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Experience Inc. Community Thread: "Dungeons? Yeah we got Dungeons."

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Operation Abyss will be PSTV-compatible, that info is on the cover.

Thats good they will have it squared away from the start. Since in Japan initially there was issues with it not working correctly with the PSV TV even though it was supposed to be compatible. They had to wait for the publisher to clear the patch release is what I remember from my conversation with Chikami-san. They got it fixed pretty fast and everything was fine after that.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Thats good they will have it squared away from the start. Since in Japan initially there was issues with it not working correctly with the PSV TV even though it was supposed to be compatible. They had to wait for the publisher to clear the patch release is what I remember from my conversation with Chikami-san. They got it fixed pretty fast and everything was fine after that.

How did you get to talk with him?
 

Quixzlizx

Member
I hope that Namco Bandai doesn't conclude that Ray Gigant isn't a big enough property to be worth localizing. I always get nervous when smaller IPs are attached to larger publishers.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I hope that Namco Bandai doesn't conclude that Ray Gigant isn't a big enough property to be worth localizing. I always get nervous when smaller IPs are attached to larger publishers.

Not really seeing how they have been better with localizing things than in the past and they would not have gone to Exp Inc to make a new game if they did not see the potential behind the name considering how Demon Gaze did worldwide. Basically produce a smaller scale title which can pull in revenue if localized.

Bandai Namco has been a lot more aggressive too with Asia, so could see them doing an Asian release also before a US one. Which seems to be the case with them in general.

So think we can all feel fairly positive about the chances of it being localized.

Though the question is, will they do digital only for the West or not. Seeing how SAO:HF kept selling regardless of folks complaining on the internet about no physical copies basically told them that the "voices" on the internet do not mean too much when the numbers show otherwise lol. So with that being said, to cut down on costs for localization they might got a digital only route much to the dismay of fans that like to collect physical copies...
 

Quixzlizx

Member
Not really seeing how they have been better with localizing things than in the past and they would not have gone to Exp Inc to make a new game if they did not see the potential behind the name considering how Demon Gaze did worldwide. Basically produce a smaller scale title which can pull in revenue if localized.

Bandai Namco has been a lot more aggressive too with Asia, so could see them doing an Asian release also before a US one. Which seems to be the case with them in general.

So think we can all feel fairly positive about the chances of it being localized.

Though the question is, will they do digital only for the West or not. Seeing how SAO:HF kept selling regardless of folks complaining on the internet about no physical copies basically told them that the "voices" on the internet do not mean too much when the numbers show otherwise lol. So with that being said, to cut down on costs for localization they might got a digital only route much to the dismay of fans that like to collect physical copies...

I'd rather have a physical copy, but I'm fine with buying it digitally if that's the only version. I don't want the localization to be half-assed like it was with SAO, though.
 

autoduelist

Member
It's not weird at all. Exp obviously thought making the characters less realistic would sell more copies, and they're not wrong. That said, I love Stranger's art style. That's a much better balance.

Stranger has incredible art, and I'm not one that usually cares about such things. I sort of suffer through the stuff in DG because I like the genre, but I very much prefer the darker, more mature themes w/o any sniffing. It's not that I'm offended by stuff, I'm not, it's just that I find it destroys the dungeon-y mood.

I am extremely hopeful Stranger comes over next.

No because this is not a thread to support someones elses project. I left that type of content out on purpose and have zero intention to include it in the OT itself.

People are more likely to go looking for illegal downloads rather than actually trying to get their hands on the actual product itself, which the original copies are harder to find, just to play the "fan translation".

Wouldn't more people playing the demo be a good thing, increasing demand for future legit localizations? Because the alternative isn't those same people going out to find 'harder to find' copies of non-localized games they won't be able to read/play -- instead, the vast majority just will go play something else entirely and quickly forget about it, versus maybe playing the demo and falling in love.
 
Thanks man, it took a bit, since Im not exactly the type that follows up with the history and whatnots as Im more about game design than company history lol.

I still need to update some other stuff including the Xbox One project that is still on paper, but planned for the future. It was the one they had announced during one of their Cross News broadcasts which is supposed to be another title in the Students of Round series though the settings will be with Samurai and such. So that should be something interesting.
It's very nice, I hope that with this new renascence of the genre here in the west, folks go back and experience more of their titles. Also, the more members we have on here, the better.
 

