Disagree. The more money it makes on KS, the more money Sony is likely to invest in the project. Again, the KS is there only to judge interest. More money, more interest, bigger and better game.
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Sony is officially helping with funding and development with Shenmue 3
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Disagree. The more money it makes on KS, the more money Sony is likely to invest in the project. Again, the KS is there only to judge interest. More money, more interest, bigger and better game.
Newtype-001
Member
We get the sequel to one of the most demanded games of all time and yall wanna play this childish game man goddamn.
Uno Venova
Banned
What door is this going to open? Is it going to make more developers of dead franchises try to get funded by giving the game in return for backing it? If so the fans of those games will happily pay the money for it? if they feel like this is one of the few chances they have.
Or do people think publishers are going to ask for 5 million dollars to get Assasin's Creed or Elder Scroll's funded? Because I don't expect those games to ever get near their goals. Is it taking a lot of responsibility from Sony, because I was under the impression these games cost tens of millions to make and around 3 million doesn't seem to take any significant burden of of Sony.
Or do people think publishers are going to ask for 5 million dollars to get Assasin's Creed or Elder Scroll's funded? Because I don't expect those games to ever get near their goals. Is it taking a lot of responsibility from Sony, because I was under the impression these games cost tens of millions to make and around 3 million doesn't seem to take any significant burden of of Sony.
Palette Swap
Member
So you're asking for the cancellation of a campaign you never put a cent in?
I don't know about other backers, but I'd rather you stopped speaking for me.
I was happy with the premise of the KS when I chose to pledge this morning and I'm still happy with it. If anything, it sounds much more viable now than twelve hours ago.
dragonzdogma
Member
I am not,
it's just so salty in here I am sure you understand.
I have that face right now
Don't give anyone ideas...
blankempathy
Member
Preorder dlc? season passes? They just got people to pay over 2 million dollars during e3 in less then a day based off some nostalgia. Thats great guys. Hope you get the game you want.
sechsterangriff
Member
People here acting like this was Activision kickstarting the next Call of Duty to gauge interest... You need to get some perspective.
We're talking about a new game of a 14 year old hiatus, "dead", blamed countless times for SEGA's downfall, almost industry joke status IP.
The fans have actually been asking for a kickstarter since it became a thing. This game most likely wouldn't have been possible in any other way. Not with just crowdfunding, not with little chance to find a publisher.
If putting my money upfront is the price to pay to revive a beloved IP that no publisher wants to touch with a stick, so be it.
I just know that my 13 year old self just shed some tears of joy with this announcement.
We're talking about a new game of a 14 year old hiatus, "dead", blamed countless times for SEGA's downfall, almost industry joke status IP.
The fans have actually been asking for a kickstarter since it became a thing. This game most likely wouldn't have been possible in any other way. Not with just crowdfunding, not with little chance to find a publisher.
If putting my money upfront is the price to pay to revive a beloved IP that no publisher wants to touch with a stick, so be it.
I just know that my 13 year old self just shed some tears of joy with this announcement.
Mendax
Member
I'm sure they're asking sega right now. What sega does is always a mystery these days though
Funniest thing about all of the people complaining I bet either A. Havent even backed the game or B.werent planning on getting it anyway. Or C. Are salty now it has no chance of being released on anything but pc and PS4. But I knoe If it were me getting that game for 30 bucks is a damn steal and now with Sony backing it means the game has a chance at having an even greater experience.
Acquiescence
Member
I can scarcely believe that we're finally FINALLY getting a full-fledged Shenmue 3 at some point in the future. If Sony is funding the development then it's not going to be a watered-down, cheap product like I initially feared could be a possibility, but rather an actual proper follow-up that fans have been dreaming of for 14 years.
This past day has been surreal. I'm still waiting to wake up.
This past day has been surreal. I'm still waiting to wake up.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
People think Sony should pay for development of an IP that is a proven commerical failure, rather than use crowdfunding the guage interest and make their reasons for investing in an IP like that make sense on paper.
Kickstarter isn't ro "fund" development, it's to kick start projects. Get them off the ground. The Shenmue Kickstart did just that.
It started out on Dreamcast...
unknownstranger
Member
My take on this is Sony will deal with localization and a retail version.
Yeah I'm totally not a fan of publishers wanting to make sure there is enough interest there for games fans want.
Oh wait, it gets us games we want and isn't hurting anybody. I'm totally a fan of it.
