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Microsoft FY2015 Q3: 1.6M 360+XBO Shipped

rrc1594

Member
Kinda off topic, but I found this on another forum just now

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Is there a thread about this? Is it BS?

"Source": http://imgur.com/7UIwAY7

This mean nothing
 

Marlenus

Member
Interesting, I wonder if TSMC can't then others won't either as they have gone to the 14nm process instead. Does it maybe only affect the high end?

To me I just think 20nm is not up to it for any reasonably high performance part. If AMD or Nvidia could make 20nm chips, even for laptop GPUs, they would as it would give them a power usage advantage in a segment that is power sensitive and that would give them a competitive edge. That neither company has done it suggests the node is not capable, even for the smallest dies.

That is not to say it is impossible but at this stage it seems like both Sony and MS would be better off waiting until the 14nm nodes start producing and then we might see a slim revision from both manufacturers.
 

Dynomutt

Member
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.

Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.

offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.

Just hold your tongue man. Not worth it.
 
When is the Windows 10 update coming for Xbox One? I could see sales increasing quite a bit in America if you can use Windows apps, especially emulators.

That being said, I'm still not sure if it would be enough to compete against a $299 PS4 though, which I'm confident that it will happen around August or September.
 
Do we know that the PS4 isn't also down YOY? They are down slightly in NPD, but I don't know if they are making up the difference world wide.

We won't know really until next week with Sonys report. However, if they are down YoY it's not a massive thing as they're still the same price as they were from the start, so revenue won't be hit bad like we see here.
 
But I said I didn't have insider info or secrets.
fine though I'll just post it here. Gimme some time.

lol if your info can be verified by Bish, you should post it. If not, dont mention it again, cause unverifiable info will get you banned and as a junior is a perm
 

Javin98

Banned
So those two console warriors are gone? It's amazing how they both kept the thread active for a few hours. When I was browsing the thread at dawn, it was page #8 and suddenly this evening it exploded to #22.
 

scrambles

Neo Member
lol if your info can be verified by Bish, you should post it. If not, dont mention it again, cause unverifiable info will get you banned and as a junior is a perm

All the info I have is publicly available. It's not like I'm claimin insider info.
no more posts on this though cuz I feel like this is offtopic
 

Snorlocs

Member
While there is no doubt that MS has cleaned up their mess ,they are stuck to endure that stigma throughout the entire generation ,regardless of what they can do .

For example PS3 and Sony also never fully got rid of the stigma of their early days .

People still vividly remember things like "599 us Dollar " and " get two jobs " years after Sony turned things around .

It is their black mark to bear .

Yes. I agree with this also. It will keep them on their toes and make them make better games (and they do deserve the kicking). It shouldn't be that they aren't even allowed to try though. As long as they make good games shouldn't that be enough? As gamers shouldn't we put the games first and not the company? If you follow some people they should stop making games altogether because how dare they even TRY. That's stupid to me.
 

Slair

Member
I don't know something as far as time frame or potentiality. but I'm very confident that they are going to abandon the Xbox console. Well, maybe not abandon. If it makes them money they will keep it, but when speaking about promotion and market share push, that's going to disappear. They have other solutions to the problem whileaintaining a presence in the living room.
I'm pretty confident I know what their e3 "never been done before" surprise is as well. And yes, it's pretty big

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Feorax

Member
I don't for a second believe that MS abandoning Xbox is something that will happen anytime soon, but it will be interesting to see where MS goes from here.

The strategy from MS seems to have been quite obvious from the beginning, when they were happy for the OG Xbox to lose money and have a lower install base so that the name would be more recognizable when its successor came around. Whilst the 360 didn't lose huge amounts of money like the the original did, I would imagine that MS had high hopes that XB1 would be both profitable and a big seller so as to get their software at the center of as many people's living rooms as possible.

The numbers we're seeing so far suggest that not only has that not happened, but that it's looking more and more likely that they won't get anywhere near that for the rest of this generation.

So what do MS do now? Do they go long term and start again, learning from hindsight? Or do they just play it one generation at a time and see where they end up 5 or 6 years from now?

Either way, it's not ideal.
 

scrambles

Neo Member
I love you gaf.
Anyway, I contacted a mod, so I'll wait for the go ahead.
But yeah, since this thread is about financials it's off-topic.