CrovaxPSO

Member
Some post-game stuff from Stranger of Sword City

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And a dumb skeleton from Operation Babel that definitely did not startle me when I came through the door

 

Derkon

Member
Well done OT! Picked up Demon Gaze during the Golden Week sale and have been really enjoying it; enough to throw down the preorder for Operation Abyss. Just really like what I've read/seen from Experience Inc.

Those screenshots of Stranger of Sword City are terrific! hoping we get it soon enough :D
 

Dorarnae

Member
will probably plat Labyrinth cross blood infinity ultimate soon, just need to kill a few boss and get the lvl 80 Muramasa and get rank 6 material (funny that I have the lvl 90 one but not 80).

and then I'll try to make my team as Op or more than the version before lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvck3mRZRjI
I need to beat this with the item that increase their lvl hehe.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Well done OT! Picked up Demon Gaze during the Golden Week sale and have been really enjoying it; enough to throw down the preorder for Operation Abyss. Just really like what I've read/seen from Experience Inc.

Those screenshots of Stranger of Sword City are terrific! hoping we get it soon enough :D

It would be like localizing Persona 4 Dancing and Arena and not Persona 5. NIS can't be that crazy.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
It would be like localizing Persona 4 Dancing and Arena and not Persona 5. NIS can't be that crazy.

If anything, Operation Abyss belongs to their "mainline" IP.

Maybe you were trying to make a snarky remark about relative quality, although have you even played Operation Abyss yet?
 

cj_iwakura

Member
If anything, Operation Abyss belongs to their "mainline" IP.

Maybe you were trying to make a snarky remark about relative quality, although have you even played Operation Abyss yet?

I'm just saying that this looks like their best game. I like Demon Gaze and Xth, but Stranger looks infinitely better.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I'd rather have a physical copy, but I'm fine with buying it digitally if that's the only version. I don't want the localization to be half-assed like it was with SAO, though.

Hopefully it should be ok since they improved the quality of Lost Song after the massive fuckup they did internally with keeping the Asian script for the most part. Plus they came out and officially made a statement about their next game would not have such horrible localization, which is pretty rare for large companies to do. Since yeah the SAO:HF was a mess.

Well done OT! Picked up Demon Gaze during the Golden Week sale and have been really enjoying it; enough to throw down the preorder for Operation Abyss. Just really like what I've read/seen from Experience Inc.

Those screenshots of Stranger of Sword City are terrific! hoping we get it soon enough :D

Thanks! Im real curious to see how Stranger sells in the West, though the artwork most def seems like something that would catch the attention of more people. That and hopefully they will be able to keep dual audio. But since its a newer title Id imagine so. Similar to how Demon Gaze was able to as it was another title which was built from the ground up.

Some gameplay footage had recorded from the 360 version. Im pretty sure I have vita footage recorded too just did not upload it. Didnt bother as its basically the exact same thing just with the sony button prompts replacing the xbox ones.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
For the Operation Babel Disgaea 5 character portrait DLC the following 6 were decided on after the community voting finished.

「侍」「賢者」「重騎士」「アーチャー」「魔法使い(女)」「盗賊」

Samurai, Sage, Heavy Knight, Archer, Magic User (Female), Thief

Release date of this DLC is yet to be announced.

For those who want to see what the other choices were check the link below.
http://kuronyu.jp/vote/
 

Shizuka

Member
For the Operation Babel Disgaea 5 character portrait DLC the following 6 were decided on after the community voting finished.

「侍」「賢者」「重騎士」「アーチャー」「魔法使い(女)」「盗賊」

Samurai, Sage, Heavy Knight, Archer, Magic User (Female), Thief

Release date of this DLC is yet to be announced.

For those who want to see what the other choices were check the link below.
http://kuronyu.jp/vote/

With NIS and 5pb working together, Operation Babel is all but confirmed for localization.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
With NIS and 5pb working together, Operation Babel is all but confirmed for localization.

MAGES is the one that controls things. 5pb just lives on in name apparently, but the company itself is MAGES after the merger. So its Exp Inc dealing with MAGES along with NISA.

I guess its like the Koei Tecmo situation, where Tecmo basically is Koei now, but they kept the name for brand recognition.
 

Shizuka

Member
MAGES is the one that controls things. 5pb just lives on in name apparently, but the company itself is MAGES after the merger. So its Exp Inc dealing with MAGES along with NISA.

I guess its like the Koei Tecmo situation, where Tecmo basically is Koei now, but they kept the name for brand recognition.

