Plague Doctor
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This is a shameless a day one, full bundle, PS4 buy for me. Guilty pleasures are guilty.
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Rock Band 4 announced for PS4 and Xbox One
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I thought they said that XB1 would need a special dongle (ala PS3) in order to use the old instruments.
The RB twitter feed seems to indicate that backwards compatibility for old instruments was still "in progress" and they wouldn't open up preorders for the standalone game (and dongle?) until it was ready.
They seriously need to figure this shit out.
The hardcore fans that used it are also among the biggest DLC purchasers.
FlashFlooder
Member
I just wish they'd throw up the preorder on PSN so I can cash in on the Spend $100 get $15 promo!!!
hollams
Gold Member
I read on a Q and A that the midi kit will not be supported at launch. They are an indie studio and don't have the resources at this time for everything and this would have to wait until after launch.
Very, very, very, disappointing.
SolidusDave
Member
Germany, so it's 300... Also I might have to move out of country early next year so that's also a factor to consider haha
I may have a warped perception of the value though. I joined the Rock Band train by buying a year old RB2 (half price) and the RB1 hardware-only band kit which was like 40 (new) back then.
Digital only? Eh? The only bundles here in the UK are the 'Band in a box' with RB4 on disc or the guitar with RB4 on disc
Really want to get it digitally but I also need a new guitar.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
If they really do get Prince I'll be extremely impressed.
Also Purple Rain dlc when.
Also Purple Rain dlc when.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Earlier in the thread, Nick posted this:
So TLDR: Wireless instruments are a lock for both systems. They can't confirm wired yet.
Yeah. Seems like they're targeting filthy casuals and are forgetting about the whales who kept them above water during their later years.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Is there a special marketing deal with Microsoft again? I saw it briefly in their e3 sizzle reel and the Xbox twitter was talking about them I think yesterday.
You would be incorrect. Firstly, the bundle pictures on ALL the websites you can pre-order from clearly show a game case rather than a digital download card so I don't know why you would assume this especially since they are already having to have a physical box for the instruments. Why not just put a disc based game in there? Secondly, below is an interview with one of the guys from Harmonix who confirm both a digital and physical version of the game.
http://www.rockbandaide.com/21107/e3-interviewish-with-aaron-trites-harmonix-community-manager/
They really, really need to make a digital version bundle available.
It says they are looking into it, but if they don't that really sucks because it likely means if you wanted the digital version, you probably can't get any new instruments this year.
At the very least make a digital bundle with the digital game and legacy adapter.
Yeah, I agree. I was just replying to the guy saying the game was digital only which it is definitely NOT. If you just want the game though, you will at least have the option of digital or physical at launch. If you are like me, you are hoping for a "bundle" that includes the "low-cost" XBox360->XBox One dongle and a digital copy of the game. I'm sure that is a pipe-dream though as that scenario is probably pretty rare...
Also, at least if you wanted digital and new instruments you could just buy the full bundle, sell the physical game unopened and then just buy the game digitally as that will be available day-one standalone.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
If Practice mode isn't even in then idk what to think.
Impeccable
Member
Everything they are seemingly stripping are things I never once touched in all my hundreds of hours playing.
I'm guessing statistically I am in the majority if it is a worthwhile cut.
That would be a pain to do, as I'm not sure if there would be much audience for the standalone disc copy. I'd probably be taking a loss too.
I just hope the legacy adapter is out in time in reasonable quantities to satisfy demand. I'm nervous about that.
I'm really surprised they didn't run a Kickstarter. I would have definately thrown a few hundred their way.
According to the RockBandAide E3 interview with Aaron Trites
Rock Band 4 Hardware
What hardware purchase options will be available at launch?
Guitar and disc bundle
Band in a Box bundle
Xbox One Legacy Adapter
For those who bought PAX East guitars, those will be delivered by October 6th
Standalone disc
Digital download
What hardware will not be available at launch?
Standalone guitar
Standalone drums
Standalone mic
Any bundle featuring a digital download code for the game, rather than a disc[This isn’t a locked-in option, but they are looking at it]
What happened to my preorder colors?
“The plan for preorder colors had been to give certain colors to certain retailers. Unfortunately, the problem that popped up was one of stock. Giving certain places certain colors constrained sales, both limiting how many large retailers could get, and what would happen in other areas of the world like Europe who don’t have those retailers. Factories would also have to be slower when it came time to swap back over to black, so in the interest of having instruments out there, we had to delay alternate colors. They aren’t cancelled, MadCatz is very excited about different-looking instruments, but we had to decide between giving people the ‘wrong’ color and people not getting anything.”
Where is the Xbox One Legacy Adapter?
“It is still being worked on. We have it set up for our own instruments, but it’s a surprisingly complicated process, we’ve been having to locate the people who coded the 360 chipset a decade ago. A lot of the features and design are still upcoming, we may even trip into some unexpected usage of them.”
