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Metroid: Zero Mission and Punch Out Wii on the EU EShop this week

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Right, from the Nintendo European PR

Wii U
The Fall €9.99 / £6.99
Punch-Out!! €19.99 / £17.99
My Style Studio: Notebook €2.99 / £2.69

Wii U Virtual Console
Metroid Zero Mission €6.99 / £6.29

3DS
Shanghai Mahjong €7.99 / £7.19
3D Out Run €4.99 / £4.49

North American eShop users may begin the gnashing and wailing of the teeth over these devlopments.
 

Phazon

Member
Finally! Metroid Zero Mission ^^

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shiyrley

Banned
Do you imagine if Nintendo allowed us to play that portable game on a portable system? Like, the 3DS?

And if they didn't limit it to the people that bough it during the first months?

Wow, if only.

Nintendo why, whatever might buy it on Wii U anyway
 

Jucksalbe

Banned
Hooray for Zero Mission! And of course, get the Sega 3D Classics you haven't bought yet (except maybe Altered Beast and Ecco?)!

no 9.99 discount? oh fuck you nintendo.

Last game didn't have one either, but in this case it's a bit more annoying as you can still get Punch-Out very cheap.
 

SteveTR

Member
3D Out Run? Is that a 3D version of that one driving game from the 90s? If so, that's incredibly awesome.

Metroid: Zero Mission is cool, too.
 

King_Moc

Banned
Good as the new Punch Out is, that's too high a price for it. It's much cheaper elsewhere.

3d OutRun though...how did I not hear about that?
 

Piccoro

Member
Remember, fellow Americans, you can play Punch Out!! with this setup, and it is awesome!:

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You use your own body to dodge, Wiimote for right punches and the Nunchuk for left punches.
 

Molemitts

Member
Finally! I've been wanting to try Zero Mission for ages now!

I loved Super Metroid which I played last year, but Fusion was really disappointing. Hopefully Zero Mission will be good.
 
Bah, that initial 50% discount for Wii games and the wonderfully good value of the Hyrule Warriors and MK8 looked so much like Nintendo had started to get the hang of digital distribution and treating their customers with respect, it's just depressing to see them falling back to their old price gauging ways again so soon
 

JoeM86

Member
Do you imagine if Nintendo allowed us to play that portable game on a portable system? Like, the 3DS?

And if they didn't limit it to the people that bough it during the first months?

Wow, if only.

Nintendo why, whatever might buy it on Wii U anyway

3DS is incapable of accurately emulating GBA games as Virtual Console. Ambassador games are done through a trick to load it in DS mode, and have graphical/audio glitches.

Next handheld though...
 

Robin64

Member
It's also worth noting that 3D OutRun is more than just a 3D port of the original.

It now runs at a full 60fps, has new cars with new quirks, and even had two brand new music tracks composed for it that sound like they fit right in to the era.

Camino a Mi Amor
Cruising Line
 
Enjoy Zero Mission, EU GAF, as it's a truly amazing game. Also, don't sleep on Punch-Out!! Wii if you haven't played it!

Going by NoA's VC schedule (Super Mario Kart, DKC, Super Mario Bros. 3, etc.) we should expect Zero Mission within the next two or three months.
 

hypotc

Member
Why would they make it a standalone game and not just a "gba hack" sort of thing ?

Also GBA VC on 3DS when. It makes the most sense...

It's just one man working on it. I prefer it being a standalone game in terms of compatibility, resolution, music etc. It plays extremely well imo.
 

D_prOdigy

Member
I had never heard of The Fall but good people seem to have good things to say about it, so I'll pick that up alongside ZM.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
3D Outrun is really the game that should be getting the attention here.
 

Risgroo

Member
I guess it's time for me to finally get into 2D Metroid. I have the ambassador version of Fusion, so I'll play that this week, then I'll try out Super and Zero Mission when I get back to my Wii U for easter.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
I hope they hurry up and announce GBA VC for New3DS. No reason it can't be done.
 

shiyrley

Banned
3DS is incapable of accurately emulating GBA games as Virtual Console. Ambassador games are done through a trick to load it in DS mode, and have graphical/audio glitches.

Next handheld though...
Well, two things:
- If the PSP can emulate GBA via homebrew I'd say the 3DS can emulate GBA via a well done, official emulator
- Even if it's true that a 3DS can't emulate a GBA properly, which I find very strange, the New 3DS can.