I know that, it's still the same thing though and you got what I said.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Stranger's demo is seriously breath-taking, but it runs like garbage on my CPU.

Intro kept lagging, and the cursor is hard-locked to keep moving upward, like it's the touchpad or something.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I know that, it's still the same thing though and you got what I said.

Sorry I dont read minds. :) You wrote 5pb and not MAGES.

Stranger's demo is seriously breath-taking, but it runs like garbage on my CPU.

Intro kept lagging, and the cursor is hard-locked to keep moving upward, like it's the touchpad or something.

I think the only issue I recall mentioned by Crovax when he had tried it was something to do with the installation I think. But did not mention anything in regards to performance. There was less than a handful of people who tried the demo I think. Im pretty sure Dorarnae did also?

Odd that it seems to not run well on your system. Wonder why that would be.
 

CrovaxPSO

Member
The issue we had was just not being able to enter English characters for names so we had to enable Japanese input. Performance was fine for me.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The issue we had was just not being able to enter English characters for names so we had to enable Japanese input. Performance was fine for me.

Its always odd when there are titles that do not allow for English character input. I know in Japan there were some MMOs like that.

Had done a quick search and google didnt come back with any useful hits without digging too deep in regards to the demo having performance issues.
 

Dorarnae

Member
The issue we had was just not being able to enter English characters for names so we had to enable Japanese input. Performance was fine for me.

yep, I had no issue with performance(my pc is like 7-8 year old now). actually I am pretty sure this game run better than student of round with fraps, or maybe it's because I was in window mode...
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Its stuff like this which is why am never too big on PC gaming as its always a crap shoot with if something will work or not on ones rig regardless of system spec reqs. lol

Its like for example the updated re-release of students of round. Dorarnae has it in his collection picture, for whatever reason that one will not install correctly on my PC or laptop, where the original game did no problem.

Didnt seem to be a faulty disc too as everything was reading ok?

Since I already had the original title just said fuck it and didnt bother to go looking further into the issue. lol
 

Tohsaka

Member
Hopefully it should be ok since they improved the quality of Lost Song after the massive fuckup they did internally with keeping the Asian script for the most part. Plus they came out and officially made a statement about their next game would not have such horrible localization, which is pretty rare for large companies to do. Since yeah the SAO:HF was a mess.

Asian English version of Lost Song is due out this week, so we'll see if they kept their word or not. I don't think there have been any English screenshots yet, so I'll wait until my copy comes or someone else gets theirs first.
 
After how pleasant a surprise Demon Gaze was, I'm fully onboard for more Experience Inc. games. Got Operation Abyss LE preordered for months. Though I do wonder what that delay was all about. April to June seems pretty long.
 

Dorarnae

Member
Its stuff like this which is why am never too big on PC gaming as its always a crap shoot with if something will work or not on ones rig regardless of system spec reqs. lol

Its like for example the updated re-release of students of round. Dorarnae has it in his collection picture, for whatever reason that one will not install correctly on my PC or laptop, where the original game did no problem.

Didnt seem to be a faulty disc too as everything was reading ok?

Since I already had the original title just said fuck it and didnt bother to go looking further into the issue. lol

yeah I had problem with one game too. I can run Generation xth Code Hazard and Code Breaker full screen but Code Realize only work in window mode.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
yeah I had problem with one game too. I can run Generation xth Code Hazard and Code Breaker full screen but Code Realize only work in window mode.

I remember my laptop had issues with one of the 3 games I cant remember which though. Its when I had to go overseas for a long while so loaded them onto the system back then, but couldnt do much with one of the games due to some sort of weird issue do not remember what it was. Cross Blood worked perfectly fine though when I got that one after getting back.

Asian English version of Lost Song is due out this week, so we'll see if they kept their word or not. I don't think there have been any English screenshots yet, so I'll wait until my copy comes or someone else gets theirs first.

Yeah thats right it comes out this month. Should be a fun trip for those who are fans of the series, as they did a good job with the events in the game. Plus cool how you can use anyone you want once with your 3 character party.

After how pleasant a surprise Demon Gaze was, I'm fully onboard for more Experience Inc. games. Got Operation Abyss LE preordered for months. Though I do wonder what that delay was all about. April to June seems pretty long.

Yeah no idea about that one as I dont really follow what goes on with NISA. Wonder if it had anything to do with like Bloodborne having been released the end of March so pretty much all coverage would have been on that making it harder to get sites to play and promote the game with reviews good or bad? Unfortunate for those who were expecting it to be out in April though.
 

