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Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

lowhighkang_LHK said:
So I've seen a few videos of the game. And they changed a lot of things from lost soul placements, to key placements, and even some visual/auditory changes like the shotgun sounds a bit different. It's get a more deeper echo to it, more bass to it if that make sense.

Yeah the shotgun sound is changed.

Where's the god damn changelog?

CrimsonCrescendo · Mar 10, 2015

Sayad · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
Heavily. Nerfs to demon dodge as well. Like that gif that everyone posts with the SSS from the Trinity Smash, it does not work anymore.

It's stated in the interview I posted as well.

How big is the damage nerf after DD is? Wont be able to do this now?

Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

Sayad said:
How big is the damage nerf after DD is? Wont be able to do this now?

Nerf to DD is considerable. I don't know what difficulty mode that is on but there is no way something like that should be possible on DMD/GMD modes.

Edit: People are playing this game on their consoles.

Where are the reviews? Where is the changelog? CAPCOM/NT WHERE YOU AT???

CrimsonCrescendo · Mar 10, 2015

The Return of · Mar 10, 2015

Hardcore mode doesn't get rid of color enemies completely? I know you can use all weapons now but it doesn't have hitsun. I'm just curious if hardcore mode let's all weapons have hit stun on them

Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

The Return of said:
Hardcore mode doesn't get rid of color enemies completely? I know you can use all weapons now but it doesn't have hitsun. I'm just curious if hardcore mode let's all weapons have hit stun on them

You don't have hit stun against off color enemies no matter what mode you use.

ZeroX03 · Mar 10, 2015

Looks like we aren't getting this on PSN for another twelve hours or so.

Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

ZeroX03 said:
Looks like we aren't getting this on PSN for another twelve hours or so.

LMFAO!!!!!

Sony am fucking up big time.

lowhighkang_LHK · Mar 10, 2015

Slaythe · Mar 10, 2015

ZeroX03 said:
Looks like we aren't getting this on PSN for another twelve hours or so.

The cool part is

Oh nevermind they're complete shit, thanks Sony.

Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

Yeah looks like reviews are popping in.

I don't need to read a single review though.

User 479360 · Mar 10, 2015

I really enjoyed DmC when it first launched, but ended up selling it. Now, I'm tempted to pick this Definitive Edition up for a week via rental or something, so as to play through it again.

The changes sound like good ones, and it'd be a fun game to revisit.

I probably won't have time until next month, though.

direct_quote · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
LMFAO!!!!!

Sony am fucking up big time.

Could be Capcom fuck up as well (or both?), I remember this happening with USF4 release, and some guy swearing off the game because of it...lol.

BumblebeeCody · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
You don't have hit stun against off color enemies no matter what mode you use.

But no combo fun

the_batman · Mar 10, 2015

ZeroX03 said:
Looks like we aren't getting this on PSN for another twelve hours or so.

i don't even see it on PSN, like no ad or game page or anything.

User 479360 · Mar 10, 2015

Here's another very positive review:

We Got This Covered - 9/10

Dahbomb · Mar 10, 2015

Eh, someone should make a review thread to put all these reviews in. I think that's the proper protocol for this, they probably don't want OTs cluttered with people just posting reviews.

Also helps spreading awareness of the game.

ZeroX03 · Mar 10, 2015

the_batman said:
i don't even see it on PSN, like no ad or game page or anything.

Probably won't go live until the main store update.

lowhighkang_LHK · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
Eh, someone should make a review thread to put all these reviews in. I think that's the proper protocol for this, they probably don't want OTs cluttered with people just posting reviews.

Also helps spreading awareness of the game.

I'll make a quick and dirty one. Is it a bannable offense if I put up the score and the link, or do I have to go through each of those fucking reviews and select choice quotes. Man fuck that shit I'm lazy. I'll make the thread but I'm just doing scores and article links.

ezekial45 · Mar 10, 2015

I uploaded a couple of my own gameplay videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRyoxbm78AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PbADE6Lig

BumblebeeCody · Mar 10, 2015

advanced turbo+hardcore+must style combo for Dante
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JuLW9H9_fg
I got the game yesterday, played through it one sitting and....yeah. It's great.

Bad:
I kinda wanted a bit more out if the combat. If you've seen the combos from the previous version you'll be getting the same here. Same move set

Kind if annoyed by colour enemies. Since they don't have hitstun, you can't juggle them. The game goes back to it's older versions' slow pace since you resort to using red weapons on all colour enemies just to get them out the way. I thought we were going to have the ability to combo them(you were so close).

Kablooey is still just as uninteresting as before

Good:
Love lock-on
Love the change to stinger
The game looks incredible in 1080p with a consistent 60FPS
Turbo mode is the best new addition
Love the added difficulty challenges
Hardcore mode makes for a more frantic and creative way of dealing with enemies
Like the new skins
Trickster dash is hype!
All the Vergil changes and additions are much welcome!

ezekial45 said:
I uploaded a couple of my own gameplay videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRyoxbm78AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PbADE6Lig

Nice! No lock-on?

the_batman · Mar 10, 2015

ezekial45 said:
I uploaded a couple of my own gameplay videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRyoxbm78AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PbADE6Lig

i'm guessing they're still processing, that's why there's no 1080p 60fps option? ;D

Sayad · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
Nerf to DD is considerable. I don't know what difficulty mode that is on but there is no way something like that should be possible on DMD/GMD modes.

