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Core gamers to drive PC growth past PS4, Xbox One and Wii U, says OGA
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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Delusibeta
Banned
The PCGA (or the OGA as they're calling themselves) is about as useful as a lemon in a Formula 1 race.
BrokenIcarus
Member
Eh, didn't we have some charts a few months ago about the german game landscape and consoles were still a much larger force of revenue despite Germany being such a PC centric market. I'll believe it when there's an actual source.
Corpsepyre
Banned
This is good. I hope publishers take note and start taking PC seriously. Most of the times, the ports are horrendous with little to no effort put in them, and then we have the several delays as well. PC development should be front and center, and the games should be released with their console counterparts.
Convinced of this by the huge number of facts you linked to here.
Most of the time PC verison of games are great, often featuring graphics features not to be seen on consoles.
It's just that the 1 or 2 titles a year that don't do this get most of the press.
Yeah PC gaming was in a very different state last generation. It was a huge deal when the 360 got games like Oblivion because jumping into the PC last generation was nowhere near as appealing as it is today. There wasn't really a unified marketplace that people were rallying behind, and on a technological level the value of a 360 was hard to deny in comparison to what it would take to build a comparable PC.
Now you've got Steam being an easy way in, and PC tech that is already head and shoulders above the current generation consoles while still being reasonably affordable. It is nowhere near the same case this time around.
adamantypants
Member
Dat extremely linear mobile growth
and handheld decline
Because you saw all those amazing console exclusives?
Velurian
Member
Lord Gaben is pleased!
This.
Guys, we need some clarification on what the hell are they talking about in that graph. I mean, just look at 2009, handheld sales were far higher than that. Mobile even more blatantly. And, of course, software for both was far higher than that. The same goes for consoles. And they're talking about "units", not "$".
The hell are they talking about.
The hell are they talking about.
Can Crusher
Banned
Would love to know how much of it is down to the likes of games like LoL and DOTA and Heatrstone etc
F2P competitive stuff that might not exactly drive sales for other kinds of market.
F2P competitive stuff that might not exactly drive sales for other kinds of market.
You can't play the Order 1886 on PC, that's fer sure!
Pound_lb003
Member
Well, I know if I want something that's graphically amazing, over here in the UK, I cannot afford to have a PC.
And that's before I take into account people who can't set up PCs and don't know a thing about drivers etc.
I dunno, I just can't see consoles slowing down, and I feel that they directly impact PC sales.
lyrick
Member
I've given up on it, it really doesn't make any sense.
PC is only for spreadsheets anyway.
alexandros
Banned
I think the opposite will happen. PC gaming won't slow down this time and that will directly impact console game and hardware sales sooner or later.
PC's only get cheaper, and more powerful. I know last gen ALL, not some, but all of my friends were primarily console gamers at the start, and now they are all primarily PC gamers. Thanks to advances in PC hardware, dropping prices, cheap games, huge library that isn't obselete once new hardware htis, mods, new types of games, etc, etc.
And that's without any sort of major push to make PC gaming easier.
This gen is already seeing tremendous Pc gaming growth, and it's only going to get more and more impressive as this gen wears on, thanks to things like VR, Stema Machines and continued improvements in graphics, not to mention the expected growth of other PC gaming markets.
Yeah how many units of LoL and DOTA have been sold?
UnrealEck
Member
I'm sure some of those games still make a lot of money.
1st Course
Member
Graph is poorly worded by clearly its revenue. Doesn't make sense to talk units when talking about PC/Mobile, specially with stuff like F2P and MMOs accounting for good amount of money in the two sectors.
And Macros! But then again, I've sene macros with more gameplay than the Order.
Slightly more than 5 millions and quite lower than 10 millions (I suppose $?) still sounds way too low for handhelds overall in 2009 (just as an example). Console numbers seem way too low as well.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
PC gaming is that low?
ScepticMatt
Member
They were previously called PCGA, so yes. But DFC Intelligence is not.
1st Course
Member
Didn't notice that the figures are in millions. Guess figures are meant to be in billions of $ but they made a typo.
Oh man that's brutal.
lyrick
Member
in 2009 the DS sold over 11 Million consoles in the US
NPD said:
The same year the #1 and 2 PC Software spots were Sims3 & WoW:WotLK, While CoD and Nintendo Wii ____ Titles dominated the Console and Handheld arena
The chart simplay doesn't make any sense
You can understand what the graph means better in the original source. 26 million units for the pc in 2014 equals 26 billion us dollars revenue.
https://opengamingalliance.org/press/details/core-gamers-are-expected-to-drive-record-growth-for-pc-games
https://opengamingalliance.org/press/details/core-gamers-are-expected-to-drive-record-growth-for-pc-games
Referencing NPD in a largely digital market.
Come on now.
I had a hunch we were supposed to be multiplying the value by another metric. The numbers don't make sense otherwise.
Jonneh3003
Banned
If I recall pretty much everyone speculated the 3DS would be doomed, especially during it's launch months and look how that turned out. I don't think handhelds are going anywhere.
The Shogun
Banned
As someone who works on the sales side of the industry and whose career is directly affected by this stuff..
.....PC is flourishing BIG TIME right now and shows no signs of slowing down
magnumpy
Member
you're right, they're going nowhere fast.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Similarly console stuff like cod doesn't drive sales on pc either though so eh
lyrick
Member
Did you live in a different 2009?
Some fun crap about 2009
- Origin [EA] wasn't even a thing.
- Xbox 360 games on Demand was just released that August.
- You couldn't even download full scale PS3 games in 2009
- Steam still used it's old UI
Boombloxer
Member
This is about as inane as mobile replacing consoles.
Neither is capable of doing so.
The millions that play cod, Madden, FIFA, battlefield, GTA, etc aren't going to suddenly begin playing on PC because there's no reason for them to do so. Same way that someone who enjoys modding wont give it up for a console.
Growth can occur without affecting the other segments. Handheld are screwed, sure, but everyone else isn't exactly hurting either.
texhnolyze
Banned
Streaming got huge, not, humongous.
Denton
Member
What an amazing comment
Anyway, I am curious what is VR going to do with the market when it becomes viral.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I think these predictions assume that gamers will still fall for the same old grinding traps clever developers have set for them on mobile and even PC. Smart gamers know those old tricks are going to eventually stall.