But, to contribute a little bit, Amy Hood just said that Q42015 (apr-jun) is going to show increased revenues in comparison to Q42014.
EDIT: in the xbox division (gaming and devices)
 

Elandyll

Banned
All the info I have is publicly available. It's not like I'm claimin insider info.
no more posts on this though cuz I feel like this is offtopic

If you are clear that this is just a guess, and based on various elements you "think" you have deduced based on some publicly available info, might as well post your theory imo. At best, it could be a clever find, and at worst it'll give people a good chuckle.

At some point previously you have really tiptoed the line of possibly being an Insider, but as long as you make it clear it's guesswork (educated or not), it should be fine.
 
All the info I have is publicly available. It's not like I'm claimin insider info.
no more posts on this though cuz I feel like this is offtopic

If it's purely speculation on your part why not just share it? I'm trying to figure out what you're suggesting the big E3 surprise could be, but with what you were hinting at earlier I'm lost.
 

Dosia

Member
I love you gaf.
Anyway, I contacted a mod, so I'll wait for the go ahead.
But yeah, since this thread is about financials it's off-topic.

But, to contribute a little bit, Amy Hood just said that Q42015 (apr-jun) is going to show increased revenues in comparison to Q42014.
EDIT: in the xbox division (gaming and devices)

You dont need mod permission to post speculation. This isnt North Korea.
 
I love you gaf.
Anyway, I contacted a mod, so I'll wait for the go ahead.
But yeah, since this thread is about financials it's off-topic.

But, to contribute a little bit, Amy Hood just said that Q42015 (apr-jun) is going to show increased revenues in comparison to Q42014.
EDIT: in the xbox division (gaming and devices)

If its speculation just post it. No ones gonna hit you or anything. You may or may not have picked up on something.
 

Intrigue

Banned
But, to contribute a little bit, Amy Hood just said that Q42015 (apr-jun) is going to show increased revenues in comparison to Q42014.
EDIT: in the xbox division (gaming and devices)

Shouldn't be too hard, since they barely had any sales during that time frame.
 

samar11

Member
I don't think MS lost marketing deal for COD, they probably didn't want to renew it any more because they want to push halo 5 which is releasing close to COD.

I don't think sony would of grabbed it either, they are going to be going hard on the marketing partnership with BF.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
All the info I have is publicly available. It's not like I'm claimin insider info.
no more posts on this though cuz I feel like this is offtopic

Dude.... dont say you're confident you know stuff and that you know stuff about E3 because that's not cool when it turns out you're just guessing.

If its a speculative post/info then label it as such.
 

Swass

Member
If it was 2013 and "the reveal" just happened I would totally get it. Wasn't a fan of their ideas either. But thats 2 years behind us. People got fired over it. Changes were made, new directions taken. The head did exit the ass as far as I am concerned.
As you said Sony learned a lot from the PS3 mistakes and PS4 is really nice. So it would be logical that MS will copy that process with their next system.

I would agree with your statement if the kicking had stopped once Ms got the point. At this point everyone is kicking them while they are on the ground dying.

You do realise that it took Sony nearly an entire generation, cost them nearly half their user base and cost them an insane amount of funds to get back in the good graces of the community?

So why should all be forgiven for Microsoft 2 years removed from them trying to do things far more heinous than anything Sony tried to pull?
 

Elandyll

Banned
I don't think MS lost marketing deal for COD, they probably didn't want to renew it any more because they want to push halo 5 which is releasing close to COD.

I don't think sony would of grabbed it either, they are going to be going hard on the marketing partnership with BF.

My guess is that if CoD really doesn't have an exclu deal with MS anymore, they are more likely to go platform Agnostic. But I guess we'll see, the rumor is that Sony indeed picked up the tab (and I can't imagine why with already Battlefront and possibly MGS V in the fall). :shrug:
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
You do realise that it took Sony nearly an entire generation, cost them nearly half their user base and cost them an insane amount of funds to get back in the good graces of the community?

So why should all be forgiven for Microsoft 2 years removed from them trying to do things far more heinous than anything Sony tried to pull?

Oh hey, a junior with common sense. Keep it up.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.

Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.

offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.

1) Junior members can't post threads for exactly the reason that they don't post dumb threads.

2) Don't ask someone else to circumvent this forum rule for you, that is a good way to lose posting privileges, and for the person starting the thread on your behalf to lose thread starting privileges.

3) Don't derail threads with faux insider information. Either pick an appropriate thread to post it in, or contact a mod if you are unsure (which I see you have now done).

This should be the last post on this subject this thread from anyone. Feel free to PM with any questions.
 
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