That was on the hardest difficulty available first time through the game.

BumblebeeCody said:
Kind if annoyed by colour enemies. Since they don't have hitstun, you can't juggle them. The game goes back to it's older versions' slow pace since you resort to using red weapons on all colour enemies just to get them out the way. I thought we were going to have the ability to combo them(you were so close).

Can't you turn them off now or something? I thought I've read that in one of the change logs!

Alfredo · Mar 10, 2015

I was a strong opponent of DmC since its announcement. When it finally came out, I thought it looked like a good game, but a poor DMC game. I refused to buy or play it in principle. I didn't want to send a message to Capcom that I was okay with this being the new direction for Devil May Cry.

However, I am totally on-board for buying the Definitive Edition. It shows they actually DO listen to fans, and this version looks like they put in a lot of work to satisfy fans of the old DMC games. Manual lock-on? Helllll yeah.

I know a lot of people have probably backed off on this term, but it really does feel like, "Apology Edition," and I actually like that.

So I will proudly purchase DMC

E and DMC4:SE and look forward to what will be happening to the series in the future.

...it still disappoints me that the press can't drop the "Dante didn't have white hair" thing, focusing on "HEY, THERE'S A DMC1 COSTUME NOW!" Are there any media outlets that actually touch upon the actual changes of substance to the game? I really wanna get a look at that Capcom changelog.

ZeroX03 · Mar 10, 2015

$40 sitting in my account waiting for this to release. Hopefully it's awake before I leave for work in the morning.

Robot Pants · Mar 10, 2015

So does this DD version make this game on par with 3 and 4?

Or is it still... DmC?

i guess it's not out yet so I'll have to wait. Duh.

The Silver · Mar 10, 2015

I see that is says it changed some stuff to the final boss, what are those changes? Does it not interrupt you constantly with a cutscene anymore?

Sir Ilpalazzo · Mar 10, 2015

The Silver said:
I see that is says it changed some stuff to the final boss, what are those changes? Does it not interrupt you constantly with a cutscene anymore?

I know one change is that he has a proper Yamato attack string now.

Scaramanger · Mar 10, 2015

the_batman said:
i don't even see it on PSN, like no ad or game page or anything.

So that made my mind up, just purchased it on XB1 instead of PS4. Getting tired of waiting for stuff from Sony...... Installing now

Uklott · Mar 10, 2015

You can skip all cutscenes, right?

Might double dip, changes look fantastic, but i really don't care about the story. Dante's Anyway.

Matriox · Mar 10, 2015

As someone who didn't really get into Devil May Cry games when I was younger I have just recently completed Bayonetta 1 and 2, the gameplay is the same right? How does it stack up if someone doesn't mind answering, I was looking to nab this after work. Also, if this has been answered before then I'll take a link to that

Thanks!

Sir Ilpalazzo · Mar 10, 2015

Matriox said:
As someone who didn't really get into Devil May Cry games when I was younger I have just recently completed Bayonetta 1 and 2, the gameplay is the same right? How does it stack up if someone doesn't mind answering, I was looking to nab this after work. Also, if this has been answered before then I'll take a link to that Thanks!

Well, they're the same genre, but they don't really play the same. DMC games have much less emphasis on spectacle than Bayonetta, and Bayonetta is a lot more streamlined than the DMC games in many ways - although the same is true of DmC.

I think the original DmC wasn't comparable to either Bayonetta at all, but it seems like the update should do a lot for it.

noomi · Mar 10, 2015

So I've played the original devil may cry many years ago... I think this was on PS2...

haven't played once since and I don't really remember anything about the series, but this release looks very interesting.

Maybe some of you can enlighten me... DmC is a hack and slash type of game right... kind of like God of War? If so... I will probably be buying it since I'm missing that in my life right now

Slaythe · Mar 10, 2015

noomi said:
So I've played the original devil may cry many years ago... I think this was on PS2...

haven't played once since and I don't really remember anything about the series, but this release looks very interesting.

Maybe some of you can enlighten me... DmC is a hack and slash type of game right... kind of like God of War? If so... I will probably be buying it since I'm missing that in my life right now

It's WAY better than God of War. But yeah it's the same type of game.

Remember to activate turbo mode and hardcore mode right away on first playthrough (they are modifiers, don't be scared by the name, it just makes the game more enjoyable).

Gbraga · Mar 10, 2015

Dahbomb said:
You don't have hit stun against off color enemies no matter what mode you use.