So... yeah. :/
 

Robin64

Member
Well, two things:
- If the PSP can emulate GBA via homebrew I'd say the 3DS can emulate GBA via a well done, official emulator
- Even if it's true that a 3DS can't emulate a GBA properly, which I find very strange, the New 3DS can.

So... yeah. :/

PSP GBA emulation is nowhere near the standards that Nintendo would require for their 3DS GBA emulation.

I can't speak for the New 3DS, though, but it may have the needed oomph to pull it off. I don't know.
 

Robin64

Member
Not only that, but all the prior 3D Sega games are half price this week.

Buy them all!

Not quite all of them.

Altered Beast, Ecco, Galaxy Force, Streets of Rage, Shinobi III, Super Hang On, and Space Harrier. Sadly it misses out Sonic (the one I wanted most) and a couple of others.
 

shiyrley

Banned
PSP GBA emulation is nowhere near the standards that Nintendo would require for their 3DS GBA emulation.

I can't speak for the New 3DS, though, but it may have the needed oomph to pull it off. I don't know.
My point is that if GBA emulation on PSP via homebrew can be good, or decent, GBA emulation via an official emulator of a Nintendo console written by Nintendo for a Nintendo console should be perfect. And in the New 3DS, even more lol.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
My point is that if GBA emulation on PSP via homebrew can be good, or decent, GBA emulation via an official emulator of a Nintendo console written by Nintendo for a Nintendo console should be perfect. And in the New 3DS, even more lol.

The 3DS isn't able to do it to the standard Nintendo require, if it were it would have happened years ago.

They should definitely be releasing GBA titles on N3DS though.
 

Robin64

Member
My point is that if GBA emulation on PSP via homebrew can be good, or decent, GBA emulation via an official emulator of a Nintendo console written by Nintendo for a Nintendo console should be perfect. And in the New 3DS, even more lol.

I don't think you're getting the difference between "decent" emulation (which I personally don't think GBA on PSP is), and accurate emulation. It's huge. Homebrew emulators are exceedingly hacky.

This is why people can run SNES emulators on really bad PCs, but to emulate SNES accurately requires over 3GHz of processing power.

It doesn't take much raw power to play Nintendo or SNES games on a modern PC; emulators could do it in the 1990s with a mere 25MHz of processing power. But emulating those old consoles accurately—well, that's another challenge entirely; accurate emulators may need up to 3GHz of power to faithfully recreate aging tech. In this piece we'll take a look at why accuracy is so important for emulators and why it's so hard to achieve.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/
 

Golnei

Member
PSP GBA emulation is nowhere near the standards that Nintendo would require for their 3DS GBA emulation.

I can't speak for the New 3DS, though, but it may have the needed oomph to pull it off. I don't know.

They don't even have to emulate it - while just providing image dumps for use with the hardware BC, as with Ambassador titles, might lack the features of the Virtual Console, I don't see how it'd be a significant ideological departure from making Wii games digitally available on Wii U. GBA and DS games really should have been digitally available on 3DS from the outset...
 

shiyrley

Banned
I don't think you're getting the difference between "decent" emulation (which I personally don't think GBA on PSP is), and accurate emulation. It's huge. Homebrew emulators are exceedingly hacky.

This is why people can run SNES emulators on really bad PCs, but to emulate SNES accurately requires over 3GHz of processing power.



http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/
I see your point. But if Nintendo really followed that rule, N64 virtual console on Wii hould have never happened. Hell, even SNES neither, since "it requires over 3 GHz of processing power".

I see your point, it's true, but Nintendo doesn't need absolutely accurate emulation to release a game as long as the game just runs flawless.

Majora's Mask crashed randomly on VC though. A lot less than the GC version but it does :(
 

Robin64

Member
They don't even have to emulate it - while just providing image dumps for use with the hardware BC, as with Ambassador titles, might lack the features of the Virtual Console, I don't see how it'd be a significant ideological departure from making Wii games digitally available on Wii U. GBA and DS games really should have been digitally available on 3DS from the outset...

Now this I can agree with, simply because of how they're handing Wii games on Wii U. They've now shown they're willing to allow dumps to run natively, so the excuse for no GBA on 3DS in the way Ambassadors have it holds slightly less water now.
 
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