Arzehn

Member
Don't have too much experience with DRPGs. Looking forward to Stranger of Sword City and Ray Gigant. The artstyle for those looks more up my alley. Willing to give Operation Abyss a try though. Is there anything remarkable about that series? Story any good?
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Don't have too much experience with DRPGs. Looking forward to Stranger of Sword City and Ray Gigant. The artstyle for those looks more up my alley. Willing to give Operation Abyss a try though. Is there anything remarkable about that series? Story any good?

It's a breath of fresh air. You're a group of students in a cyberpunk-ish world sent out to go hunt monsters in modern day environments. The Gen Xth demo gives you a taste of it.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Don't have too much experience with DRPGs. Looking forward to Stranger of Sword City and Ray Gigant. The artstyle for those looks more up my alley. Willing to give Operation Abyss a try though. Is there anything remarkable about that series? Story any good?

Story is ok for Operation Abyss, though since its based off of their original earlier titles, its not as filled out as their other titles that had an original script done for them. But it should be enjoyable enough as is as long as you are not expecting something super complex.

Some gameplay mechanics may feel a little more dated, but that also has to do with being based off of their first titles. Its why some people who were fans of Demon Gaze were not as happy with Abyss is what Ive been told. Due to the game styles being different with the design. Since Demon Gaze was built from the ground up where as Abyss was built off of existing code of their first series once again.

Reason why am saying first series so much, is that is the real neck with the title as it is their first game that they developed as Exp Inc so things were a little different from their more modern titles.

Though as a DRPG game and something that is not too hardcore and can be enjoyed, the average user should have a good time with it hopefully.

If you have any specific like questions do feel free to ask and will help answer them to give you a better idea of what to expect.
 

Shengar

Member
After how pleasant a surprise Demon Gaze was, I'm fully onboard for more Experience Inc. games. Got Operation Abyss LE preordered for months. Though I do wonder what that delay was all about. April to June seems pretty long.
Packed March schedule most likely. So packed that people might used their April gaming budget and time for those games instead, not to mention that some releases overlap with NISA. Should've been May, but The Witcher 3 and Splatoon might make June better tims fod release.
 

Shizuka

Member
Packed March schedule most likely. So packed that people might used their April gaming budget and time for those games instead, not to mention that some releases overlap with NISA. Should've been May, but The Witcher 3 and Splatoon might make June better tims fod release.

There were no retail releases for the Vita in April, I thought it was a perfect month as a Vita owner. June though, we have other games.
 

CrovaxPSO

Member
For what it's worth, I'd pick Operation Abyss over Demon Gaze any day. Demon Gaze is great, but there's something special about Operation Abyss. It's totally subjective of course, but the setting alone is much more interesting to me. The cast of characters as well. I think I said in the Operation Babel OT that I might think that because it's a four game series instead of a single title. And while some of the mechanics, especially related to items, are more complicated, they're by no means difficult to figure out and give you more ways to gear out your squads.
 

Shizuka

Member
For what it's worth, I'd pick Operation Abyss over Demon Gaze any day. Demon Gaze is great, but there's something special about Operation Abyss. It's totally subjective of course, but the setting alone is much more interesting to me. The cast of characters as well. I think I said in the Operation Babel OT that I might think that because it's a four game series instead of a single title. And while some of the mechanics, especially related to items, are more complicated, they're by no means difficult to figure out and give you more ways to gear out your squads.

Could you share more nice screenshots of Abyss, in anticipation for next month?
 

CrovaxPSO

Member
Here's a few. It looks like I didn't take many screenshots until later in the game and those ones can be pretty spoilery. I'll check and see if there are some I just didn't transfer to my PC already.

 

CrovaxPSO

Member
Some I just transferred over. I particularly like the one with the big ads for other Experience games, one of which is from the same series as the game its in (muh canon, muh lore).


Meant to edit my previous post but I'm an idiot and double posted.
 

CrovaxPSO

Member
The Xth squad has quite a foul mouth, don't they?

The woman in black isn't an Xth member, but I think there were a few other English "shits" in the game, haha. I wonder how they'll localize the language switch. There's also one character in particular I'm really interested to see how they localize.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The woman in black isn't an Xth member, but I think there were a few other English "shits" in the game, haha. I wonder how they'll localize the language switch. There's also one character in particular I'm really interested to see how they localize.

The hero the Xth squad deserves. Best character ever. Seriously wonder how his dub / dialog will turn out.
 
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