“Like plain controllers since they have colored buttons?”
“Maybe! Even our guys working on it shrug when we ask about future compatibility. It’s a very unique piece of hardware, we’re all seeing where it goes.”
“According to many people, wired instruments will not work, is the Adapter going to have USB ports?”
“The design is not finalized at this time.”
What hardware will not be available at launch?
Standalone guitar
Standalone drums
Standalone mic
Any bundle featuring a digital download code for the game, rather than a disc[This isn’t a locked-in option, but they are looking at it]
Will Practice Mode be in the game?
“Maybe. Most of the use came from the hardcore players working towards FCs. Again, game’s still in development, we’ll see as we go.”
Rock Band 4 Hardware
What hardware purchase options will be available at launch?
Guitar and disc bundle
Band in a Box bundle
Xbox One Legacy Adapter
For those who bought PAX East guitars, those will be delivered by October 6th
Standalone disc
Digital download
What hardware will not be available at launch?
Standalone guitar
Standalone drums
Standalone mic
Any bundle featuring a digital download code for the game, rather than a disc[This isn’t a locked-in option, but they are looking at it]
What happened to my preorder colors?
“The plan for preorder colors had been to give certain colors to certain retailers. Unfortunately, the problem that popped up was one of stock. Giving certain places certain colors constrained sales, both limiting how many large retailers could get, and what would happen in other areas of the world like Europe who don’t have those retailers. Factories would also have to be slower when it came time to swap back over to black, so in the interest of having instruments out there, we had to delay alternate colors. They aren’t cancelled, MadCatz is very excited about different-looking instruments, but we had to decide between giving people the ‘wrong’ color and people not getting anything.”
Where is the Xbox One Legacy Adapter?
“It is still being worked on. We have it set up for our own instruments, but it’s a surprisingly complicated process, we’ve been having to locate the people who coded the 360 chipset a decade ago. A lot of the features and design are still upcoming, we may even trip into some unexpected usage of them.”
“Like plain controllers since they have colored buttons?”
“Maybe! Even our guys working on it shrug when we ask about future compatibility. It’s a very unique piece of hardware, we’re all seeing where it goes.”
“According to many people, wired instruments will not work, is the Adapter going to have USB ports?”
“The design is not finalized at this time.”
What hardware will not be available at launch?
Standalone guitar
Standalone drums
Standalone mic
Any bundle featuring a digital download code for the game, rather than a disc[This isn’t a locked-in option, but they are looking at it]
Will Practice Mode be in the game?
“Maybe. Most of the use came from the hardcore players working towards FCs. Again, game’s still in development, we’ll see as we go.”
Out of all the news/interviews that has come out of E3, this interview is probably the best source of information. Nobody else has asked these questions yet on Reddit/NeoGAF/RB Forums/C3 these are things that people are asking. Even though he answered some with maybe's it's nice to know someone has at least asked these things.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The reason for possible exclusion of practice mode is literally one of the stupidest excuses I've ever heard.
It's been in every game since Guitar Hero 2 ffs. How the hell would I have ever passed TTFaF without a practice mode?
It's been in every game since Guitar Hero 2 ffs. How the hell would I have ever passed TTFaF without a practice mode?
GuitarAtomik
Member
Really hope the Band in the Box w/ Digital code happens. I plan on getting this digitally.
Same, Rockband is one of those perfect games for it
AngelOFDeath
Member
Same here, ION or MPA support for sure.
Is there anyone willing to help these guys for free!?
I'm on the same wavelength as you.
nicholasbrutal
Epic Games PR Manager
Hey, I don't know where we are getting the "there will be no digital copy" or "there will be no standalone software" for sale, but that's inaccurate. We'll have more info to share on that soon.
Wired All Wrong
Member
Yeah, this is a huge thing for me. I'm already going to buy an Xbox One for this game since I have spent so much money on DLC, but I'm not also going to spend another $250 or so on a drum set again, if that would even be an option again. I certainly won't go back to the stock RB drums after using IONs. The lack of an online was a bummer, but no ION support is pretty much a deal breaker. There's been no confirmation either way so I'm still hopeful something will be worked out. If not, I still have all my DLC and customs to scratch that RB itch.
waitwhat42
Member
Shit I'm not sure how I feel about this, can this thing be turned off?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I have a few guitars still, but the tilt sensors and upstrum on all but one are iffy. I am tempted to just get the guitar bundle and the legacy adapter later for when I want to bust out my drums. I already have three microphones, so no need for a band bundle.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Yep.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Please don't cut practice mode. That's ridiculous.
Echoing the other real-drum-set users, I'm not buying a new fake drum set when I have my real drum set and midi adapter right here, still usable in RB3. I've got well over 800 songs on RB1-3, it's not worth it for me to upgrade if I can't use my drums. The loss of keyboard was disappointing. The loss of ion/midi support is a dealbreaker for me.
