Brittany and I have both expressed interest in working on these at some point, though. Because they really are damned fine games -- my hidden shame is that in many ways, I actually kind of... prefer them to the Kiseki titles.
...But I do still loves me some Kiseki, so that's more a statement of how good the Gagharv games are at their core, not anything against Kiseki.
I'm hoping Falcom can be convinced to port their handheld games to PC at some point- but that's a decision out of your control unless you come up with some huge sales figures.
Have you considered higher pricepoints for future titles to raise more money to get more things ported? I think these games cost what $70-80 in Japan? Not saying that high , but I think you could get away with $25-30.
Tom said it should have the HD assets at release. Since they have them it wouldn't make much sense to delay putting them in (aside from the fact it's just more to QA, I suppose).
Hopefully SC's programming goes relatively smoothly. FC took a lot longer than expected, and Corpse Party is apparently causing headaches, and the longer that takes the longer it's going to take SC to release. Hopefully most of the resolutions to FC's issues will carry over nicely and speed things along... but assuming that sounds like a wonderful way to get set up for disappointment given the current trends (and the whole Kiseki Curse, XSEED should consider an exorcist).
Tom said it should have the HD assets at release. Since they have them it wouldn't make much sense to delay putting them in (aside from the fact it's just more to QA, I suppose).
Hopefully SC's programming goes relatively smoothly. FC took a lot longer than expected, and Corpse Party is apparently causing headaches, and the longer that takes the longer it's going to take SC to release. Hopefully most of the resolutions to FC's issues will carry over nicely and speed things along... but assuming that sounds like a wonderful way to get set up for disappointment given the current trends (and the whole Kiseki Curse, XSEED should consider an exorcist).
Nah, Corpse Party shouldn't hold up SC. Sara's got a few months yet before the text will be in a finished enough state to start QAing, so that game's schedule is sort of in a world all its own.
Nah, Corpse Party shouldn't hold up SC. Sara's got a few months yet before the text will be in a finished enough state to start QAing, so that game's schedule is sort of in a world all its own.
Are the HD assets in PC version of FC yet? I've been holding off on playing the game, and I figured I might as well wait until it's completely done now.
Are the HD assets in PC version of FC yet? I've been holding off on playing the game, and I figured I might as well wait until it's completely done now.
So I just brought this game on GOG.com and it is filled with tecnical issues. It crashes in the beginning and when the logo and opening scene are all split into two horizontal screens and are in purple and green.