Honestly, this is bugging me out so much that if there's some cool game on sale for $40 by the time PSN updates, I might pass on DmC.

lowhighkang_LHK · Mar 10, 2015

Matriox said:
As someone who didn't really get into Devil May Cry games when I was younger I have just recently completed Bayonetta 1 and 2, the gameplay is the same right? How does it stack up if someone doesn't mind answering, I was looking to nab this after work. Also, if this has been answered before then I'll take a link to that Thanks!

Yes, DmC is a top tier action game. And will probably be the best action game there is until Bayonetta 3 (which won't happen) comes out, or until Devil May Cry 5.

MuddyDonut · Mar 10, 2015

Not really a any competition which is incredibly sad.

GuardianE · Mar 10, 2015

lowhighkang_LHK said:
Yes, DmC is a top tier action game. And will probably be the best action game there is until Bayonetta 3 (which won't happen) comes out, or until Devil May Cry 5.

MuddyDonut said:
Not really a any competition which is incredibly sad.

For this gen.

BadWolf · Mar 10, 2015

Matriox said:
As someone who didn't really get into Devil May Cry games when I was younger I have just recently completed Bayonetta 1 and 2, the gameplay is the same right? How does it stack up if someone doesn't mind answering, I was looking to nab this after work. Also, if this has been answered before then I'll take a link to that Thanks!

If you have access to a PS3/360 then I would suggest you start the series off on a high note with the original series and then play the reboot.

DMC3 in particular is simply amazing and DMC4 probably has the deepest combat system ever.

GuardianE · Mar 10, 2015

Matriox said:
As someone who didn't really get into Devil May Cry games when I was younger I have just recently completed Bayonetta 1 and 2, the gameplay is the same right? How does it stack up if someone doesn't mind answering, I was looking to nab this after work. Also, if this has been answered before then I'll take a link to that Thanks!

I'd strongly suggest getting into the original series, personally. The HD Collection is super cheap right now and a perfect entrypoint. DMC3, in particular, holds up to the combat giants of today and has a good story. It recently was in the top 25 games of that entire generation.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005VBVQDI/?tag=neogaf0e-20

jackissocool · Mar 10, 2015

So do you guys think Ninja Theory has finally come into their own as action game developers? Are you interested in future projects from them?

GuardianE · Mar 10, 2015

jackissocool said:
So do you guys think Ninja Theory has finally come into their own as action game developers? Are you interested in future projects from them?

I think that Capcom taught them a lot about combat design, and they've cultivated themselves to be one of the better Western combat developers as a result. I keep an eye on their projects, just like I do all action titles, but I've yet to find any of them to be interesting yet.

Hawaii Jeff · Mar 10, 2015

Gold_Loot said:
Can't wait to get into Lilith's club, and turn this game way up.

Yeah that's one of my favorite levels in gaming!

TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared · Mar 10, 2015

Not in stock here till thursday >.<

MuddyDonut · Mar 10, 2015

jackissocool said:
So do you guys think Ninja Theory has finally come into their own as action game developers? Are you interested in future projects from them?

Definitely, I feel like they learned a shit ton from this and will probably make their games much more playable than previous titles.

Wakka212 · Mar 10, 2015

jackissocool said:
So do you guys think Ninja Theory has finally come into their own as action game developers? Are you interested in future projects from them?

I think this entire DmC project coupled with their work on Heavenly Sword has definitely given them enough experience under the belt. They already had an appealing and distinct style in the realms of graphics, art direction, and character creation.

What I've seen of Hellblade really excites me; the combat is far more intimate and seems to combine quick combo-centric action with more strategic elements of traditional fighting games like Tekken or SF.

BadWolf · Mar 10, 2015

jackissocool said:
So do you guys think Ninja Theory has finally come into their own as action game developers? Are you interested in future projects from them?

We will see come Hellblade.

jackissocool · Mar 10, 2015

GuardianE said:
I think that Capcom taught them a lot about combat design, and they've cultivated themselves to be one of the better Western combat developers as a result. I keep an eye on their projects, just like I do all action titles, but I've yet to find any of them to be interesting yet.

Not even Hellblade?

MuddyDonut said:
Definitely, I feel like they learned a shit ton from this and will probably make their games much more playable than previous titles.

Wakka212 said:
I think this entire DmC project coupled with their work on Heavenly Sword has definitely given them enough experience under the belt. They already had an appealing and distinct style in the realms of graphics, art direction, and character creation.

What I've seen of Hellblade really excites me; the combat is far more intimate and seems to combine quick combo-centric action with more strategic elements of traditional fighting games like Tekken or SF.

It's very interesting to watch a developer improve and change their reputation. Especially a larger independent studio, which are very rare nowadays. I really respect that they've managed to take criticism and cater to hardcore gamers without ever losing their integrity. Instead, they've gotten closer to what they really want to be and kept their distinctive identity..

BadWolf said:
We will see come Hellblade.

I have faith.

GuardianE · Mar 10, 2015

jackissocool said:
Not even Hellblade?

I've been keeping an eye on it, but my feelings towards it are tepid until we see more.

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