Rain City Gamer
Member
I'm in this boat. 800 songs on 360 and my Ion Drumset. No way I could go back. I am hopeful for it to plug and play on Xbox One or at the very least allow me to buy a new Xbox One brain for it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
For whatever reason, Amazon.ca and Bestbuy.ca aren't putting up the standalone version for sale.
bestbuy.ca does have the ps4 standalone version up at least. Can't seem to find the xbox one version.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...spx?path=a7ac5a25dc595acb3a53768e83237c18en02
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Oh yeah, I asked specifically about the Xbox standalone over twitter (because I wanted to order it for the discount) and they said they were "working on it".
My assumption is that there is no standalone Xbox SKU because you need to have the adapter to use old instruments? But that's just an educated guess.
Shift Breaker
Member
They surely won't. Cutting out online play is one thing but removing practice mode will pretty much remove the competitive edge completely. Even the PS2 version of Rock Band had practice mode. It was severely cut down, sure, but it still existed.
Although removing it would pretty much guarantee that we don't get a repeat of the XMB glitch from the PS3 version of RB3. So there is that.
Man I miss playing Rock Band, but I was on Xbox last gen and I'm on PS4 this gen.
250.00 is steep for the bundle (well, it's 200 after the Best Buy discount) but I feel like I'd be better off tracking down used ps3 instruments for a cheaper "buy in."
But I'm just...eh. I wish the guitar worked across both this and the new guitar hero and then I'd just play both of those games, no band. The days of getting friends together for Rock Band are long gone.
250.00 is steep for the bundle (well, it's 200 after the Best Buy discount) but I feel like I'd be better off tracking down used ps3 instruments for a cheaper "buy in."
But I'm just...eh. I wish the guitar worked across both this and the new guitar hero and then I'd just play both of those games, no band. The days of getting friends together for Rock Band are long gone.
I had some fun with this at E3 and turned it into a souvenir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eJSuehlVW0
Got a question which I'm hoping one of you will know the answer to:
I have the limited edition bundle of The Beatles Rock Band on 360 but since I only have 2 games left for that system I'm looking to get rid of it and then rebuy a copy of TBRB for my PS3 instead. I'd also like to get Rock Band 4 (PS4) later this year too, I'm just not sure what to do about instruments.
I understand that we should be able to use the old instruments in RB4, so if I managed to find a PS3 bundle of The Beatles RB to replace my 360 one I should be able to use those instruments with Rock Band 4 on PS4 too, Yes?
What about the other way around with the new RB4 instruments? If I got a RB4 bundle instead could I use those with TBRB?
TLDR - If I want to play The Beatles Rock Band (PS3) and Rock Band 4 (PS4) with 1 set of instruments, which do I buy?
I have the limited edition bundle of The Beatles Rock Band on 360 but since I only have 2 games left for that system I'm looking to get rid of it and then rebuy a copy of TBRB for my PS3 instead. I'd also like to get Rock Band 4 (PS4) later this year too, I'm just not sure what to do about instruments.
I understand that we should be able to use the old instruments in RB4, so if I managed to find a PS3 bundle of The Beatles RB to replace my 360 one I should be able to use those instruments with Rock Band 4 on PS4 too, Yes?
What about the other way around with the new RB4 instruments? If I got a RB4 bundle instead could I use those with TBRB?
TLDR - If I want to play The Beatles Rock Band (PS3) and Rock Band 4 (PS4) with 1 set of instruments, which do I buy?
Got a question which I'm hoping one of you will know the answer to:
I have the limited edition bundle of The Beatles Rock Band on 360 but since I only have 2 games left for that system I'm looking to get rid of it and then rebuy a copy of TBRB for my PS3 instead. I'd also like to get Rock Band 4 (PS4) later this year too, I'm just not sure what to do about instruments.
I understand that we should be able to use the old instruments in RB4, so if I managed to find a PS3 bundle of The Beatles RB to replace my 360 one I should be able to use those instruments with Rock Band 4 on PS4 too, Yes?
What about the other way around with the new RB4 instruments? If I got a RB4 bundle instead could I use those with TBRB?
TLDR - If I want to play The Beatles Rock Band (PS3) and Rock Band 4 (PS4) with 1 set of instruments, which do I buy?
Someone asked this exact thing while I was at the Rockband 4 booth on Tuesday, and the Madcatz guy said old instruments will work on both old and new systems, while the new instruments will only work on the new systems. And PS3 instruments will only work on PS4, and Xbox 360 instruments will only work on Xbox One, no crossing platforms.
I just realized with the new freestyle tech, maybe they'll let you guitar freestyle at the same time you drums freestyle in freestyle mode?
Wait, there's no online play?