He's just speaking up for all those poor souls that have happily supported the KS and don't realize they are actually getting ripped off by putting down $30 for the game.
the kickstarter says PC/PS4, no mention of Xbox
do you really think there was ever a scenario where they suddenly added "oh yeah Xbox is totes coming too! we just forgot"
ultimately the sneaky part is saying 'it's totally THEIR thing and we have nothing to do with it' when that's clearly not true to anyone paying attention or knowing how these things work, then announce that of course they are after the thing is succesfull
"yeah who cares Shenmue is here" blabla. Glad we're getting it - still think it's scummy and sets a weird precedent.
I'm not going to lie, that's extremely scummy. If you're going to do something like that, you should make it clear at the forefront - and cap it once you've reached your goal. Didn't they go on stage and say something along the lines of "We have nothing to do with this Kickstarter, but we wanted to give it some exposure?"
I'm still excited to be receiving Shenmue, but this is definitely a publisher/kickstarter dynamic that I'm not 100% in favor of. Dat Shenmue tho!
I'm still excited to be receiving Shenmue, but this is definitely a publisher/kickstarter dynamic that I'm not 100% in favor of. Dat Shenmue tho!
Zeyphersan
Banned
I never once claimed to speak for anyone but myself
Sony takes a lot of risks with IPs lately.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The announcement of Shenmue 3 gave me chills, insanity; however, it's the lack of transparency in relation to the funding of the title that left a sour taste in my mouth.
They needed to explain once they launched the Kickstarter how the funds would be appropriated and if ever $2 million was reached, well much like Bloodstained, a third-party publisher would complete the funding process.
They didn't do the above, and I think that's the point many want to share. To be honest, I'd love more Kickstarters where old properties are brought back to life, but like I mentioned, things needed to be much clearer and detailed on the production and publishing front.
They needed to explain once they launched the Kickstarter how the funds would be appropriated and if ever $2 million was reached, well much like Bloodstained, a third-party publisher would complete the funding process.
They didn't do the above, and I think that's the point many want to share. To be honest, I'd love more Kickstarters where old properties are brought back to life, but like I mentioned, things needed to be much clearer and detailed on the production and publishing front.
MrCunningham
Member
Shenmue III using Unreal Engine 4 on PC co-funded by Sony... that is the strangest thing ever.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Kinda shitty of them not to admit there was some sort of connection up front, but that's the world we live in...
amstradcpc
Member
spend less?.The more games are sold at 29$ the less are at 59$.So in fact they spend more.
If you love Shenmue and Yu Suzuki then you should be happy.
GarciaHotspur
Member
People who are funding the game on Kickstarter are BUYING the game, they are not giving money to Sony for nothing, i can't see the issue here.
Wasn't this common practice? Were people expecting the game to be made on 2 million and Yu Suzuki's life savings? Corporate backers are not obligated to disclose themselves or the nature of their funding. Everybody is still getting what they paid for. Sony could've just as easily gotten away with not revealing this at all. Much ado about nothing imo
Unknown One
Member
It was stated the funding was for the PC/PS4 versions of Shenmue 3. 2 million was super low for this kind of game. It was rather obvious that it was to gauge interest.
And it is amazing that it is happening this way.
:lol that's a nice way to spin it. There's interest, the goal has been met, why not stop it now and just open a pre-order page? Because they want the free money whales give them
Nyteshade517
Member
yeah, about that...Dreamcast
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He was going to do the Kickstarter regardless. And you should feel bad for him, the game was a financial failure on BOTH platforms it was on.
Both due to one tanking, and the other with a small install base and non Eastern game demographics.
I thought it was smart. You want that game made, you fans want it made, prove it.
And we did. Plus I say keep it open for the whole month, since we can get a $29 game that we know is 100% coming now.
Please point me to the Xbox version of Shenmue. Thanks.
We will, and the game too! And you know what's also grand? YOU can enjoy the game too because of all of us. No need to thank. Just enjoy.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Fucking awesome. Even with the Kickstarter I had some doubts that it would ever come out, but this pretty much seals it.
Now excuse me. I'm going to look for sailors in bars.
Now excuse me. I'm going to look for sailors in bars.
but whyy would you want less people to be able to play the game
KillerSloth
Banned
You'd have to be amazingly dense to not see there was.....
Mendax
Member
they "would make sure it will happen". That can also mean that they provide a 2 year long supply of hardware and drink and food. But I think funds are more likely
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
AAA games that are selling millions upon millions back into development exceeding their budget is not going to turn to KS to fund half of their game. Huge publishers like EA nor Activision will even try something like that as they know their status and reputation, plus the licensing from the original creators are totally something they have to consider. It's never going to happen like this again.
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