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"Sony Prepares for Life After Game Consoles"- Bloomberg Businessweek

Interesting little article i came across.. I dunno, could we really just be streaming everything without consoles in the near future? I still feel like this sort of reality is waaaaays away.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-12-11/sony-prepares-for-life-after-game-consoles

The company says one of its top priorities in 2014 has been buying servers and expanding its cloud networks to make sure it can reliably stream high-bandwidth games through PlayStation Now, the service it introduced over the summer. Players using PS Now don’t need to own any Sony hardware beyond a game controller or two: The service relays its 200-odd titles directly from a data center to a player’s TV, which doesn’t have to be Sony-made. “If you look at other forms of entertainment and the dramatic impact streaming has had on those, that says to us that there’s clearly a strong consumer satisfaction with the instant gratification that’s provided by streaming experiences,” says Andrew House, president of Sony Computer Entertainment. “We think that has a role to play in the future of games, as well.”

Although it may seem strange to cannibalize the hardware business while gamers are still willing to pay $400 or more for a PS4, Sony needs to push into cloud gaming sooner rather than later, says Serkan Toto, the founder of Tokyo-based consultant Kantan Games. “Cloud gaming is the future, and I have no doubt that things like PlayStation 4 and all the hardware and cables that fill up your living room will all go away,” he says.
 

bluexy

Member
Not sure this is going to work out for them. The infrastructure isn't there yet. The server hardware/software isn't there yet. Customers aren't there yet.
 
I still feel like this sort of reality is waaaaays away.

It is. Sony themselves said in much in their most recent Investor Meeting.

Paraphrased, Andrew House said that PSNow is not expected to be anything more than an extremely small part of the Playstation business for the foreseeable future, and that any investment in PSNow is an investment for the future, technology, etc.

It'll be a long while before consoles are dead.
 

Abriael

Banned
This article is midnboggingly misinformed. Funny how it gives more weight to the words of analysts than of sony itself cherry picking only what supports the false point made.

Sony (mostly house) has said on several occasions that PS Now isn't there to cannibalize consoles (at the latest investor meeting he said it's not to eat part of the cake, but to make the cake bigger, or something on that tone), and it's a small part of the business.
 
Well Sony spent a shit load of money buying Gaikai, they must have faith in the tech. Just have the streaming tech built into TV's.
 

Darklord

Banned
Yeah...except it isn't the future because most countries around the world don't have the infrastructure. Until blazing fast, uncapped internet is at like 95% coverage it won't take over.
 
It is. Sony themselves said in much in their most recent Investor Meeting.

Paraphrased, Andrew House said that PSNow is not expected to be anything more than an extremely small part of the Playstation business for the foreseeable future, and that any investment in PSNow is an investment for the future, technology, etc.

It'll be a long while before consoles are dead.

Yea, I don't think anyone reasonable can see this as something other future potential yet.
 
Full cloud based gaming? That will probably start happening after another two console cycles. You need to have the majority of your install base with a proper internet connection or else you will just lose them.
 
Until Comcast stops shitting over its customers with comparatively slow speeds with its 'go fuck yourself' monopoly I doubt this will happen.

Google Fiber save us.
 

Yoda

Member
Latency is really the issue. The data-centers would have to be very disturbed to make up for the fact that quite a few countries have shit internet infrastructure. This would drastically increase the cost but as much as GAF may not like it this is the future. If you can open the marketplace to anyone who owns a screen and an internet connection you are going to sell software on orders of magnitude higher than you can now.
 
Streaming is not the future, orbs are.

ps9orb.jpg
 

Steel

Banned
The very first thing they should do is get a better pricing model for PS Now. A subscription would work. As it stands, the prices are kinda insulting.
 

TheSpoonyBard

Neo Member
I don't get the responses on this thread. Just because cloud gaming hasn't worked out as desired in the past (because of infrastructure, consumers etc) doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. It's great that Sony sees it in the horizon and is preparing for it now.

Take a look at how we watch movies now, as an example. I was only 5-10 years ago when we still used DVDs to watch movies, and now we all basically stream or download them.
 

SMattera

Member
This shouldn't be news to anyone. Sony execs have been saying this for years.

Go read the Re/code interview last April. Shuhei Yoshida says point blank there might not be a PS5.
 

Ionic

Member
I don't get the responses on this thread. Just because cloud gaming hasn't worked out as desired in the past (because of infrastructure, consumers etc) doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. It's great that Sony sees it in the horizon and is preparing for it now.

Take a look at how we watch movies now, as an example. I was only 5-10 years ago when we still used DVDs to watch movies, and now we all basically stream or download them.

Yes, but you don't provide input while watching a movie. Games are interactive and involve immediate responses between software and user. It's strange seeing Sony pursue this and VR so readily. Streaming is basically the antithesis of VR.
 

Sloane

Banned
I don't get the responses on this thread. Just because cloud gaming hasn't worked out as desired in the past (because of infrastructure, consumers etc) doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. It's great that Sony sees it in the horizon and is preparing for it now.

Take a look at how we watch movies now, as an example. I was only 5-10 years ago when we still used DVDs to watch movies, and now we all basically stream or download them.
Yeah. Worst case scenario, they'll keep the PS4 around a couple of years longer than they want to but I doubt there'll be a PS5 -- at least, not a PS5 that does much more than streaming.
 
I live in area with faulty connection that corrupt my ps3 3 times because of system update failure (disconnected in the middle of downloading). Now, what would happen if I were to use Playstation Now?
 

jholmes

Member
Sony keeps trying to push PlayStation as a platform rather than a series of hardware, so it seems clear this is where things are going -- hence PSNow on stuff like PCs and tablets. Sony lost a bundle on the PS3 hardware and probably isn't making much on the PS4 hardware either, so why take on that risk if you're not doing anything specific with the hardware? Valve's all software and it's working out for them.
 
This shouldn't be news to anyone. Sony execs have been saying this for years.

Go read the Re/code interview last April. Shuhei Yoshida says point blank there might not be a PS5.

I think the record sales since have guaranteed that there still will be a PS5.

Its really Sonys only success story at this point. Everything else is either consistent to bad.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Even my glassfiber connection in the most densely populated country in the Westen world occasionally hiccups. Not something you want to have in the middle of a ten minute boss battle.
 
Yes, but you don't provide input while watching a movie. Games are interactive and involve immediate responses between software and user. It's strange seeing Sony pursue this and VR so readily. Streaming is basically the antithesis of VR.
Which is why they're trying both. VR to keep people buying dedicated, local consoles, and PSNow in case that's not actually going to fly and the streaming future wins out. Putting all your eggs in one basket would be crazy.
 
This was kind of obvious since they've bought Gaikai and the announcement of the Playstation Now service.

I will be happy to buy steam-keyes for their games down the road
/s ... OR AM I?
 

npa189

Member
Why does seemly everyone in Japan want consoles to die? are they so happy with phone games they just don't care? Does the box in the living room really offend them that much?
 

The Beard

Member
Why does seemly everyone in Japan want consoles to die? are they so happy with phone games they just don't care? Does the box in the living room really offend them that much?

When your apartment is the size of a phone booth, yeah it probably does.
 
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